Fire and Ice Mafia! (2/12) GAME OVER!! ~ TOWN WINS!! ~

by **Some7hingCLEVER** on Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:45 pm

Ya I pretty much am dead nothing I can do now

by **MoB Deadly** on Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:09 pm

Silence! Deadline has been reached. Clever has been lynched. Scene hopefully soon or tonight, but possibly tomorrow.

by **MoB Deadly** on Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:22 pm

Two other twins, Ghostly and New Guy, lead the town in the lynch again. They turned to Clever and interrogated him. Why haven't you been talking? "Umm I just moved in here, no wait, I just woke up!" Clever responded. WRONG! they shouted back. They strung him up and asked for his last words. He looked up and said, "I am happy to die, I will get to join my twin brother in the afterlife." They kicked the stool and a short time later, Clever stopped twitching.

SOME7HINGCLEVER - Fire Goon - HAS BEEN LYNCHED

NIGHT 2 HAS BEGUN! DEADLINE SUNDAY 5PM EST!

by **ghostly447** on Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:53 pm

Good game clever. Good work town. 1 scum left.

by **shieldgenerator7** on Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:06 pm

Wow clever you completely had me thinking you're town. I'm too gullible. Good game

by **jgordon1111** on Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:50 pm

well hot damn good play all bye

by **everywhere116** on Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:29 am

*and then Clever's corpse turned into a supernova, destroying the entire village*

by **new guy1** on Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:35 pm

That would suck so bad

haha.

by **MoB Deadly** on Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:22 pm

Sorry. Scene will be up a day late.

by **MoB Deadly** on Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:48 pm

Apologies for the crappy scene, but I know you guys wanna play again.

The last twin sister was happy to see the fire mage that killed her sister was hung. However, her work wasn't done. She wanted to control this whole town, one by one. In order to guarantee success, she would have to kill the healer. She walked into the church and found him studying a book on restoration. She formed a sword made out of ice, walked up behind him, and cut his head lean off. Just for fun she blew frost breath onto him, which froze him solid on the ground so the town would have difficulty cleaning it up.

JGORDON1111 - Town Doctor - HAS BEEN FROZEN SOLID.

Day 3 Go! With 7 players alive it takes 4 to lynch! Deadline Sunday 5:00 PM EST.

Do you want jgordon to replace? I still need someone to replace spurgistan, what do you think?

by **jgordon1111** on Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:08 pm

knew that was coming LOL,go town its six to one find the scum

by **ghostly447** on Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:12 pm

I dont mind jgordon replacing. I will try to post more of substance tomorrow containing roles we know, etc.

by **shieldgenerator7** on Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:19 pm

c'mon jgordon! we need you as a confirmed townie!

by **shieldgenerator7** on Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:21 pm

wildwilliam - Replaced by spurgistan - CLEARED B/C inactivity
2. edocsil - Replaced by SG8 - CLEARED
3. Victor Sullivan - Replaced by SPARTACUS1974
4. mc05025
7. New Guy1
9. ghostly447
12. Leehar

so out of these it's 1 mafia in this group: SPARTACUS, mc05025, NG1, ghostly, Leehar
I'm inclined to think it's either spartacus or leehar based on gut feeling. Will have to search a little to find evidence.
IN the mean time, VOTE LEEHAR

-SG7 (

)

by **new guy1** on Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:34 pm

I dont think it was a crap scene, and I do not mind at all if JG replaces.

by **shieldgenerator7** on Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:38 pm

LYNCH EVALUATION

Worst Case Scenario:
D3 - town lynch
N3 - town dies
D4 - 1 mafia:5 town, town lynch
N4 - town dies
D5 - 1 mafia:3 town, at this point it's lynch mafia or die

No Lynch Scenario:
D3 - no lynch
N3 - town dies
D4 - 1 mafia:6 town, no lynch
N4 - town dies
D5 - 1 mafia:5 town, no lynch
N5 - town dies
D6 - 1 mafia:4 town, no lynch
N6 - town dies
D7 - 1 mafia:3 town, at this point it's lynch mafia or die

