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Postby Caleb the Cruel on Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:58 pm

heavycola wrote:
Caleb the Cruel wrote:Well there will be a series of apocalyptic events. And guess what, the next one on schedule is the Explosions of 2007 & 2008. The next major one after that is the Comet of 2012. Likely to be Sunday, December 23, 2012. So don't expect a Christmas gift from me that year. There are many many more predictions and details about them. If you are interested, contact me via pm. I've said enough here.


Caleb if there are any apocalyptic events this year or next, i will convert. As long as you agreee that if dec 23 2012 passes without a comet wiping us out, you will calm down and realise it's all a load of bollocks. At least you're young enough to get out early when these things don't come to pass.


Just note this as well...
I did not say the Comet of 2012 would be the end.

And I look forward to the day of your conversion!
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Postby Stopper on Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:19 pm

Caleb the Cruel wrote:Well there will be a series of apocalyptic events. And guess what, the next one on schedule is the Explosions of 2007 & 2008. The next major one after that is the Comet of 2012. Likely to be Sunday, December 23, 2012. So don't expect a Christmas gift from me that year. There are many many more predictions and details about them. If you are interested, contact me via pm. I've said enough here.


Ooh! What exactly are the 2007 Explosions, then? If these prophecies of Explosions are described in a way that actually mean anything and are verifiable, and not as "something bad will happen sometime, somewhere", I might open a book on these, but mind, I'm only taking bets for, not against.
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Postby Hologram on Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:47 pm

A lot of death.

Also,

"I know not what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

-Albert Einstein
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Postby Hologram on Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:51 pm

Hologram wrote:A lot of death.

Also,

"I know not what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

-Albert Einstein
And in response to the first post, no one really knows what would destroy humanity, but half of those options ain't it. My guess is it's either the asteroid one, or WWIII. The former being more likely. WWIII will result in some terrible stuff, and the effects will probably be felt quite a lot, but it probably won't be enough to end humanity completely. Perhaps civilization as we know it, but not humanity
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Postby Neutrino on Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:19 pm

Jenos Ridan wrote:
Alexwales93 wrote:I hope I'm long gone before the end of the world , or of course, WWIII.
But wont there be ways to live on other planets in our solar system in like 100 years?

But ultimatley, the earth exploding would wipe EVERYTHING out within a 2 billion miles to it ( or somthing like that?)


Hopefully, by the dawn of the 22nd century we will have at least inter-planetary travel and colonies on most of the larger rocky bodies in the solar system. If we are very lucky, in 50 years.


Pfft, why the hell would you want to colonise planets? Asteroids and comets beat them in every way, shape and form.

They have more minerals (in total), less energy expenditure too and from and they are just plain easier to access.


Anyway; this particular society of living beyond its means is doomed, whether by violence or people realising the problems. Hopefully something better will rise out of the ashes of the old. I dont really doubt that humanity will eventually put a decent colony into space (I assume that society will hold together for that long), but no matte how large humanities theoretical interstellar empire gets, we are still screwed from The Heat Death.
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Postby Jenos Ridan on Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:02 am

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Alexwales93 wrote:I hope I'm long gone before the end of the world , or of course, WWIII.
But wont there be ways to live on other planets in our solar system in like 100 years?

But ultimatley, the earth exploding would wipe EVERYTHING out within a 2 billion miles to it ( or somthing like that?)


Hopefully, by the dawn of the 22nd century we will have at least inter-planetary travel and colonies on most of the larger rocky bodies in the solar system. If we are very lucky, in 50 years.


Pfft, why the hell would you want to colonise planets? Asteroids and comets beat them in every way, shape and form.

They have more minerals (in total), less energy expenditure too and from and they are just plain easier to access.


Anyway; this particular society of living beyond its means is doomed, whether by violence or people realising the problems. Hopefully something better will rise out of the ashes of the old. I dont really doubt that humanity will eventually put a decent colony into space (I assume that society will hold together for that long), but no matte how large humanities theoretical interstellar empire gets, we are still screwed from The Heat Death.


'Cause with planets, you get air and water. Can't very well breath hard vacuum, not can we? There are just too damned many nations and tribes on this damn rock ball and more are coming everyday. So, two options: Population Control or Mass Exodus. Controling population is difficult if not outright impossible in free countries due to most people looking down at most of the methods to do so (government laws controlling number of births, etc.). I perfer the mass exodus, heck, I'd even join a coloney group if possible.
As for the 'Heat Death', bah. It is actually the big freeze, but that isn't gonna happen for an almost inconceivably long time.
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Postby Neutrino on Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:40 am

Jenos Ridan wrote:
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Pfft, why the hell would you want to colonise planets? Asteroids and comets beat them in every way, shape and form.

