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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:48 pm

I understand nag but it seemed like the fact that we know each other was fueling that feeling you had thats all
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby dazza2008 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:48 pm

I also do not think anyone has accused you guys of cheating. I brought up that you were friends in real life to show that you might not be connected due to being scum but because you are RL friends. I did not mean anything bad by bringing it up.

Ghostly I don't really get how you say I have not been very active or posting nothing a value or whatever it was you said. You say my recent posts are 1 liners. What is wrong with that? If the point I wish to make can be made with 1 sentence or question why would I post more. Would you prefer me to waffle a load of shite to add with my point?
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:52 pm

@daz - he was saying that the thing wrong with that was that they had no substance
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby ghostly447 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:05 pm

pmchugh wrote:Toys out the pram here tonight.

ghostly447 wrote:Pmc if you had strong logic that I felt I had not yet disproven in that case I would have brought it back. Truth be told I do not see anything you brought to the fable against me and clever that we did not separately or together disprove or bring against you


Why did you never get back to me on this:

ghostly447 wrote:I am going back to bed and will try to respond to this again when I wake up. I cannot keep trying to answer things on mafia while I am this tired. Sorry PMC, you got me here, it was in fact the pills talking to me and it was the last thing I did before a 4 hour nap.


Well if I am being completely honest, then I guess I should inform you that I forgot about it. And when I looked back, I did see it, and quite honestly ignored it. I saw no point answering the same bull crap used against me for a 1000th time. Like I said, it was the exact same crap I had already defended myself against a hundred times before except I was drowsy while answering it 1 time.

ghostly447 wrote:I believe the cop (should there be one) is going to investigate me or pmc. Tracker should consider watching us, and so should watcher. For now, I await SG7's claim, and when I am not so busy will try to re-defend myself against PMC which I failed to effectively do yesterday on my meds :P.


Also the second post sounds like you telling the framer who to be on.

I requested we be watched/tracked because you and I had gone at it that day and so I figure it may benefit us both to be watched/tracked because I thought 1 of us may die and 1 of us may be the killer. Simples.

everywhere116 wrote:I don't think very many people knew that the two of you knew each other in RL. I certainly didn't. I picked out the two of you because you seemed to agree with everything that each other said despite the majority (and, now that we know, the fact of shield being scum) disagreeing with you. If you're placing undue trust upon ghostly because of your real life relationship, the only thing you need to do is step back for a moment. He isn't your friend in this thread. He is another player. He could be scum, he could be against you, or he could simply be wrong. Simply following whatever another player is doing is not how the game is played.


Also this is exactly why I was going to bring forward a case as well. Never knew you guys were RL friends.

I do believe we had already said it. But either way if you are going to play the "He is either connected or hes a noob" card, let me play it as well. Lynch me, and therefore you immediately clear him by the logic of this post and the ones to follow regarding it (I cant remember where exactly it was said, but someone said that he was following me). Actually, you dont even NEED to lynch me by that logic. He wouldnt have to follow me if he were mafia and I was town. And he wouldnt have to follow me if we were both mafia. If you lynch me, you therefore prove my thinking. Simples, and everybody gets what they want (apparently, me dead!)
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby ghostly447 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:06 pm

dazza2008 wrote:I also do not think anyone has accused you guys of cheating. I brought up that you were friends in real life to show that you might not be connected due to being scum but because you are RL friends. I did not mean anything bad by bringing it up.

Ghostly I don't really get how you say I have not been very active or posting nothing a value or whatever it was you said. You say my recent posts are 1 liners. What is wrong with that? If the point I wish to make can be made with 1 sentence or question why would I post more. Would you prefer me to waffle a load of shite to add with my point?


Daz, I am saying that your posts have no substance when they are one liners. You have like, 4 1 liners, and then 1 post of substance on the 19th.

Sorry for double post everyone.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby dazza2008 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:17 pm

ghostly447 wrote:
dazza2008 wrote:I also do not think anyone has accused you guys of cheating. I brought up that you were friends in real life to show that you might not be connected due to being scum but because you are RL friends. I did not mean anything bad by bringing it up.

