Game of Thrones Night 3: The King's Hand, Justice and Guard

by **Victor Sullivan** on Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:13 pm

pancakemix wrote:If you'd like, I can give you BG's flavor name.

Sure.

-Sully

by **kwanton** on Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:44 pm

BG i consider this stalling which is very scummy. If you don't claim by the end of the day I will go back on what I said before and vig you. Not claiming is only preventing the town from deciding who is scum and who is not. A mass claim only works if EVERYONE claims.

Claim or be vigged. If you live then everyone should know he's the GF.

by **edocsil** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:28 am

kwanton wrote:BG i consider this stalling which is very scummy. If you don't claim by the end of the day I will go back on what I said before and vig you. Not claiming is only preventing the town from deciding who is scum and who is not. A mass claim only works if EVERYONE claims.

Claim or be vigged. If you live then everyone should know he's the GF.

Exactly. You will tell us who you are or we will hang you because we assume you are pulling some sort of trick. Frankly, with what seems to be all the town power on the board already I see you stalling as a surefire sign of mafia. We are not kidding when we say that you will not see tomorrow if you do not claim.

PCM, if you can tell us his role, please wait till he claims/decides to give us the finger. It is possible we can catch him in a lie.

by **edocsil** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:54 am

So, the list of the good guys, their characters have a viewpoint in the scenes, barring bastard modding *glares* that should mean they are actually in the game.

Haggis
Mr. Squirrel
edocsil
bleed_green
kwanton
rodion

Uncertain roles, no direct scene least scummy claim at the top, scummiest at the bottom.

/
strikewolf
Victor Sullivan
Pancake
bgthebrain

So, we have 5 that we are uncertain of.

/ has the strongest claim IMO, he is one of the last of the Stark family. If he is telling the truth he could be very useful. I wouldn't vig him.

Strike's claim would be one that I would hand out as a fake personally, its good enough to be believed, but still a more minor character. That being said, no scum vibes. I don't THINK I would vig him.

VS, claimed early on, really minor character, might have a bigger role next season. Hasn't been terribly active, but that isn't unusual for VS. I would Vig him if we lynch a scum today.

PCM. Honestly, I have no idea why that character would be in there or how he could possible know who BG is. I would vig him, barring something changing my mind.

BG. I would hang him currently, there isn't anyone he could claim that I would really consider to be true. Unvote Vote BG He was desperately stalling and seems to think he is innocent on investigation. He has a bad fake whatever it is and he is the godfather. He also apparently has ties to PCM, the next scummiest IMO. His death and alignment could Condem/Save PCM IMO.

by **Haggis_McMutton** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:19 am

/agree

The apparent link between him and PCM is weird as well.

unvote vote BG

Claim time.

by **BGtheBrain** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:46 am

by **Mr. Squirrel** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:51 am

Well, if both BG and PCM are telling the truth, then that is a very tenuous connection between those two characters. Loras Tyrell is a very minor character in the first book. He has maybe one or two scenes at most. Renly has a more believable claim, but I'm not sure why he would be masons with Loras. Renly later in the series marries Loras' sister, but during Game of Thrones they have almost no connection.

Unless the two of them could explain why those two characters are masoned, then I would say we have our lynch targets.

by **pancakemix** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:00 am

How abut this instead: I'm the one who gave edoc a kill last night.

by **edocsil** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:23 am

pancakemix wrote:How abut this instead: I'm the one who gave edoc a kill last night.

Well, that would be something to change my mind. Shit. The flavor of a "handsome man" fits. Renly Baratheon was always portrayed as "pretty". Unvote

Mr. Squirrel wrote:Well, if both BG and PCM are telling the truth, then that is a very tenuous connection between those two characters. Loras Tyrell is a very minor character in the first book. He has maybe one or two scenes at most. Renly has a more believable claim, but I'm not sure why he would be masons with Loras. Renly later in the series marries Loras' sister, but during Game of Thrones they have almost no connection.

Unless the two of them could explain why those two characters are masoned, then I would say we have our lynch targets.

Well, they ARE lovers...

Well that leaves us with Victor, / and Strike with unconfirmed characters. Who do we pick?

by **Mr. Squirrel** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:53 am

edocsil wrote:Well, they ARE lovers...

eh?

by **Haggis_McMutton** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:05 am

Mr. Squirrel wrote:
edocsil wrote:Well, they ARE lovers...

eh?

scene from series

I'm not exactly sure what to make of this. I could see a scum/town mason pairing.

I also agree that strike's role is the type I might give out as a fake claim. on the other hand the obvious safe bet for today's lynch is Victor, what with all the miller/hated townie discussion.

hmm ...

by **edocsil** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:39 am

Oh, and PCM can you give me a kill again?

by **pancakemix** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:41 am

edocsil wrote:Oh, and PCM can you give me a kill again?

