The lose switch has been flipped again

by **blackgoblin** on Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:50 pm

Phew so that means my brain is working lol

by **Dukasaur** on Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:58 pm

JESKIER wrote:Why don't everyone see, that this game, this site is just a con. I am now in my 6th decline, I go up nicely, win games, earn points and get promotions, then suddenly, right on time, that conquer club switch is pressed and guess what, I start to lose games, lose points and get demoted. Its not even staggered, it is a simple pattern that emerges.

Like the sands in an hourglass, these are the days of our lives.... :roll:

by **BigBallinStalin** on Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:55 pm

natty_dread wrote:
lord of the frys wrote:and I dont think its on purpose, its just the software doing its thing, and the very high ranked people are, great players, lucky dice, and have figured out the pattern to a point... IE they know when to play 2 player and multiplayer games based on there repeated wins and losses.....and how to set up there games.

Nope, that's not it.

I challenge anyone, high or low rank, to predict their dice rolls. If the dice follow a pattern, why are you not taking advantage of it? Why not capitalize on it?

The thing is, the human brain is built to look for patterns. Our brains are desperately trying to impose patterns on things that don't have one, since our brain can't really handle randomness. Additionally, when you present a human with any kind of random sequence of numbers, it's 99% certain he can find some kind of pattern in them. It's just the way our brain works.

Further reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamblers_fallacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_of_control

Yeah right. You're just part of some pattern of head-honcho guys smoking cigars in a smoke-filled room while receiving advice from the Dice Gods on how to deceive us ConquerClubbers.

_____________________________

EDIT: When did url links become automatically [url]'ed without the use of the [url]___[/url] command???

WHAT IS THIS WITCHCRAFT?!?!!

by **lord of the frys** on Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:38 am

I think you need to read, I said the dice are random, WOW and I think the cards are a pattern.

I agree to a point on the pattern, dice are random generated, its not the dice....in 2 player games its the cards....win some the when you start loosing , its because you cant trade cards till 5....and not just a couple of games.....its like 20 out of 25...ive seen this happen at least a dozen times...now you may say dont play 2 player games with cards...in that case the game is based on placement, and there again...it goes to the other person....it is a pattern.....kinda like an old pacman game.

its a thought and dont care what anyone thinks
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by **blackgoblin** on Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:41 am

The problem is the computer generated dice are not random. A computer can try to simulate a random number, but can never be random. Using pye can simulate a random number sequence. That is why we are all at 3.5 or there abouts. cc try to make it fair. A true random set of dice could possibly give us all sixes all of the time. As true dice are not loaded they will follow the law of averages because they are not biased to any particular number. We all know you could throw ten sixes in a row but how often does it happen? Chance or predicting odds is different to seeing patterns of the past. Yes we recognise patterns and tend to remember the wins rather than the losses. The patterns on cc dice will try to simulate but will always be different to actual throws of real dice?

by **lord of the frys** on Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:06 am

That is true but there again, i'm talking more on the line of cards not dice

by **Dukasaur** on Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:54 am

blackgoblin wrote:The problem is the computer generated dice are not random. A computer can try to simulate a random number, but can never be random. Using pye can simulate a random number sequence. That is why we are all at 3.5 or there abouts. cc try to make it fair. A true random set of dice could possibly give us all sixes all of the time. As true dice are not loaded they will follow the law of averages because they are not biased to any particular number. We all know you could throw ten sixes in a row but how often does it happen? Chance or predicting odds is different to seeing patterns of the past. Yes we recognise patterns and tend to remember the wins rather than the losses. The patterns on cc dice will try to simulate but will always be different to actual throws of real dice?

This is not pseudorandom computer-generated numbers. The dice are batched from random.org, which uses atmospheric noise. About as close to random as you can get.

by **blackgoblin** on Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:16 am

atmospheric noise is consistant and unpredictable not random. How can it be random when the outcome stays the same 3.5? Lotteries use a randon sequence of ball selection not atmospheric noise.

by **blackgoblin** on Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:17 am

'Random'

by **lord of the frys** on Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:43 am

atmospheric noise, ? ok sounds like a rock group, but still does not explain pattern of cards...

by **lord of the frys** on Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:05 pm

yes win all day...then bad dice and cant trade cards till 5.......... is a switch alright ..I AGREE

by **ask me2** on Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:59 pm

Just what we need, another thread of people complaining about the dice.

by **natty dread** on Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:36 am

blackgoblin wrote:atmospheric noise is consistant and unpredictable not random. How can it be random when the outcome stays the same 3.5? Lotteries use a randon sequence of ball selection not atmospheric noise.

Do you know what "atmospheric noise" means? Contrary to what the name would imply, it's not sounds you hear if you climb up high in the air. It's actually radio waves, born from atmospheric processes such as lightning storms. It's very much random.

The average outcome stays the same, because the more random numbers you get, the closer the average gets to the expected average. That's simple statistics.

by **lord of the frys** on Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:48 am

lol, not complaining, I'm agreeing with the first person.
but here again opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

by **natty dread** on Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:40 am

People who complain about dice just plain suck at the game.

by **lord of the frys** on Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:43 pm

Major Command another risk site....without the switch hahahahahahahaha

by **lord of the frys** on Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:15 pm

people that dont believe it happens, suck worse..lol

by **natty dread** on Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:13 am

There you have it, folks... we suck worse.

Ouch.

by **CHEWKY** on Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:07 am

I hear you man! Do I ever hear you!

Premium memberships will decline when enough people who get screwed over continuously get sick of it and move on! :evil:

For example: DISADVANTAGED to the start of every single game! Dice rolls are sicker than ever! :oops:

Cash in on cards is always the maximum, auto position? HA! totally controlled and is a joke! :sick:

All opponents gain the advantage at start on at first roll, since I go 2nd 99% of the time. :roll:

Conqueer Club makes sure that specific players NEVER get ahead! :evil:

No Problem, that is exactly why I don't pay to play on this gimicky game site!

by **Commander62890** on Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:20 am

CHEWKY wrote:Conqueer Club makes sure that specific players NEVER get ahead!

How does Conqueer Club decide which players NEVER get ahead? Is it random?

by **AndyDufresne** on Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:44 am

Commander62890 wrote:
CHEWKY wrote:Conqueer Club makes sure that specific players NEVER get ahead!

How does Conqueer Club decide which players NEVER get ahead? Is it random?

I must've been tagged from an early get go, since I've rarely made it above my current score.

--Andy

by **trinicardinal** on Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:48 am

What I love about these threads is that somehow people lose... but no one seems to win. I could have sworn that with each game there was a winner... seems I was mistaken.

by **trinicardinal** on Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:49 am

AndyDufresne wrote:
Commander62890 wrote:
CHEWKY wrote:Conqueer Club makes sure that specific players NEVER get ahead!

How does Conqueer Club decide which players NEVER get ahead? Is it random?

I must've been tagged from an early get go, since I've rarely made it above my current score.

--Andy

Andy, in your case, you got the banana tree instead of the winner tag :-$