Ghostly I don't really get how you say I have not been very active or posting nothing a value or whatever it was you said. You say my recent posts are 1 liners. What is wrong with that? If the point I wish to make can be made with 1 sentence or question why would I post more. Would you prefer me to waffle a load of shite to add with my point?


Daz, I am saying that your posts have no substance when they are one liners. You have like, 4 1 liners, and then 1 post of substance on the 19th.

Sorry for double post everyone.


Which ones have no substance then?
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby ghostly447 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:27 pm

dazza2008 wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
dazza2008 wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:Sorry for the confusion daz I wasnt saying your scum im saying that merely connecting people cause they have the same views is bull shit ...im just proving my point


Cheers. I disagree though. Often it is the only way to catch scum. What if the night actions give is no useful information? We need something to go on and people defending a confimed scumbag is something worth following up.

I agree that just connecting people is bullshit but this case is that you are connected AND sg7 was scum.


well thats something I partially agree on ...i only agreed with ghostly cause the stuff he said made sense...i dont think I once said "ya sg7 I agree with you" and if i did its caude i believed he was town and im also sure I didn't vote for him... my point is that your saying im connected to him through other players


You could be right. I will read back through.


Yep yep, thats great and all, but did you here when dazza came back and posted from reading back through? You didnt either? Oh, so its not just me!

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Some7hingCLEVER wrote:Not defending him (cause we all know what happened last time) did you ever think that if he does explain it may ruin the game for us?


I can't see at all what it can be though. I am also tempted to just lynch him.


Trying to speed a lynch up by providing yet another pathetic 1 liner of NO SUBSTANCE.

dazza2008 wrote:
drunkmonkey wrote:I'd like to hear Rodion's "update" before we rush to anything.


Me too. That is why I have not voted.


Tons of substance here guys

dazza2008 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:
nagerous wrote:Well I have no evidence to the contrary as to what ghostly has claimed.

Neither do I, with the information I have at least. Think we should get him to post his list?


I think he should post it.


Seriously?

I will copy and paste the last 5 then.

dazza2008 wrote:
drunkmonkey wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:The numbers Mason...WHAT DO THEY MEAN!!!!!


I had not considered the placement of the numbers. It was established that the scum were able to talk before sending their lists, and thus would probably pick different numbers. Probably, because it was suggest that they could then have two of their members pick the same number to throw off people who believed that the scum would follow a unique-number pattern.....It's very WIFOMy, to say the least.


black ops...nice ;)
Anyway I believe that ghostly was trying to leave the game as he may have said something to hinder other games as he said
It did seem fishy at first but now that he came back and explained it I do believe it


Yes, we all understand why he left. The level of buddying between you two is getting uncomfortable.


I think they are real life buddies. I know this does not mean we must let them off but I think we should bear it in mind.


Already reviewed if you dont remember.


So now, here is my request from you all. Please tell me how this case is ANY DIFFERENT than mine? Last I checked, the case against me is the following:

Connected to SG7 (while Dazza is connected to Nag, and can be traced back to SG7)
PMC accuses me of posting stuff already reviewed (While Dazza does the same thing, but also only does 1 liners of it! Brilliant!)

So wait..Did I seriously just prove Dazza wrong, and ultimately connect :-s the 3 that I was accusing before?? Dazza, Nag, and PMC???

Oh my god, I hope I have somehow swayed the vote to the point where we actually try THEIR cases. The only difference I see is that Dazza hasnt been tried. And while he hasnt been tried, PMC and Nag have been directing the pressure back to me, ultimately defending Dazza *big breath in and prepares to continue* and therefore PROVING THE ENTIRE LOAD OF BULL CRAP THAT HAS FORCED TO NOT ONLY TO CLAIM BUT ALL THE WAY TO L-2!!!!! Oh my god, So that means 3 mafia :o. Our magic number!!!
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby dazza2008 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:40 pm

ghostly447 wrote:
dazza2008 wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
dazza2008 wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:Sorry for the confusion daz I wasnt saying your scum im saying that merely connecting people cause they have the same views is bull shit ...im just proving my point


Cheers. I disagree though. Often it is the only way to catch scum. What if the night actions give is no useful information? We need something to go on and people defending a confimed scumbag is something worth following up.

