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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby edocsil on Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:47 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:ok I am personally tired of the fighting, and the over extensive qoutes that pretty much guarantee no one will read them.

It breaks down to this everywhere you think I am scum,ok good for you, I happen to believe you are the scum that omgus me for calling you out. neither here nor there.

boom now someone came to my defense who recognized the hints I was trying to drop, now you are deciding to vote him LOL

lets be done with it keep the quotes out of it unless needed put your case against me or ghost forward and let town decide rather than continue this.

Thank you leehar and sg7 for showing up, so many players so few willing to say anything. Quite submarining please and come forward and put your vote in if nothing else.

At this point you dont have to give a reason just vote


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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby everywhere116 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:49 pm

Leehar wrote:Lot of discussion while I was abed again, but I still think it's too risky to kick the claimed doctor out just yet, I'm going for the lesser of the 2 evils, so Unvote Vote Ghostly

I had considered this, too. One of the reasons I didn't do it was because I wasn't sure we could get enough votes in time for the lynch, and end up splitting the vote and lynching neither of them. Although assuming that no one else changes their voting status, if both I and edocsil changes our vote to ghostly, that would be enough.

What do you think, edocsil?

And what do you think, literally everyone else in the thread who hasn't commented yet since I made a case?
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby edocsil on Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:12 pm

6 hours was enough for a response from ghostly. Unvote Vote ghostly

1. Buddying with Doc
2. Claimed tells by doc are absent
3. Classic example of a scum buddying with a town who was likely to be lynched. Allows him to go "told you so!" when the townie is lynched. Only the doc claim stopped this, but h e cites "doc tells" as cover.
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:22 pm

UNVOTE VOTE GHOSTLY for reasons stated above, BW

FOS shield for blatant bandwagoning

Maybe we'll get a lynch in. I think the player with most votes is lynched. Correct?

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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby edocsil on Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:23 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:UNVOTE VOTE GHOSTLY for reasons stated above, BW

FOS shield for blatant bandwagoning

Maybe we'll get a lynch in. I think the player with most votes is lynched. Correct?

-SG7 ( :) )


It isn't in the Rules. Uncertain if it was posted elsewhere.
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby new guy1 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:39 pm

im sorry, but do i see a speed wagon forming through cooperation between edoc and everywhere?... FOS both of you.
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby edocsil on Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:42 pm

new guy1 wrote:im sorry, but do i see a speed wagon forming through cooperation between edoc and everywhere?... FOS both of you.


For agreeing that someone was doing something scummy and should be hung? Not FoS.
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby everywhere116 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:44 pm

Alrighty then.

Unvote Vote Ghostly

@edocsil: MoB said at the start of day one that the one with the most votes at the end of the day will get lynched, regardless of whether it is a majority or not (although if it was I assume the day would end anyway.)
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby ghostly447 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:45 pm

edocsil wrote:6 hours was enough for a response from ghostly. Unvote Vote ghostly

1. Buddying with Doc
2. Claimed tells by doc are absent
3. Classic example of a scum buddying with a town who was likely to be lynched. Allows him to go "told you so!" when the townie is lynched. Only the doc claim stopped this, but h e cites "doc tells" as cover.


Was it this game or hectic eclectic I said wait 6 and 1/2 hours AT LEAST? Because it hasnt been too much more than that. I am home and reading.
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Leehar wrote:Lot of discussion while I was abed again, but I still think it's too risky to kick the claimed doctor out just yet, I'm going for the lesser of the 2 evils, so Unvote Vote Ghostly

I had considered this, too. One of the reasons I didn't do it was because I wasn't sure we could get enough votes in time for the lynch, and end up splitting the vote and lynching neither of them. Although assuming that no one else changes their voting status, if both I and edocsil changes our vote to ghostly, that would be enough.



What do you think, edocsil?

And what do you think, literally everyone else in the thread who hasn't commented yet since I made a case?


