Pokemon Endgame: Mafia Victory + jonty

by **naxus** on Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:30 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:(I still think Rodion is a SCUMZOR)

-Sully

Why?

by **freezie** on Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:25 pm

Unvote

Vote: Nagerous

His overall actions have tripped my scum radar more than once, but as far as backing up my accusations with numerous posts..I can, but It's overall mostly cause I doubt nagerous more than him saying something scummy.

To the new guy..Yea, voting no lynch is RARELY a good thing for town and you need a seriously good reason to suggest that. In this game, the setup is many players can be recruited and there is a few recruiters, both pro-town and anti-town, as far as we know.

If you weren't new, I would have voted you for suggesting no lynch here, no questions asked. We need a lynch whatsoever..and I suggest Nagerous as, like I said, don't trust him, at all. His overall agressiveness in this game is why.

by **Rodion** on Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:47 pm

Only way to get a lynch with the deadline so close is to hop on the biggest wagon (and then hope other people do the same).

I also found him somewhat suspicious since D1 (when he voted Jonty with a poor reasoning) and by attacking BG now (even though the idea of a no lynch is not really good) it just looks like he wants to prey on newbies to get lynches going his way.

Vote Nagerous.

by **shieldgenerator7** on Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:31 pm

I'll follow this bandwagon on nag just so town doesn't lose a lynch today.
unvote vote nag

by **jimfinn** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:08 am

Can't say I like the nagerous case too much, but there's not really time for another one.

Vote:nagerous

by **nagerous** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:50 am

Wow, slow down...

I am ash, recruiting mason. I have 2 pokemons right now, who I won't name and I started as a mason with kratos, he was my pikachu.

A lot of scum clearly on this wagon, a few of you seem really suss for sure.

by **nagerous** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:51 am

I'm guessing I touched a nerve somewhere, when I voted BG, the vote on him stays.

by **jonty125** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:52 am

nagerous wrote:I'm guessing I touched a nerve somewhere, when I voted BG, the vote on him stays.

There is a Bandwagon on you for voting bg (I know there are other reasons), and your not willing to back down :-s

by **Rodion** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:37 am

nagerous wrote:Wow, slow down...

I am ash, recruiting mason. I have 2 pokemons right now, who I won't name and I started as a mason with kratos, he was my pikachu.

A lot of scum clearly on this wagon, a few of you seem really suss for sure.

Unvote.

But you need to confirm whether Victor Sullivan is pro-town or not (mafia already knows that, why not give the knowledge to town as well?).

by **BGtheBrain** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:25 pm

by **nagerous** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:03 pm

Rodion wrote:
nagerous wrote:Wow, slow down...

I am ash, recruiting mason. I have 2 pokemons right now, who I won't name and I started as a mason with kratos, he was my pikachu.

A lot of scum clearly on this wagon, a few of you seem really suss for sure.

Unvote.

But you need to confirm whether Victor Sullivan is pro-town or not (mafia already knows that, why not give the knowledge to town as well?).

Now that is just fishing for information that might influence the night kill. I am certainly under no obligation to impart that information upon the town, if I were to know what Victor's allignment at this stage. He is not under pressure so I see no reason to share who are my pokemon etc.

BGtheBrain wrote:Deadline is today, right? Someone needs to be lynched.

Jumping around much? The previous page you were encouraging a no lynch. Make up your mind! I also note you don't unvote me, can you stop acting so damn scummy please and I might unvote you, sir.

jonty125 wrote:
nagerous wrote:I'm guessing I touched a nerve somewhere, when I voted BG, the vote on him stays.

There is a Bandwagon on you for voting bg (I know there are other reasons), and your not willing to back down

So your reason for voting me is that I voted BG and didn't back down? Why would I vote down, he immediately response voted me after voting a no lynch, why would I back down?

BG looks like the best lynch for today, I see no better leads right now, his actions so far were to vote no lynch, then vote someone who called him out on this ridiculously scummy action and finally stating 'we need a lynch' and not unvoting Ash, the pro-town hero and also showing a massive contradiction in his actions. His predecessor commander kept a very low profile, I think he would have more active in discussion and scum hunting had he been a member of the town.

by **nagerous** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:05 pm

freezie wrote:
If you weren't new, I would have voted you for suggesting no lynch here, no questions asked. We need a lynch whatsoever..and I suggest Nagerous as, like I said, don't trust him, at all. His overall agressiveness in this game is why.

I am not being aggressive, I am actually trying to search for leads as I am TRYING TO BUILD LEADS. That is more than can be said for most the submarining cult leaders who are trying to kill the day.

by **jonty125** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:25 pm

nagerous wrote:So your reason for voting me is that I voted BG and didn't back down? Why would I vote down, he immediately response voted me after voting a no lynch, why would I back down?

I haven't voted you

by **nagerous** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:28 pm

jonty125 wrote:
nagerous wrote:So your reason for voting me is that I voted BG and didn't back down? Why would I vote down, he immediately response voted me after voting a no lynch, why would I back down?