I agree that just connecting people is bullshit but this case is that you are connected AND sg7 was scum.


well thats something I partially agree on ...i only agreed with ghostly cause the stuff he said made sense...i dont think I once said "ya sg7 I agree with you" and if i did its caude i believed he was town and im also sure I didn't vote for him... my point is that your saying im connected to him through other players


You could be right. I will read back through.


Yep yep, thats great and all, but did you here when dazza came back and posted from reading back through? You didnt either? Oh, so its not just me!

dazza2008 wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:Not defending him (cause we all know what happened last time) did you ever think that if he does explain it may ruin the game for us?


I can't see at all what it can be though. I am also tempted to just lynch him.


Trying to speed a lynch up by providing yet another pathetic 1 liner of NO SUBSTANCE.

dazza2008 wrote:
drunkmonkey wrote:I'd like to hear Rodion's "update" before we rush to anything.


Me too. That is why I have not voted.


Tons of substance here guys

dazza2008 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:
nagerous wrote:Well I have no evidence to the contrary as to what ghostly has claimed.

Neither do I, with the information I have at least. Think we should get him to post his list?


I think he should post it.


Seriously?

I will copy and paste the last 5 then.

dazza2008 wrote:
drunkmonkey wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:The numbers Mason...WHAT DO THEY MEAN!!!!!


I had not considered the placement of the numbers. It was established that the scum were able to talk before sending their lists, and thus would probably pick different numbers. Probably, because it was suggest that they could then have two of their members pick the same number to throw off people who believed that the scum would follow a unique-number pattern.....It's very WIFOMy, to say the least.


black ops...nice ;)
Anyway I believe that ghostly was trying to leave the game as he may have said something to hinder other games as he said
It did seem fishy at first but now that he came back and explained it I do believe it


Yes, we all understand why he left. The level of buddying between you two is getting uncomfortable.


I think they are real life buddies. I know this does not mean we must let them off but I think we should bear it in mind.


Already reviewed if you dont remember.


So now, here is my request from you all. Please tell me how this case is ANY DIFFERENT than mine? Last I checked, the case against me is the following:

Connected to SG7 (while Dazza is connected to Nag, and can be traced back to SG7)
PMC accuses me of posting stuff already reviewed (While Dazza does the same thing, but also only does 1 liners of it! Brilliant!)

So wait..Did I seriously just prove Dazza wrong, and ultimately connect :-s the 3 that I was accusing before?? Dazza, Nag, and PMC???

Oh my god, I hope I have somehow swayed the vote to the point where we actually try THEIR cases. The only difference I see is that Dazza hasnt been tried. And while he hasnt been tried, PMC and Nag have been directing the pressure back to me, ultimately defending Dazza *big breath in and prepares to continue* and therefore PROVING THE ENTIRE LOAD OF BULL CRAP THAT HAS FORCED TO NOT ONLY TO CLAIM BUT ALL THE WAY TO L-2!!!!! Oh my god, So that means 3 mafia :o. Our magic number!!!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

As I stated If I have a point that will take 1 line to make that is what I will post. I see no reason to add a load of fluff to the post. In my opinon that is scummier.

Please explain how you are connecting me to SG7. I don't really get where any of the connections are coming from. It seems you are just going back to this immature arguement that all the case on you was connecting unknown people. In your case on of the 3 was known. SG7 was scum.

I was on the SG7 case early and I noticed when he practically admitted to being scum. If he was my scum buddy I would not be on that case early and would not point out his slips and hope town did not catch them.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby edocsil on Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:43 pm

ghostly447 wrote: Oh my god, So that means 3 mafia :o. Our magic number!!!

This line pretty much renders your whole argument invalid. Anytime some believes they know all the scum d1, d2, d3, up until the lylo moment us usually full of hot air.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby drunkmonkey on Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:50 pm

ghostly447 wrote:So now, here is my request from you all. Please tell me how this case is ANY DIFFERENT than mine? Last I checked, the case against me is the following:

Connected to SG7 (while Dazza is connected to Nag, and can be traced back to SG7)
PMC accuses me of posting stuff already reviewed (While Dazza does the same thing, but also only does 1 liners of it! Brilliant!)

