Abuse of power

[John Deere]

="jgordon1111" Cannot bust someone for a vague rule that is not clearly defined. Eddie if this isnt what you are talking about please be clear and specific.

I bet your ass the mods can! Look for my clan medal win against IA. You wont find it and I didn't break a rule that wasn't clearly defined. All you can shut your pie hole about cant bust people for rules that aren't clear. BS! They did it to us and better do it to Masli for his gross abuse of the system! Oh and to the mod that said all disciplinary actions are for warned in another thread about this same topic, BS! Find my warning and the rest the warnings for the rest of the clan that lost medals before action was taken. CC is a good old boy group and we (the paying customers, except the ass kissers) aren't part of the group.

[Bruceswar]

Good post Bruce, tho I don't think anyone is a "hater" or dislikes Masli. Maybe the odd post came over strong. But you have totally missed the point.

Still one question - how many games have you played in when the opponent(s) got busted for multi?

My score is 1. What's yours? Masli appeared to be hitting 40%

I have been in tons of games with busted multis. In fact I had 6 in one weekend when I played the wac a mod games. Free wins for me not that I cared. I played in 135 total games. I have had many more bust in my games. Some games with 5 players busted.

[John Deere]

If they're abusing site rules they should be gone.

If only you felt that way about your mod friend, but he deserves to not get in trouble for his wrong doing

You're hurting CC because you don't want Masli to gain points from someone that shouldn't have been allowed to be playing games anyways.

But you want Masli to get points he shouldnt when its clear he crooked as hell!

That is not proof of what you're accusing him of. Is it not entirely possible that Masli joined the game, decided to scan the guy, found he was a multi, and banned him?

Of course not but for anybody to think he just happen to run into that many multis he was in games with is foolish at best.

Yes, this drama would have gone away had he chosen to scan the guy before he joined the game, but it is totally unreasonable for us to require that MHs scan every single person in every game they join. That's way too onerous of a request for our volunteers.

But its expected for masli to scan if he is loosing against a ? that no other general would play (by joining a classic etc...)

[Bruceswar]

Here come all the KORT members to the defence of the biggest cheater on CC! Look at the facts, i have and it is purely a case of abuse by masli, period. I think he stepped down because he knew where the investigation was headed. He joined 2 games against the same guy SandForBrains. In these games he was risking around 80 points if he lost. The kicker was in both games he joined was on ALL YOUR BASES BELONG TO US. masli is now 2 for 2 on that map, SO he joined those games on a map he had never played? LOL simple, he knew he was not going to lose before he did it, or why else would he join against a private multiple times, on a map he had NEVER played. That is just one of many similar cases when it comes to masli. So he stripped some of my clan members medals for no reason, yet he abuses a major infraction according to the written rules? He deserves a vacation, period. Have a happy new year everyone.

I said I would not respond.... but this one deserves a response. First off when I am trying to learn a map I sometimes look for weaker people so I can make mistakes and have a chance to win still. I am sure masli was doing the same. The rest of your post is baseless and you are just bitter about the medal ordeal. Move on already please.

[Night Strike]

Cannot bust someone for a vague rule that is not clearly defined. Eddie if this isnt what you are talking about please be clear and specific.

I bet your ass the mods can! Look for my clan medal win against IA. You wont find it and I didn't break a rule that wasn't clearly defined. All you can shut your pie hole about cant bust people for rules that aren't clear. BS! They did it to us and better do it to Masli for his gross abuse of the system! Oh and to the mod that said all disciplinary actions are for warned in another thread about this same topic, BS! Find my warning and the rest the warnings for the rest of the clan that lost medals before action was taken. CC is a good old boy group and we (the paying customers, except the ass kissers) aren't part of the group.

I think I can recall someone making a comment about there being several members of The Pack coming out in this case simply because they wanted retribution for not receiving clan medals. I think this proves my point.