That just made me shit myself it was so funny. Did you seriously just ask edoc to switch his vote WITH you? You covered your tracks so damn well everywhere, how are you going to screw up like that and literally ask him to switch with you?

I claim Vanilla Townie.

Okay now edocsil, if we both switch our votes to everywhere we are going to lynch scum. What do you think? =D> :lol:
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby new guy1 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:48 pm

very well then, dont tell me where my FOS goes. its my finger, not yours :D.

fastposted- wow ghostly, i didnt think someone could be so sarcastic when the rope is ready for them :D.
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby ghostly447 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:54 pm

everywhere116 wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:And you will notice my vote isnt on that wagon (yet) you havent made a scum slip that would put it there


You are Most Definitely Not A Mage


why would you say something like that everywhere, dont take my post to mean anything in particular

where yours on the other hand points to you being one most likely that was a bad move on your behalf,now let wait on your twin to try and back you out of this.
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I am still reading through, but how did THIS turn into a doctor claim?

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mc05025 wrote:Vote guys. 2 days left only. We absolutely need a kill on day 1. At the first night 2 of us will die and we will have no informations at all.

3 days. But your point is valid. Edocsil will be lynched if the voting record stays like this, and he hasn't acted scummy in the slightest.

The person I'm looking at is jgordon, mainly because of his actions on the last page. First, he was very quick to remind edocsil and us all that he hasn't hopped on the bandwagon yet. I replied with a link to TVTropes implying that he is talking too much about his innocence. He responds with a vitriolic rant against me accusing me of being a mage and waiting for my partner to defend me. This seems odd, considering that he most likely would not have such an emotional response for what could easily by taken as a joke, similar to what he was doing on the last page as well. It reminds me of
show: non vulgar version

show: vulgar version


In conclusion, because of his constant reminders of his innocence and his own overreaction to the insinuation that his reminders are too much, I think that jgordon is acting the scummiest out of all of us and deserves to by lynched.

Unvote vote jgordon

Fastposted by jgordon and shield


Oh yeah, the case that got it started. The fact he didnt want to click a link, or didnt take the time to read it (similar to myself). Links to support a case are not something you ought to use against someone.

I feel the biggest thing about gordon that made me know he was doctor was the fact he was quiet, trying to catch scum, and let us know he wasnt scumarining. Now I will let you ponder on your mistake (in my last post) that is quite obviously the biggest scum slip today.
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby jgordon1111 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:54 pm

LOL I believe ghost,and wildly enough he is taking the heat off me. Because if he gets lynched, tonight I am dead, and 2 players get to claim innocent of it, and that well I was erratic and they just didnt see a reason to lynch the maybe doc,just in case I am the real one. Its a win win for 2 players. again cudos to both of you. And if I am wrong then again for a noob player ghost is good.
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby everywhere116 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:58 pm

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Leehar wrote:Lot of discussion while I was abed again, but I still think it's too risky to kick the claimed doctor out just yet, I'm going for the lesser of the 2 evils, so Unvote Vote Ghostly

I had considered this, too. One of the reasons I didn't do it was because I wasn't sure we could get enough votes in time for the lynch, and end up splitting the vote and lynching neither of them. Although assuming that no one else changes their voting status, if both I and edocsil changes our vote to ghostly, that would be enough.



What do you think, edocsil?

And what do you think, literally everyone else in the thread who hasn't commented yet since I made a case?


That just made me shit myself it was so funny. Did you seriously just ask edoc to switch his vote WITH you? You covered your tracks so damn well everywhere, how are you going to screw up like that and literally ask him to switch with you?

I claim Vanilla Townie.

Okay now edocsil, if we both switch our votes to everywhere we are going to lynch scum. What do you think? =D> :lol:[/quote]Idiot. I'm virtually certain that both of you are scum, but I don't want to let you guys off because of some vote-splitting bulls­hit, so I wanted to make sure we were all on the same page before switching. Now that everyone who voted for jgordon has switched, it's a non-issue.
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby edocsil on Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:00 pm

New guy, put your finger where ever they see fit lol.

