Mafia Mafia [Endgame] *wolf struck! Town/SK win!*

[Victor Sullivan]

NOTICE: Haggis_McMutton and evilchaos confirmed via PM.

The sudden blackout causes many to gasp, scream, or otherwise project their voice, but quickly simmered down to quiet murmurs. Just as the darkness seems to swallow the sounds of uncertainty, confusion, and fear, a loud blast causes the darkness to vomit up the familiar sound waves, except with more intensity. After a few moments, the lights flicker on again to reveal one guest sitting right by a body laying on the floor. The body grumbles and sits up, eyes having difficulty adjusting to the light, despite its dimness. All eyes turn to the young man with the shotgun.
"Gentlemenzel?" he says. He and the two chosen others put on sunglasses. "I'll remember you allzel fondly," he says as he slams a small metal ball on the ground. Bright light fills the room, nearly preventing anyone from seeing anything. After a few long seconds, it passes, and everyone (aside from the three with shades) scratches or rubs their head, murmuring in confusion. The young man fills them all in on the situation, leaving out a few key details and tells them all that someone must die today.

DAY 1 BEGIN!

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

-Sully

[shieldgenerator7]

Which abilities did Shield give you 2 nights in a row?

lol wut? I believe you're talking about Sully's other game and in that one I only enabled haggis once.

I replied in the wrong thread, lol. What did you enable him to do?

I have no idea. I at first tried to give tal a busdrive ability, but Victor scolded me and said I couldn't choose what they got, but only could choose who got an extra ability each day.
FASTPOSTED by VS.

[shieldgenerator7]

So, it seems like the mafia mods will have a day kill?

[Fircoal]

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I think that's a lynch.

[pancakemix]

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So is that.

[DoomYoshi]

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I think that's a lynch.

I think you're a lynch.

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So is that.

I ended the day before you did.

[Haggis_McMutton]

Umm, actually, you're all dead, I NK'd you.

I think sully just missed my post.

[Metsfanmax]

Umm, actually, you're all dead, I NK'd you.

I think sully just missed my post.

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Pretty scummy right there.

[Fircoal]

Umm, actually, you're all dead, I NK'd you.

I think sully just missed my post.

I'm pretty sure even with no rules you can't actually do anything until the game starts.

[Haggis_McMutton]

Umm, actually, you're all dead, I NK'd you.

I think sully just missed my post.

I'm pretty sure even with no rules you can't actually do anything until the game starts.

That makes no sense. It's NO RULES.

On the other hand, with no rules, you could claim your post is to be considered before mine, even though it was posted after.

this stuff is tricky.

[Fircoal]

Umm, actually, you're all dead, I NK'd you.

I think sully just missed my post.

I'm pretty sure even with no rules you can't actually do anything until the game starts.

That makes no sense. It's NO RULES.

On the other hand, with no rules, you could claim your post is to be considered before mine, even though it was posted after.

this stuff is tricky.

Yes but thing about it. Before the game has started there is no game with no rules. Thusly you can't kill anyone in that game despite the fact that there is no rules in it. It doesn't exist yet. Only once it exists can you do anything.

[Rodion]

Umm, actually, you're all dead, I NK'd you.

I think sully just missed my post.

I'm pretty sure even with no rules you can't actually do anything until the game starts.

That makes no sense. It's NO RULES.

On the other hand, with no rules, you could claim your post is to be considered before mine, even though it was posted after.

this stuff is tricky.

Yes but thing about it. Before the game has started there is no game with no rules. Thusly you can't kill anyone in that game despite the fact that there is no rules in it. It doesn't exist yet. Only once it exists can you do anything.

Now that it exists, can he use the lack of rules to declare he won the game before it started?

Paradoxes.

[pancakemix]

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So is that.

I ended the day before you did.

There's no rule saying my votes won't count.

[evilchaos]

With no rules, I have decided to vote for roles instead of people.

Vote scum

[evilchaos]

EBWOP: Also, confirm.

I suggest that we as players set up at least one rule which we enforce via lynch.

Anyone who edits there post should be immediately lynched by everybody. No exceptions. There is no town reason to edit a post. Ever.

[Rodion]

EBWOP: Also, confirm.

I suggest that we as players set up at least one rule which we enforce via lynch.

Anyone who edits there post should be immediately lynched by everybody. No exceptions. There is no town reason to edit a post. Ever.

I totally agree!!!

[Haggis_McMutton]

Actually, i think i just figured out how to win this(with a little help from Rodion )

he PM'd me asking to quote my win condition.

Don't tell anyone your exact win condition

the scum won't know exactly how the town's win condition is worded. Here's what we do:
Go here: link.

type your win condition in there, pick a NON-TRIVIAL password and encrypt it. Post the encrypted win condition in here.
After everyone does this, we reveal the keys we used, and hopefully scum will be revealed.

I know, shitty tactic, but hey, you wanted no rules

here's mine: 3Nbz9et/lT1pqtiEuwV4kr6DlHooFsnK2eGRe2oqIcq4YhojqeMEY+EMl/Wvx51k8
jHsDIrHHYK1HEi5b8mErg====

[Rodion]

Mine is considerably bigger:

vent+F/9c+H3wvJQtboryAoQ1UmCF9Pwfi3acfGeW+XNK+NpZG+dsR01HE6CXRT6i
tcrTyM6ta7VGfrZ7NvtCPoxSs5H6kD4QmD1PsEphpa67T5BgndL9Dx6CvMv4RpYWM
vqJZfh1C9BbJQByKLnJMBQn+1Z78y15A5BD/K+6z0rM8oxs5t/gdfmwpfWRI8A30w
W9sF19Cb12d9C61vu1rbsZdf6jq4L/mm9tSm2jyxx4VcHqEUvDdRTsFjrZbk4VsAM
qJ/BoJ82sKzL0g9fAlygmSATic/8H98TtygS8eE/f4n2CpF7rz/ZWVZI7NjZj9V9+
WqtHGwhHOS4k9fM1Q====

[Haggis_McMutton]

Just to emphasize so there's no mistakes.

1. Post only the win condition, not the whole role.
2. It has to be copy/pasted from the PM, EXACT same wording.

[safariguy5]

Hooray for gaming the system.

Ok, I'll pop in later.

[kwanton]

I got that pm from rodion too.

I definitely agree with haggis on not revealing win condition.

One question tho, why is it so important that the password be non-trivial?

[Haggis_McMutton]

I just meant don't make it 1234. As they might just guess it.

[Metsfanmax]

Anyone who edits there post should be immediately lynched by everybody. No exceptions. There is no town reason to edit a post. Ever.

I find myself wanting to edit posts all the time because I accidentally missed a word or my statement was unclear. It's so much more convenient than spamming the thread with another post.

[evilchaos]

The encryption site isn't working right now, but I'll do it when it works.

FAST POSTED:
Mets, think of this situation:

Scum A slips up in the thread and says something that could build a strong case against him. Scum B happens to see it first and PMs Scum A telling him to edit the post and take it out. Scum A removes it before town sees.

I'd rather have to EBWOP instead of getting the benefit of editting in some clarity.