[grifftron]

I will make one post on this topic then leave it alone. Anybody who knows Masli at all knows he is by the books all the time. To say he tried to cheat the system is absurd. You guys might all wonder why Masli has not said anything. It is something called holidays. He has been out till today only to find his inbox with lots of PM's and BS on the forums. Masli was the best multi hunter bar none. No offense to anybody else on the team but he was by far the best. Even before he was a hunter he was busting people all the time. As one who has been around Masli for some time and known him to bust tons of people. Yes he will even bust a friend if he has to. JustB comes to mind. Point is all of you want to presume he is guilty before he even speaks one word. Personally I do not blame Masli for stepping down and not dealing with unneeded BS in his life. Life is too short to deal with false reports and assumptions made by people who know nothing about him. Numbers can be turned anyway you like. If you really think masli was after a few points you are all sorely mistaken. Masli did not care about the points at this time in his cc career. Did masli want to win? sure he did. Did masli love busting multis. Ofc... maybe even more than playing the game. It is a shame to see one of the CC greats go like this. And by like this I mean pushed out before he had a chance to speak. To all you haters out there, you win. At least in yours eyes. To the people who really know Masli they know what he did and did not do, as does he. Masli did more for CC than many of you will know. Everything from multi hunting to clan work, to live chat modding. He was just the ultimate CC person and a good guy. For Shame.

Damn right he was the best MH!!!

Yeah, i heard he busted the most 1 on 1 multis in the history of CC...

He was so good he joined 3 games of 1 player, found out he was a multi and busted him in all 3 games! it was epic...

Come on bruce, I know you know masli personally and talk with him on skype daily but even if he was "by the book" kind of guy, there was no possible way for him to have this in his mind that he can get points and bust multis at the same time? He honestly could of thought that it wasn't against the rules as he was doing his "job" and it wasn't in the rules, but this is just straight out abuse bro... like it or not, know him personally or not, its just wrong

[QoH]

Cannot bust someone for a vague rule that is not clearly defined. Eddie if this isnt what you are talking about please be clear and specific.

I bet your ass the mods can! Look for my clan medal win against IA. You wont find it and I didn't break a rule that wasn't clearly defined. All you can shut your pie hole about cant bust people for rules that aren't clear. BS! They did it to us and better do it to Masli for his gross abuse of the system! Oh and to the mod that said all disciplinary actions are for warned in another thread about this same topic, BS! Find my warning and the rest the warnings for the rest of the clan that lost medals before action was taken. CC is a good old boy group and we (the paying customers, except the ass kissers) aren't part of the group.

I think I can recall someone making a comment about there being several members of The Pack coming out in this case simply because they wanted retribution for not receiving clan medals. I think this proves my point.

he's just using it as an example...

[Great-Ollie]

Here come all the KORT members to the defence of the biggest cheater on CC! Look at the facts, i have and it is purely a case of abuse by masli, period. I think he stepped down because he knew where the investigation was headed. He joined 2 games against the same guy SandForBrains. In these games he was risking around 80 points if he lost. The kicker was in both games he joined was on ALL YOUR BASES BELONG TO US. masli is now 2 for 2 on that map, SO he joined those games on a map he had never played? LOL simple, he knew he was not going to lose before he did it, or why else would he join against a private multiple times, on a map he had NEVER played. That is just one of many similar cases when it comes to masli. So he stripped some of my clan members medals for no reason, yet he abuses a major infraction according to the written rules? He deserves a vacation, period. Have a happy new year everyone.

I said I would not respond.... but this one deserves a response. First off when I am trying to learn a map I sometimes look for weaker people so I can make mistakes and have a chance to win still. I am sure masli was doing the same. The rest of your post is baseless and you are just bitter about the medal ordeal. Move on already please.

Yes we are very bitter because masli handled everything very unprofessional and still cannot provide any answers why certain members had medals stripped. He was in my mind very bad at being a clan mod period. All we wanted was a response and we got nothing, King Achilles is now looking into this and we may get answers, and hopefully medals soon. masli and chemefreak are dirty and sneaky, and all the old guard keep defending them breaking the rules and their mod positions duties.

[John Deere]

Good post Bruce, tho I don't think anyone is a "hater" or dislikes Masli. Maybe the odd post came over strong. But you have totally missed the point.

Still one question - how many games have you played in when the opponent(s) got busted for multi?

My score is 1. What's yours? Masli appeared to be hitting 40%

Your just not as good at finding multis to join games with I hear there is a position open where you can get the skills to find these multis.......

[John Deere]

Cannot bust someone for a vague rule that is not clearly defined. Eddie if this isnt what you are talking about please be clear and specific.

I bet your ass the mods can! Look for my clan medal win against IA. You wont find it and I didn't break a rule that wasn't clearly defined. All you can shut your pie hole about cant bust people for rules that aren't clear. BS! They did it to us and better do it to Masli for his gross abuse of the system! Oh and to the mod that said all disciplinary actions are for warned in another thread about this same topic, BS! Find my warning and the rest the warnings for the rest of the clan that lost medals before action was taken. CC is a good old boy group and we (the paying customers, except the ass kissers) aren't part of the group.