So wait..Did I seriously just prove Dazza wrong, and ultimately connect :-s the 3 that I was accusing before?? Dazza, Nag, and PMC???

Oh my god, I hope I have somehow swayed the vote to the point where we actually try THEIR cases. The only difference I see is that Dazza hasnt been tried. And while he hasnt been tried, PMC and Nag have been directing the pressure back to me, ultimately defending Dazza *big breath in and prepares to continue* and therefore PROVING THE ENTIRE LOAD OF BULL CRAP THAT HAS FORCED TO NOT ONLY TO CLAIM BUT ALL THE WAY TO L-2!!!!! Oh my god, So that means 3 mafia :o. Our magic number!!!


For the record, childish/sarcastic things like what I've highlighted are never going to win cases for you.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby spiesr on Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:51 pm

dazza2008 wrote:As I stated If I have a point that will take 1 line to make that is what I will post. I see no reason to add a load of fluff to the post. In my opinon that is scummier.
Well, you are pretty much blatantly keeping an unnecessarily low profile. Also, while you can do stuff like agree with what somebody else is saying, or ask a simple question with short post, what you can't do is contribute any new ideas or cases or anything that actually advances the game. (At least with any success. You could try to make a new case with a short posts, but it probably wouldn't get anywhere without the force of real arguments behind it.) So, why haven't you done any of these things?
dazza2008 wrote:I was on the SG7 case early and I noticed when he practically admitted to being scum. If he was my scum buddy I would not be on that case early and would not point out his slips and hope town did not catch them.
At least that is what you want us to think.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby drunkmonkey on Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:53 pm

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
drunkmonkey wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:I don't think very many people knew that the two of you knew each other in RL. I certainly didn't. I picked out the two of you because you seemed to agree with everything that each other said despite the majority (and, now that we know, the fact of shield being scum) disagreeing with you. If you're placing undue trust upon ghostly because of your real life relationship, the only thing you need to do is step back for a moment. He isn't your friend in this thread. He is another player. He could be scum, he could be against you, or he could simply be wrong. Simply following whatever another player is doing is not how the game is played.


This exactly. I actually started giving less merit to your buddying actions in the game when I found out you were just a new player following your RL friend around.


holy s*** this is exactly why im gonna stop playing!!!
how do you know im following him ?
im 17 years old ..plenty old to make my own decisions regardless if im new or not...being new doesnt mean im as dumb as a damn rock

You need to calm down. If needed, I could go back and compile a comprehensive list of every time one of you jumped to the other's defense, answered a question directed at the other, or simply posted to tell us you agree with the other. I won't, because it doesn't seem like a case worth pursuing at the moment. However, if ghostly does flip mafia, you're going to have your work cut out tomorrow.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby ghostly447 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:57 pm

Oh holy shit, I am done. I just proved that their entire case was the exact same case against me.

Dazza, By PMC and Nag defending you (sound familiar) and directing attention back to me, it connected you by the same means of PMC connecting me, CLEVER, and SG7.

I am so tired of no one seeing it. It is obviously too far for me to possibly waver your decisions with any amount of pile driving evidence of scum slips imaginable. People would rather point out my sarcasm than actually pay attention to the fact I just pinned their own case against them.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby dazza2008 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:01 pm

spiesr wrote:
dazza2008 wrote:As I stated If I have a point that will take 1 line to make that is what I will post. I see no reason to add a load of fluff to the post. In my opinon that is scummier.
Well, you are pretty much blatantly keeping an unnecessarily low profile. Also, while you can do stuff like agree with what somebody else is saying, or ask a simple question with short post, what you can't do is contribute any new ideas or cases or anything that actually advances the game. (At least with any success. You could try to make a new case with a short posts, but it probably wouldn't get anywhere without the force of real arguments behind it.) So, why haven't you done any of these things?