They have more minerals (in total), less energy expenditure too and from and they are just plain easier to access.


Anyway; this particular society of living beyond its means is doomed, whether by violence or people realising the problems. Hopefully something better will rise out of the ashes of the old. I dont really doubt that humanity will eventually put a decent colony into space (I assume that society will hold together for that long), but no matte how large humanities theoretical interstellar empire gets, we are still screwed from The Heat Death.


'Cause with planets, you get air and water. Can't very well breath hard vacuum, not can we? There are just too damned many nations and tribes on this damn rock ball and more are coming everyday. So, two options: Population Control or Mass Exodus. Controling population is difficult if not outright impossible in free countries due to most people looking down at most of the methods to do so (government laws controlling number of births, etc.). I perfer the mass exodus, heck, I'd even join a coloney group if possible.
As for the 'Heat Death', bah. It is actually the big freeze, but that isn't gonna happen for an almost inconceivably long time.


But there is tons (literaly) of air and water in every comet and asteriod (mostly comets). Most comets are about 30% water, 50% complex organics and the rest is precious metals. 30% of a few million ton comet (those are the small ones) is a hell of a lot of air and water.
Now: whereever you go in the solar system there is no chance you are going to locate a nice, Earthlike planet. Therefore, any off-planet colonies are going to have to use bubble-domes and the like for a few hundred years at least, until whatever terraforming method that those particular settlers came up with kicks in.
Hell, none of the planets even have everything necessary for a colony.

Mars is covered in Peroxides which will eat away at plastics and its only useful feature is the Iron Oxide sand. Most likely it dosent have any water at all (or only trace amounts) and is severly lacking in Nitrates.
If you made a Martian colony, you would have lots of metals, but none of the other essentials.

Im sure I dont have to say anything about why it is a very, very bad idea to set up a perminant colony on any of the other planets.

Comets and Asteriods have practically all of the necessary essentials and there are a hell of a lot more of them.

Jenos Ridan wrote:As for the 'Heat Death', bah. It is actually the big freeze, but that isn't gonna happen for an almost inconceivably long time.


Thats why its called 'The Heat Death'. No stars, no heat. Heat Death. Not inconceivably long, its a mere few trillion years away. Any society that has lasted for any serious amount of time will regard it as a very imminent threat.
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Postby Jenos Ridan on Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:48 am

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Jenos Ridan wrote:As for the 'Heat Death', bah. It is actually the big freeze, but that isn't gonna happen for an almost inconceivably long time.


Thats why its called 'The Heat Death'. No stars, no heat. Heat Death. Not inconceivably long, its a mere few trillion years away. Any society that has lasted for any serious amount of time will regard it as a very imminent threat.


Assuming both the End Times or humans becoming extinct fail occur, do you really think we as a species will last that long? I don't we'll last a signifigant fraction of that time, it might as well be an inconceivably long time away.
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Postby Neutrino on Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:04 am

Jenos Ridan wrote:
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Jenos Ridan wrote:As for the 'Heat Death', bah. It is actually the big freeze, but that isn't gonna happen for an almost inconceivably long time.


Thats why its called 'The Heat Death'. No stars, no heat. Heat Death. Not inconceivably long, its a mere few trillion years away. Any society that has lasted for any serious amount of time will regard it as a very imminent threat.


Assuming both the End Times or humans becoming extinct fail occur, do you really think we as a species will last that long? I don't we'll last a signifigant fraction of that time, it might as well be an inconceivably long time away.


Actually, once a species reaches a few dozen solar systems, it becomes very difficult to destroy. Only things like a deliberate extermination or something really big, like two Neutron stars colliding can take out a species that big.

Really, once you are past that threshold its clear sailing until everyone freezes to death.
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Postby Jenos Ridan on Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:22 am

Neutrino wrote:
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Neutrino wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:As for the 'Heat Death', bah. It is actually the big freeze, but that isn't gonna happen for an almost inconceivably long time.


Thats why its called 'The Heat Death'. No stars, no heat. Heat Death. Not inconceivably long, its a mere few trillion years away. Any society that has lasted for any serious amount of time will regard it as a very imminent threat.


Assuming both the End Times or humans becoming extinct fail occur, do you really think we as a species will last that long? I don't we'll last a signifigant fraction of that time, it might as well be an inconceivably long time away.


Actually, once a species reaches a few dozen solar systems, it becomes very difficult to destroy. Only things like a deliberate extermination or something really big, like two Neutron stars colliding can take out a species that big.

Really, once you are past that threshold its clear sailing until everyone freezes to death.


Neuton Star Collision, yes. Course, so can gamma wave bursts.
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