Best Case Scenario:
D3 - mafia dies, town wins

case on leehar to follow

-SG7 (

)

by **shieldgenerator7** on Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:49 pm

p.31

Leehar wrote:Sheesh, if I didn't already retract my vote on edoc/sg7, 31 - I'd really be voting him again for blatant role fishing!

p.32

Leehar wrote:jgordon has a point tho.
It's possible it only takes 1 goon to make a kill, so hypothetically speaking, cms and edoc could have both been Ice goons, but because edoc went dark/inactive, cms just decided on and made the kill himself?
Tho obviously Scene flavour does lend itself to 2 ice's being involved. But either way, edoc was supporting a fire goon in the beginning anyway, so I think there's too much chance in there!

p.33

Leehar wrote:Yeah, but the Fire goon has to have been active during the night to kill someone since he was the only one of his crew, which obv clears edoc and by extension sg7 of being fire, tho they perhaps still can be ice

He keeps talking about me and edoc and the fire and ice goons, but it's always the same stuff over and over again, as if he was just showing up to appear active. His posts are an attempt to appear townish while hiding behind a mask and being mafia.

Also, this from the doc:

jgordon1111 wrote:Vote leehar always to cautious to take a side leehar,this time its going to get you lynched, you seem to use this style when your mafia so I think for once I will test my theory on your play style

Leehar is always posting game relevant content that only has to do with flavor or things that have been stated already, and he doesn't often vote or take sides, like jgordon pointed out. He is lurking.

And anyway he's a great guy, just happens to seemingly be scum this game.

-SG7 (

)

by **SPARTACUS1974** on Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:13 am

ok just got back from sea
i say let jgordon replace spur

and not to sure about this vote but if presure on leehar helps then anything is worth a try we got the last 1 right .
vote leehar

by **ghostly447** on Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:32 am

I will vote leehar because from past experience he is relatively quiet but posts a little bit of what has been said. No need for claims though just a defensive case. Anyone left will claim vt.

by **new guy1** on Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:12 am

ghostly447 wrote:I will vote leehar because from past experience he is relatively quiet but posts a little bit of what has been said. No need for claims though just a defensive case. Anyone left will claim vt.

agreed. Leehar, claiming VT will not help your case as it is just going to be that way (unless someone wants to claim ice good :lol:

), so just try to make a good case to defend yourself, and if it comes down to us lynching you anyways, give us some people you think might be mafia just by their actions in this game so we have something to go off of.

by **Leehar** on Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:57 am

I was gonna say it's a simple matter since if I was Ice, I wouldn't have been supporting the Fire goons (very minutely I admit) in that early 2v2 argument in the beginning, but that argument obviously can't hold because it's more Flavour as sg7 complained about, but more importantly because there was no reason to know who fire at that point anyway.

However, I think a more successful defense is the simple matter that I haven't been very bloodthirsty? Obviously that could often be scummy, but in this scenario, as sg7 so succinctly explained in his example, the worst case scenario for Town involves the lynching of the wrong targets, but thats obviously the best case for Ice goon (the only scum left)?
Therefore, by dint of the fact that I didn't bandwagon onto the Something Clever Lynch, when obviously Ice would/should want to do as it makes it quicker for him to survive and since he knew he couldn't get his own guy, he'd want to very much be in support of lynching either us townies or the fire goons that would assumably need to die for him to achieve his objective (I just realised I should be using her instead of him, but meh)

So yeah, I was actually just thinking of saving this argument to use on whoever was most advocating more lynchings, but thought since I'm already on L-2 it can still be beneficial using it while I still live.
And it can also be applied retrospectively in looking at who was actively involved in the lynches and tying that up with whoever was also involved in the same lynchings with Cms? (the other Ice Goon?)