The posts he is talking about were not making new cases. Look at all my posts. Are they all 1 liners? No. Only when that was all that I needed to say.

spiesr wrote:
dazza2008 wrote:I was on the SG7 case early and I noticed when he practically admitted to being scum. If he was my scum buddy I would not be on that case early and would not point out his slips and hope town did not catch them.
At least that is what you want us to think.


Well obviously I could be scum and through him under the bus in an attempt to clear myself. That is not what I was doing, obviously that will need to be proven in time but right now I have no way of proving anything.

Fastposted.

ghostly447 wrote:Oh holy shit, I am done. I just proved that their entire case was the exact same case against me.

Dazza, By PMC and Nag defending you (sound familiar) and directing attention back to me, it connected you by the same means of PMC connecting me, CLEVER, and SG7.

I am so tired of no one seeing it. It is obviously too far for me to possibly waver your decisions with any amount of pile driving evidence of scum slips imaginable. People would rather point out my sarcasm than actually pay attention to the fact I just pinned their own case against them.


Still not seing how in anyway that is connecting me to SG7. He is the only confirmed scum right now and that is why there was the case on the 3 of you being connected.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby ghostly447 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:08 pm

dazza2008 wrote:
spiesr wrote:
dazza2008 wrote:As I stated If I have a point that will take 1 line to make that is what I will post. I see no reason to add a load of fluff to the post. In my opinon that is scummier.
Well, you are pretty much blatantly keeping an unnecessarily low profile. Also, while you can do stuff like agree with what somebody else is saying, or ask a simple question with short post, what you can't do is contribute any new ideas or cases or anything that actually advances the game. (At least with any success. You could try to make a new case with a short posts, but it probably wouldn't get anywhere without the force of real arguments behind it.) So, why haven't you done any of these things?


The posts he is talking about were not making new cases. Look at all my posts. Are they all 1 liners? No. Only when that was all that I needed to say.

spiesr wrote:
dazza2008 wrote:I was on the SG7 case early and I noticed when he practically admitted to being scum. If he was my scum buddy I would not be on that case early and would not point out his slips and hope town did not catch them.
At least that is what you want us to think.


Well obviously I could be scum and through him under the bus in an attempt to clear myself. That is not what I was doing, obviously that will need to be proven in time but right now I have no way of proving anything.

Fastposted.

ghostly447 wrote:Oh holy shit, I am done. I just proved that their entire case was the exact same case against me.

Dazza, By PMC and Nag defending you (sound familiar) and directing attention back to me, it connected you by the same means of PMC connecting me, CLEVER, and SG7.

I am so tired of no one seeing it. It is obviously too far for me to possibly waver your decisions with any amount of pile driving evidence of scum slips imaginable. People would rather point out my sarcasm than actually pay attention to the fact I just pinned their own case against them.


Still not seing how in anyway that is connecting me to SG7. He is the only confirmed scum right now and that is why there was the case on the 3 of you being connected.



For gods sake, I will say this once more.

You see, I, being town (confirmed once you get me lynched) had no idea who the mafia were! So, believe it or not, you cant say "hes the confirmed mafia, its time to hunt down those connected to him by defending him because they obviously knew he was mafia". I seriously doubt that you will find all the mafia with the method (you are already missing me), so therefore there are actually these things called "New connections". Thats when someone proves you are more connected than them to the already dead mafia, and therefore there may be a similar case in a different set of people. If you could just go from connection to connection then this game would be too easy. But you CANT all the time. IF there was extremely compelling evidence, like a CounterClaim, or even someone saying "I did this" but someone proves they didnt, then you can make some damn connections.

This game is ticking me off.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby spiesr on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:10 pm

ghostly447 wrote:Oh holy shit, I am done. I just proved that their entire case was the exact same case against me.

Dazza, By PMC and Nag defending you (sound familiar) and directing attention back to me, it connected you by the same means of PMC connecting me, CLEVER, and SG7.