Jokes aside, Ghostly no.

Please go reread what you just posted and see if you can tell why I am laughing.

Ah well, ill just spill it, not enough time to play around.

You point at Everywhere for looking for me to switch with him, and then ask me to do the same damn thing with you. Ergo, you think you are scummy too. :edit: you are doing this atm aparently. Beyond this you never answered anything about the buddying after making us wait so long for it. Also, him looking for confirmation before moving is important, if the votes are spread around, we may lynch someone unintended by accident when deadline hits.

Edited again: Shame on you for not reading all that is posted. Add skimming to your list. Links count, ESPECIALLY if cited in a argument.


And again: !!! LET ME POST THIS DAMMIT
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby edocsil on Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:02 pm

Also its 4 for ghostly atm, 2 for me and everywhere.
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby everywhere116 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:04 pm

edocsil wrote:And again: !!! LET ME POST THIS DAMMIT
Hermaeus Mora must like you. He's preventing you from posting your knowledge.

Sheogorath obviously favors gordon and Casper. We sure as hell know that Merida doesn't.
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby new guy1 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:05 pm

edocsil wrote:New guy, put your finger where ever they see fit lol.

Jokes aside, Ghostly no.

Please go reread what you just posted and see if you can tell why I am laughing.

Ah well, ill just spill it, not enough time to play around.

You point at Everywhere for looking for me to switch with him, and then ask me to do the same damn thing with you. Ergo, you think you are scummy too. :edit: you are doing this atm aparently. Beyond this you never answered anything about the buddying after making us wait so long for it. Also, him looking for confirmation before moving is important, if the votes are spread around, we may lynch someone unintended by accident when deadline hits.

Edited again: Shame on you for not reading all that is posted. Add skimming to your list. Links count, ESPECIALLY if cited in a argument.


And again: !!! LET ME POST THIS DAMMIT



i will :P, and im pretty sure he was being sarcastic when he posted that, just try to put yourself in his shoes before thinking that he would just put that out there. and tbh, i dont click on outside sites anywhere. just a force of habit, SORRY!

fastposted- okay, so that means if i can get jgordan and ghostly to switch their votes to one of you, it should make it even/ give us majority right? so if i have to play that stupid card i can? :P

again- your preventing me from posting my knowledge! SHUTUP! :D
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby ghostly447 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:13 pm

everywhere116 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:
Leehar wrote:Lot of discussion while I was abed again, but I still think it's too risky to kick the claimed doctor out just yet, I'm going for the lesser of the 2 evils, so Unvote Vote Ghostly

I had considered this, too. One of the reasons I didn't do it was because I wasn't sure we could get enough votes in time for the lynch, and end up splitting the vote and lynching neither of them. Although assuming that no one else changes their voting status, if both I and edocsil changes our vote to ghostly, that would be enough.



What do you think, edocsil?

And what do you think, literally everyone else in the thread who hasn't commented yet since I made a case?


That just made me shit myself it was so funny. Did you seriously just ask edoc to switch his vote WITH you? You covered your tracks so damn well everywhere, how are you going to screw up like that and literally ask him to switch with you?

I claim Vanilla Townie.

Okay now edocsil, if we both switch our votes to everywhere we are going to lynch scum. What do you think? =D> :lol:
Idiot. I'm virtually certain that both of you are scum, but I don't want to let you guys off because of some vote-splitting bulls­hit, so I wanted to make sure we were all on the same page before switching. Now that everyone who voted for jgordon has switched, it's a non-issue.[/quote]

Oh my you have a vulgar mouth now that you made a scumslip. Now that we are on even ground, gordons supposed outburst to yours (since he was even less vulgar than yourself!) lets sort this out. Now the scummiest evidence of all presented itself. You actually requesting edocsil switch to me with you. You are trying to get me lynched before time runs out so that you can at least get one before you are both lynched. Come on buddy, seriously? Do not try to defend yourself after asking him to go to me with you. You are full of it if you think anyone would fall for any excuse you could squeeze out for asking him to help you lynch me.