I think I can recall someone making a comment about there being several members of The Pack coming out in this case simply because they wanted retribution for not receiving clan medals. I think this proves my point.

but can you counter my point? Didnt think so, neither can any other mod! At least one crooked mod is gone!

[Bruceswar]

Here come all the KORT members to the defence of the biggest cheater on CC! Look at the facts, i have and it is purely a case of abuse by masli, period. I think he stepped down because he knew where the investigation was headed. He joined 2 games against the same guy SandForBrains. In these games he was risking around 80 points if he lost. The kicker was in both games he joined was on ALL YOUR BASES BELONG TO US. masli is now 2 for 2 on that map, SO he joined those games on a map he had never played? LOL simple, he knew he was not going to lose before he did it, or why else would he join against a private multiple times, on a map he had NEVER played. That is just one of many similar cases when it comes to masli. So he stripped some of my clan members medals for no reason, yet he abuses a major infraction according to the written rules? He deserves a vacation, period. Have a happy new year everyone.

I said I would not respond.... but this one deserves a response. First off when I am trying to learn a map I sometimes look for weaker people so I can make mistakes and have a chance to win still. I am sure masli was doing the same. The rest of your post is baseless and you are just bitter about the medal ordeal. Move on already please.

Yes we are very bitter because masli handled everything very unprofessional and still cannot provide any answers why certain members had medals stripped. He was in my mind very bad at being a clan mod period. All we wanted was a response and we got nothing, King Achilles is now looking into this and we may get answers, and hopefully medals soon. masli and chemefreak are dirty and sneaky, and all the old guard keep defending them breaking the rules and their mod positions duties.

Case in point. Game over and thank you for proving my point.

[John Deere]

Here come all the KORT members to the defence of the biggest cheater on CC! Look at the facts, i have and it is purely a case of abuse by masli, period. I think he stepped down because he knew where the investigation was headed. He joined 2 games against the same guy SandForBrains. In these games he was risking around 80 points if he lost. The kicker was in both games he joined was on ALL YOUR BASES BELONG TO US. masli is now 2 for 2 on that map, SO he joined those games on a map he had never played? LOL simple, he knew he was not going to lose before he did it, or why else would he join against a private multiple times, on a map he had NEVER played. That is just one of many similar cases when it comes to masli. So he stripped some of my clan members medals for no reason, yet he abuses a major infraction according to the written rules? He deserves a vacation, period. Have a happy new year everyone.

I said I would not respond.... but this one deserves a response. First off when I am trying to learn a map I sometimes look for weaker people so I can make mistakes and have a chance to win still. I am sure masli was doing the same. The rest of your post is baseless and you are just bitter about the medal ordeal. Move on already please.

Yes we are very bitter because masli handled everything very unprofessional and still cannot provide any answers why certain members had medals stripped. He was in my mind very bad at being a clan mod period. All we wanted was a response and we got nothing, King Achilles is now looking into this and we may get answers, and hopefully medals soon. masli and chemefreak are dirty and sneaky, and all the old guard keep defending them breaking the rules and their mod positions duties.

Case in point. Game over and thank you for proving my point.

Bruce i think you are a great guy, but you cant deny the FACT that our clan medal was mishandled and that this whole case looks way to suspicious for all of us to just think it was an accident that masli joined so many games (in a row) with multis, please dont insult us. I know you two are friends. I would take up for a friend also but im not gonna call someone else out for it. If you where in our situation what would you do different? We are only stating facts! Yes we are persistent but not like we are making things up to get our point across.

[Night Strike]

Cannot bust someone for a vague rule that is not clearly defined. Eddie if this isnt what you are talking about please be clear and specific.

I bet your ass the mods can! Look for my clan medal win against IA. You wont find it and I didn't break a rule that wasn't clearly defined. All you can shut your pie hole about cant bust people for rules that aren't clear. BS! They did it to us and better do it to Masli for his gross abuse of the system! Oh and to the mod that said all disciplinary actions are for warned in another thread about this same topic, BS! Find my warning and the rest the warnings for the rest of the clan that lost medals before action was taken. CC is a good old boy group and we (the paying customers, except the ass kissers) aren't part of the group.

I think I can recall someone making a comment about there being several members of The Pack coming out in this case simply because they wanted retribution for not receiving clan medals. I think this proves my point.

but can you counter my point? Didnt think so, neither can any other mod! At least one crooked mod is gone!