I am so tired of no one seeing it. It is obviously too far for me to possibly waver your decisions with any amount of pile driving evidence of scum slips imaginable. People would rather point out my sarcasm than actually pay attention to the fact I just pinned their own case against them.
The "case" you made against them (Which I am still not 100% sure if you want us to take seriously or if you are just using it as example to discredit the case against you.) may have been based on a similar sort of logic, but it isn't exactly equivalent. The connections between you, Shield, and SomethingClever are more substantial and scummy than the ones you pose between nagerous and company. The case you made was blatantly reactionary, which seriously harms it's potential credibility.
Things like your tendency to claim that those against you are scummy (while you come up with arguments and whatnot this always ends up looking like OMGUS) and your decision that you had adequately dealt with and can now dismiss the case on you from yesterday, when many of us disagree, don't help your position any either.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby spiesr on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:12 pm

ghostly447 wrote:IF there was extremely compelling evidence, like a CounterClaim, or even someone saying "I did this" but someone proves they didnt, then you can make some damn connections.

This game is ticking me off.
Well, since no evidence of that sort exists on any player at the moment, and that we are still going to lynch somebody today, despite not having that type of evidence against them, I don't see how you can get mad that we are going after you without that type of evidence.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby ghostly447 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:18 pm

spiesr wrote:
ghostly447 wrote:IF there was extremely compelling evidence, like a CounterClaim, or even someone saying "I did this" but someone proves they didnt, then you can make some damn connections.

This game is ticking me off.
Well, since no evidence of that sort exists on any player at the moment, and that we are still going to lynch somebody today, despite not having that type of evidence against them, I don't see how you can get mad that we are going after you without that type of evidence.


I am not mad that they arent using that sort, I know how the game works. I am mad that no one any longer sees my side because I am caught in a web of bull crap developed by those heading my case. The same bull crap I just linked them with that got discredited because people would rather pick out where I used sarcasm than actually notice its exactly the same except for that it doesnt link them to SG7. Any good mafia would logically separate themselves from him after a little while of him getting himself killed or whatnot, and that only proves my damn side. The fact I didnt separate myself should have shown that I had no idea. THATS what makes me mad.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby pmchugh on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:29 pm

ghostly447 wrote:
spiesr wrote:
ghostly447 wrote:IF there was extremely compelling evidence, like a CounterClaim, or even someone saying "I did this" but someone proves they didnt, then you can make some damn connections.

This game is ticking me off.
Well, since no evidence of that sort exists on any player at the moment, and that we are still going to lynch somebody today, despite not having that type of evidence against them, I don't see how you can get mad that we are going after you without that type of evidence.


I am not mad that they arent using that sort, I know how the game works. I am mad that no one any longer sees my side because I am caught in a web of bull crap developed by those heading my case. The same bull crap I just linked them with that got discredited because people would rather pick out where I used sarcasm than actually notice its exactly the same except for that it doesnt link them to SG7. Any good mafia would logically separate themselves from him after a little while of him getting himself killed or whatnot, and that only proves my damn side. The fact I didnt separate myself should have shown that I had no idea. THATS what makes me mad.


I don't think the main case against you is your agreeing with shield, I think that case is more against clever than you. My main problem with you is the way you acted day 1. You guys seem to be defending reasonably at the moment but I still think your lynch would provide the most information.

The thing I don't like is that some people are hiding behind this as they assume you will get lynched.

My town tells are much stronger than my maf tells atm.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:33 pm

ghostly447 wrote:
spiesr wrote:
ghostly447 wrote:IF there was extremely compelling evidence, like a CounterClaim, or even someone saying "I did this" but someone proves they didnt, then you can make some damn connections.

This game is ticking me off.
Well, since no evidence of that sort exists on any player at the moment, and that we are still going to lynch somebody today, despite not having that type of evidence against them, I don't see how you can get mad that we are going after you without that type of evidence.