Depends: how confident are you? Miss and I lose my vote, as does BG.

by **edocsil** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:42 pm

Do you lose your vote if I fail to kill, or if I fail to kill scum? What happens if you give it to me and I do nothing? Do you still lose your vote?

by **Rodion** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:56 pm

Guys, if you lynch scum, can you refrain from any vig kills until we narrow the player pool down to 6 players? I want to win as well...

by **Mr. Squirrel** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:29 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Mr. Squirrel wrote:
edocsil wrote:Well, they ARE lovers...

eh?

scene from series

I'm not exactly sure what to make of this. I could see a scum/town mason pairing.

I also agree that strike's role is the type I might give out as a fake claim. on the other hand the obvious safe bet for today's lynch is Victor, what with all the miller/hated townie discussion.

hmm ...

That's.... interesting.....

I hadn't known that Renly and Loras were lovers, but now that it is brought up, it does make sense. That scene never happened in the books. There are only strong hints toward his homosexuality.

by **strike wolf** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:43 pm

Well from my angle either / and victor are the remaining scum or mafia has a great fake claim mixed in. On that note I am ok with a victor lynch, I just need to know the vote count before I actually vote.

by **kwanton** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:09 pm

I'm ok with the VS lynch too. The whole situation surrounding his claim seems fishy.

by **Rodion** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:27 pm

I'll be throwing my vote on whatever wagon people ask me to with 2 things worth noticing:
a) I'm not casting the hammer vote in case there is an unclaimed SS/bomb
b) if we hit mafia, everyone that can vig (or award someone else a vig action) refrains from firing (I won't win if I survive with 8-9 players remaining) AND tomorrow we ask one of the unconfirmed townies to volunteer themselves for a mislynch. It will not be hard for town to win when it has Haggis + Kwanton cleared by claims and Edoc + PCM cleared by investigations + BG cleared for masonry with PCM. That means that the mislynch of an unconfirmed townie I'm willing to ask for if we enter D4 with 1 more dead mafia is barely going to interfere with town's WC.

by **Victor Sullivan** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:30 pm

See, this is why I claimed earlier. But alas, it seems to have not made a difference. Before you lynch, I have a question and a follow-up comment.

Question: Where's the doc?

Victor Sullivan wrote:With so many NKs I'd be surprised if there wasn't a doc or bulletproof.

-Sully

-Sully

by / on Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:39 pm

edocsil wrote:
Humh. I don't know if I believe this one. You should have told us who Jonty was D2, it would have completely confirmed his story.

Wait a little longer than 48 hours to complete a lynch and perhaps I'll make it...

by **pancakemix** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:37 pm

edocsil wrote:Do you lose your vote if I fail to kill, or if I fail to kill scum? What happens if you give it to me and I do nothing? Do you still lose your vote?

I only get to keep it if you hit scum. Otherwise I lose it, even if you don't fire.

by **strike wolf** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:41 pm

In that case it sounds best to leave any vigging up to the resident Stark. I'm guessing since no one died night 1 that couldn't be linked to mafia or the SK, you didn't give it to anyone N1 which means you aren't forced to give it to anyone.

by **kwanton** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:09 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:See, this is why I claimed earlier. But alas, it seems to have not made a difference. Before you lynch, I have a question and a follow-up comment.

Question: Where's the doc?
Victor Sullivan wrote:With so many NKs I'd be surprised if there wasn't a doc or bulletproof.

-Sully

-Sully

This just seems like rolefishing.

If you want to live then reveal everything about your role while keeping by the no quoting rule. And I mean everything. Flavor details. What role powers you have. Now.

Let me make it really simple and clear so there's no misunderstanding. The reason why you are the target of suspicion right no is the fact that you claimed randomly and still didn't reveal ANYTHING relevant about your role. If you don't want to be lynched or NK'd then reveal EVERYTHING in your role PM (don't quote) CLEARLY.

That means no vague posts like this:

Victor Sullivan wrote:It was beneficial to me when I did so to do so.

-Sully

Or this:

Victor Sullivan wrote:*Sigh* I imagine you'll find out soon enough.

-Sully

WHEN YOU SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY OR NO ONE WILL UNDERSTAND YOU!

Be clear with your explanation of you role or die.

And I'd also like to suggest we do not lynch him. I want to NK him in case he's a jester or bomb and trying to draw a lynch (bomb's only explode if lynched right?)

by **strike wolf** on Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:16 pm

bombs kill the hammerer or the person who targets him. Considering the role he claimed I would think it is unlikely he would be a bomb and I doubt a jester would be in the game period.

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