I thought your point had already been countered so much that it was now considered to be beating a dead horse? Since you didn't learn previously, I guess it must be re-explained. The Clan Directors put in a rule that in order to receive medals for winning clan wars, the players must behave in a respectable manner in the thread. Members of your clan was warned that your behavior was crossing the line (you know, that warning you say you never received), yet excessive trash continued. Then when medals were withheld (never stripped, which implies you had already received them), you all threw a hissy fit and were apparently just looking for an opportunity to get revenge.

By the way, a little clan medal is absolutely nothing compared to the points resets and permabans some of the people in this thread were wanting. You only get those things after warnings. Clan medals follow set polices, which doesn't even include the prior warning that they kindly did decide to give.

[jj3044]

Got to say, this is some good drama. I'm riveted. You fellas should start your own CC soap opera!

[merch313]

Ok Pack.... I like all you guys.. But there was no abuse of power... He checked everyone he played against. He played lots of games... He busted people in his own clan.... Medal thing I think was wrong but this is different. Mas was a stand up guy and now his name is being tainted but people and their conspiracies.... Whats done is done....Now this is done no need to keep bringing up old shit.. He was doing his job. Only thing I can see that would help this is if MH's are not allowed to play. We all know there are tons of Multi's out there he just happend to bust lots of them.

[tec805]

Got to say, this is some good drama. I'm riveted. You fellas should start your own CC soap opera!

Wait, this isn't a telenovela?!?!?!? Damn, now I gotta put my popcorn back

[nippersean]

Ok Pack.... I like all you guys.. But there was no abuse of power... He checked everyone he played against. He played lots of games... He busted people in his own clan.... Medal thing I think was wrong but this is different. Mas was a stand up guy and now his name is being tainted but people and their conspiracies.... Whats done is done....Now this is done no need to keep bringing up old shit.. He was doing his job. Only thing I can see that would help this is if MH's are not allowed to play. We all know there are tons of Multi's out there he just happend to bust lots of them.

just lol - how many multis got busted whilst you been playing them merch??

[owenshooter]

Ok Pack.... I like all you guys.. But there was no abuse of power... He checked everyone he played against. He played lots of games...

please show me any other member with over 30 wins via multi busts. i believe i have had ONE bust in all my games... ONE... abuse, period. someone said his 1v1 win rate via busts is 40%!!! that is insane!-el Jesus negro

[demonfork]

How do we know that he didn't check to see if they were multis before he joined their games? It seems pretty suspect that he just happened to join so many games against multis.

[Night Strike]

How do we know that he didn't check to see if they were multis before he joined their games? It seems pretty suspect that he just happened to join so many games against multis.

I'm betting the admins have time indicators on any actions taken in their tools. I know I see plenty of them in the tools I use.

[drunkmonkey]

Ok Pack.... I like all you guys.. But there was no abuse of power... He checked everyone he played against. He played lots of games...

please show me any other member with over 30 wins via multi busts. i believe i have had ONE bust in all my games... ONE... abuse, period. someone said his 1v1 win rate via busts is 40%!!! that is insane!-el Jesus negro

Holy crap...that's 1140 games! How was this not caught sooner???

[John Deere]

I thought your point had already been countered so much that it was now considered to be beating a dead horse? Since you didn't learn previously, I guess it must be re-explained. The Clan Directors put in a rule that in order to receive medals for winning clan wars, the players must behave in a respectable manner in the thread. Members of your clan was warned that your behavior was crossing the line (you know, that warning you say you never received), yet excessive trash continued. Then when medals were withheld (never stripped, which implies you had already received them), you all threw a hissy fit and were apparently just looking for an opportunity to get revenge.

By the way, a little clan medal is absolutely nothing compared to the points resets and permabans some of the people in this thread were wanting. You only get those things after warnings. Clan medals follow set polices, which doesn't even include the prior warning that they kindly did decide to give.

No my point HAS NEVER BEEN ADDRESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!We have never got reasons for each of us loosing our medal. We were warned, we were told our (some of ours) post were border line but not quit or else, or any such, but hey this thread is about a cheating mod so lets stick to that subject, and hey let act stupid and not act like the obvious isn't obvious!

[nietzsche]

I think more people need to be aware of this:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=160923&p=3520042#p3519679

Masli is getting away with it. king achilles is favoring over other players effort.

[TeeGee]

Merged..

Please keep it to a single thread

[nietzsche]

Merged..

Please keep it to a single thread

No thanks, some people might not read long threads because they think they can't catch up with what's going on. I'd like the new thread separated please.