I am not mad that they arent using that sort, I know how the game works. I am mad that no one any longer sees my side because I am caught in a web of bull crap developed by those heading my case. The same bull crap I just linked them with that got discredited because people would rather pick out where I used sarcasm than actually notice its exactly the same except for that it doesnt link them to SG7. Any good mafia would logically separate themselves from him after a little while of him getting himself killed or whatnot, and that only proves my damn side. The fact I didnt separate myself should have shown that I had no idea. THATS what makes me mad.


ok (not defending him)
look he has a point you guys defended him and are all ignoring the point he made by not saying anything about it
i would like to know why your defending daz and by god u better not say "cause we believe he is town" or "ghostly is wrong" or anything related to that
i defended ghost on his case early on and im still on his side ...may i ask whats wrong with that?
you guys are obviously on daz side and have been since a case was brought on him
and when you guys say well we werent conected to sg7 so we cant be mafia...if i was mafia which im not i would have disconected myself fast when the pressure was pushed on him...isnt that what mafia do?
i know how it feels to have my post looked over and it sucks this is why im saying all this because if he is gonna get lynched then i want to hear everything he has to say and i would hope you guys would want the same

-CLEVER

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i agree the case is against me but you guys are conecting us so in turn when one of us get lynched our alignment will show and since we dont know each others alignments it is scary as hell considering he may be mafia and i dont know then he gets lynched and you guys will hit me and i wont be able to do anything at all this is why i believe he is defending himself ..because when you guys make a case on me and connect him you are in turn making a case on him as well
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby ghostly447 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:36 pm

pmchugh wrote:
ghostly447 wrote:
spiesr wrote:
ghostly447 wrote:IF there was extremely compelling evidence, like a CounterClaim, or even someone saying "I did this" but someone proves they didnt, then you can make some damn connections.

This game is ticking me off.
Well, since no evidence of that sort exists on any player at the moment, and that we are still going to lynch somebody today, despite not having that type of evidence against them, I don't see how you can get mad that we are going after you without that type of evidence.


I am not mad that they arent using that sort, I know how the game works. I am mad that no one any longer sees my side because I am caught in a web of bull crap developed by those heading my case. The same bull crap I just linked them with that got discredited because people would rather pick out where I used sarcasm than actually notice its exactly the same except for that it doesnt link them to SG7. Any good mafia would logically separate themselves from him after a little while of him getting himself killed or whatnot, and that only proves my damn side. The fact I didnt separate myself should have shown that I had no idea. THATS what makes me mad.


I don't think the main case against you is your agreeing with shield, I think that case is more against clever than you. My main problem with you is the way you acted day 1. You guys seem to be defending reasonably at the moment but I still think your lynch would provide the most information.

The thing I don't like is that some people are hiding behind this as they assume you will get lynched.

My town tells are much stronger than my maf tells atm.


God I hate it when people try to clear themselves by saying stuff like "My town tells are much stronger than my maf tell atm."

Its kind of like "at the moment, you cant tell me that I am mafia, because I obviously am not and everyone knows that".

If you say it like "When I flip town, I hope good comes of it" I see it as "well at least they arent saying they ARE town for sure. Because that is like trying to let us read their minds and role PM's".

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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby pmchugh on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:38 pm

Can you two stop saying things like "you guys" and name people. I don't know whether you are talking to me but I certainly haven't cleared either nag or daz, I was even initially on ghostlys side. I don't think the case brought against either of them is particularly serious enough to warrant a lynch tho.

Fastposted by ghostly. I don't know if I get what you mean. I was meaning my town tells on other people.. not myself.
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:42 pm

sorry
when i said new guy i meant daz and nag
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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:42 pm

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:sorry
when i said you guys i meant daz and nag


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Re: Power Role Draft Mafia (12/15) - Day 2

Postby ghostly447 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:46 pm

pmchugh wrote:Can you two stop saying things like "you guys" and name people. I don't know whether you are talking to me but I certainly haven't cleared either nag or daz, I was even initially on ghostlys side. I don't think the case brought against either of them is particularly serious enough to warrant a lynch tho.

Fastposted by ghostly. I don't know if I get what you mean. I was meaning my town tells on other people.. not myself.


Fine. By you guys, I address everyone in the game. You Guys are going to lynch me because of the exact reason I went against daz, nag, and you about.

If I am not mistaken, PMC, you actually.. Kind of started against us with this post:
pmchugh wrote:I would still like to hear a response from yesterday by ghostly. Also I would like to bring fresh evidence against clever, but right now I have an evaluation + conclusion on my dissertation to do due in like 12 hours.


Well now that I have you contradicting yourself at the start of the day till now, I do believe that gives me yet another bit against you, daz, and Neb.
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