Otherwise, I think a more valuable case then me could be again looking for submariners or inactives, since they either won't be helpful in catching the killer, or be the Goon himself (Like how I don't remember much else from cms other than popping up to vote for the lynch? So something similar could be for his teammate)

So yeah, I think if we can tie up the aforementioned scum-tells that I've mentioned, we should have a decent chance of catching the last Ice sister

And w00t, I'm already actually L-1, I hope you guys can unvote, otherwise as I said, look for the guys trying to get out with an easy, quick lynch so they can perform their nefarious activities at night!

by **mc05025** on Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:00 am

shieldgenerator7 wrote:wildwilliam - Replaced by spurgistan - CLEARED B/C inactivity
2. edocsil - Replaced by SG8 - CLEARED
3. Victor Sullivan - Replaced by SPARTACUS1974
4. mc05025
7. New Guy1
9. ghostly447
12. Leehar

so out of these it's 1 mafia in this group: SPARTACUS, mc05025, NG1, ghostly, Leehar
I'm inclined to think it's either spartacus or leehar based on gut feeling. Will have to search a little to find evidence.
IN the mean time, VOTE LEEHAR

-SG7 ( )

Once more I will disagree with you guys

. I do not think there are any logical reasons that makes Leehar more suspicious than SG8 or me.

Lets explain my position.

First of all SG8 is making himself clear which is ridiculous. He was clear from being fire goon but now everyone is cleared from being a fire goon. So he is not clear at all but he is like everyone else except from wildwilliam - Replaced by spurgistan who is truly CLEARED B/C inactivity.

Secondly, he hurried up to vote which I do not like on day 3 but maybe this is my personal opinion.

Third, his scenario is absolutely rubbish.

shieldgenerator7 wrote:LYNCH EVALUATION

Worst Case Scenario:
D3 - town lynch
N3 - town dies
D4 - 1 mafia:5 town, town lynch
N4 - town dies
D5 - 1 mafia:3 town, at this point it's lynch mafia or die

No Lynch Scenario:
D3 - no lynch
N3 - town dies
D4 - 1 mafia:6 town, no lynch
N4 - town dies
D5 - 1 mafia:5 town, no lynch
N5 - town dies
D6 - 1 mafia:4 town, no lynch
N6 - town dies
D7 - 1 mafia:3 town, at this point it's lynch mafia or die

Best Case Scenario:
D3 - mafia dies, town wins

case on leehar to follow

-SG7 ( )

There are 6 townies alive, not 7. So for the worst scenario on D4 its 4 townies and not 5. The same at other scenario too.

I am not saying he did that on purpose but if he was townie I think he would have been more careful.

These are for SG8.

I got surprised how easily 2 more people followed him.

Spartacus this is not pressure exactly... you almost killed him. One more vote and he is dead.

SPARTACUS1974 wrote:ok just got back from sea
i say let jgordon replace spur

and not to sure about this vote but if presure on leehar helps then anything is worth a try we got the last 1 right .
vote leehar

This is like you are sayong 'hey guys, 'I vote for him but if he is innocent please do not suspect me the next day'

If you are not sure about your vote do not make it L-1

Anyway, the conclusion is that I believe that one of you is the scum (most likely SG8 or spartacus)

PS if Leehar dies and is innocent and I die at night, please remember that post

VOTE SG8

Fastposted Leehar

by **Leehar** on Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:08 am

Also, I think it's worth mentioning that even though I'd like to omgus on sg7, he is essentially cleared for previously mentioned reasons, and that I think we can consider new guy1 as a safe townie as well because he had a chance to hammer me easily but didn't.

And lastly, I think we did have an unseasonably long night, I'm not sure if it was due to other reasons, but it's another reason to consider inactives since the Ice goon seemingly took a while to kill (and it could also put the replacements under the microscope if perhaps they were taking a while to find where jgordon claimed Doc)
(Thats another defense for me btw, I was checking in often in other games, and even sent in a voice from the dead in the Pirate mafia, so there was no reason for me to delay in making a kill.)

So anyway, I think I'll start with vote

Fastpost mc

Lol, was just about to vote him (for the inactivity part of my arg) but some great argument and analysis there and I forgot the sg-fire goon relationship!

by **jgordon1111** on Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:12 am

woooooo! woooooooo! dont know if I am in or not so at current time speaking from the grave WOOOOO! WOOOOOO! MoB where are you?

by **shieldgenerator7** on Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:33 pm

[color=##FF0000]UNVOTE[/color]

Nice defense leehar.

nice case mc. I was thinking about spartacus too.

VOTE SPARTACUS for bandwagoning, see mc's post.

-SG7 (

)

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