I haven't voted you

Sorry about that, there was just such a collective action against me, I presumed you were on it too. What are your views on the case against BG?

by **BGtheBrain** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:28 pm

by **nagerous** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:33 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:My original no lynch vote was based on lack of information.

I had no idea who to vote for or why, so I figured instead of voting misinformed, I would just not vote.

When you quickly called me out and voted for me, like I said, this was a very scummy move trying to get an easy target out of the way.

So far you have been unhappy with my first 'no lynch'
Then you were unahappy with my vote for you.
Now you're mad because I am "jumping around."
I can't win with you.

My comment was made bc the lack of activity would lead to a no lynching which is the exact thing you told me I am trying to avoid.

I won't unvote bc like you explained, any lynch is better than no lynch

I did not actually say any lynch is better than no lynch, that is a blatent twisting of my words. You don't just keep a vote on a power role through some odd and confused reasoning that you seem to have taken from my words. The fact that you do not unvote me after I claim the main power role just digs a further hole for yourself. Voting no lynch because of lack of information is always scummy and that was not even the case here, there is a whole host of information on the previous pages, which I am sure you didn't bother reading.

I was unhappy with your no lynch clearly and now I am unhappy with your retaliation vote on me when I called you up on it. It isn't a case of not being able to win with me, do you really think I would find your retaliation vote not scummy? Did you really think I would think, oh this guy has a good case on me, he has just shown he must be a townsmember.

I have provided you with a solid claim after you got your minions to join in on the wagon, yet you consistently maintain a vote on me. Can you not comprehend how this may be construed as scummy in my eyes.

Anyway, continue to dig, dig, dig. It is amusing for me.

by **BGtheBrain** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:34 pm

by **jonty125** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:41 pm

nagerous wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
nagerous wrote:So your reason for voting me is that I voted BG and didn't back down? Why would I vote down, he immediately response voted me after voting a no lynch, why would I back down?

I haven't voted you

Sorry about that, there was just such a collective action against me, I presumed you were on it too. What are your views on the case against BG?

He's a bit of a newbie like myself, and I got a bit of breathing space in previous games so I'm giving him that chance. Voting the noob did seem harsh but not vote worthy. About being aggressive, well I don't think I've played with you before (apart from Mafia Mafia with VS), so I assumed itwas your playing style (attack the scum till they blow their cover)

by **Rodion** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:55 pm

nagerous wrote:
Rodion wrote:
nagerous wrote:Wow, slow down...

I am ash, recruiting mason. I have 2 pokemons right now, who I won't name and I started as a mason with kratos, he was my pikachu.

A lot of scum clearly on this wagon, a few of you seem really suss for sure.

Unvote.

But you need to confirm whether Victor Sullivan is pro-town or not (mafia already knows that, why not give the knowledge to town as well?).

Now that is just fishing for information that might influence the night kill. I am certainly under no obligation to impart that information upon the town, if I were to know what Victor's allignment at this stage. He is not under pressure so I see no reason to share who are my pokemon etc.

Not at all, Nag. If there is a town recruiter and a mafia recruiter, the mafia already knows whether Charizard is town or mafia ("did they target Charizard, did the mod confirm him that they succesfully recruited Charizard?"). You also know whether Charizard is town or mafia, I was just asking you to share it with the rest of the town, as the mafia already knows it. If you are the town recruiter and we have sufficient evidence to assume Charizard was recruited and you didn't vote on him after claiming Ash, I'll just assume he's one of your 2 pokémon (if he's not, you should have lead a case against him, which you didn't).

by **nagerous** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:31 pm

I don't see it that way, the more you talk about him, the more you make him a target for the night kill. I am under no obligation to name my pokemon or reveal their identities.

by **jonty125** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:41 pm

nagerous wrote:I don't see it that way, the more you talk about him, the more you make him a target for the night kill. I am under no obligation to name my pokemon or reveal their identities.

Well he dug the hole himself and if people are willing to use their NK abilities on him, that's their choice.

by **Rodion** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:12 pm

nagerous wrote:I don't see it that way, the more you talk about him, the more you make him a target for the night kill. I am under no obligation to name my pokemon or reveal their identities.

It's your choice. But if he later dies and flips recruited by the mafia, the fact that you did not out him will make you suspicious.

I don't really see a good reason not to clear/bust Victor as we speak, but since nobody counterclaimed Ash I'll have to buy that.

Fir, can you swap me tonight?

by **Rodion** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:13 pm

Rodion wrote:Fir, can you swap me tonight?

I'm obviously not comfortable with the claimed vig saying he finds me scummy.

by **Fircoal** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:31 pm

nagerous wrote:I don't see it that way, the more you talk about him, the more you make him a target for the night kill. I am under no obligation to name my pokemon or reveal their identities.

I don't think any amount of talking is going to make him more or less of a target for the NK. If they know he's town he's gonna be shot.

by **shieldgenerator7** on Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:03 pm

I agree with nag. He shouldn't say who's his pokemon. What if there's a third-party recruiter? Then each recrutier, town, mafia, and 3rd party only know that victor is not theirs if they don't have him. They don't know his true alignment. If nag says what Rodion wants him to, then those other two factions will have more information (unless they recruited victor).