Fastposted by edoc. Will address that shortly.

Actually now. Edoc, are you kidding me? That was sarcastic as hell. After you have been arguing with me all day, and everywhere says "Edoc, should we switch?", do you seriously think I would ask you to switch with me after ranting about it? If you think I would do that, then you need some rest buddy.
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby edocsil on Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:20 pm

didn't catch the sarcasm. It isn't something that always translates well over text. You didn't seem to understand why he did it, so I inferred it was a mistake rather then humor.

Newguy, at the moment the best that can be forced is a stalemate, and that is if ever single other person declines to play.


Humor from a different perspective. Me and everywhere = fire, JG and Ghost = Ice. If that was the case and this wasn't about me I would die laughing.
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby new guy1 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:25 pm

holy crap i would die laughing all of you were mafia and you were all trying to convince everyone the others were scum but yet you all were XD. that is humor from my perspective, but on a serious note i do not believe JG and ghost to be scum as JG has claimed doctor (i believe his claim) and ghostly is just backing him. i believe their case, and believe that i can trust it.
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:27 pm

new guy1 wrote:holy crap i would die laughing all of you were mafia and you were all trying to convince everyone the others were scum but yet you all were XD. that is humor from my perspective, but on a serious note i do not believe JG and ghost to be scum as JG has claimed doctor (i believe his claim) and ghostly is just backing him. i believe their case, and believe that i can trust it.


I have to agree here cause if he isn't the doctor that would be a very bold claim since this is an open setup and one doctor
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby edocsil on Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:41 pm

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
new guy1 wrote:holy crap i would die laughing all of you were mafia and you were all trying to convince everyone the others were scum but yet you all were XD. that is humor from my perspective, but on a serious note i do not believe JG and ghost to be scum as JG has claimed doctor (i believe his claim) and ghostly is just backing him. i believe their case, and believe that i can trust it.


I have to agree here cause if he isn't the doctor that would be a very bold claim since this is an open setup and one doctor


Yes, most all of us think he is the doctor. Eveywhere has qualms, but he and I disagree there. He is the only one who thinks hanging JG is a remotely sane idea right now.

new guy1 wrote:I do not believe JG and ghost to be scum as JG has claimed doctor (i believe his claim) and ghostly is just backing him. i believe their case, and believe that i can trust it.


This is EXACTLY why Ghostly is scummy. Buddying is the direct attempt to create this illusion, and more to the point it WORKS. you are all falling for it and are ignoring Ghostly's lies, which he has not even attempted to address, despite asking us to wait for hours with a deadline looming.
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby jgordon1111 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:00 pm

Unvote Vote Edoc for buddying to everywhere or most likely being his twin,you almost backed him out of it edoc good try. Remember me challenging his twin to do it? I just wanted to wait until we were real close to the deadline before bringing this point back up so you 2 cant talk your way out of it.

Oh lets see,your going to say most likely Thats BS evidence etc. And I am going to say oh something like this, far less BS than the crap you 2 were trying to lynch me on then when you realised it wasnt going to happen you switch your votes up quick etc.

let the voting continue. =D>
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Postby jgordon1111 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:01 pm

crap Unvote vote edoc =D>
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - Villagers Gained? Impossi

Postby new guy1 on Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:17 pm

i think if anyone should be lynched, it should be everywhere as edoc may have just chosen a side and picked the wrong one. however, i believe edoc is relatively scummy as well, and so unvote, vote edoc. at least until a better case shows up in this small period of time. i still believe edoc should not get lynched before everywhere as i believe he is the worse between two evils.
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