CLUE Mafia- Mafia Win!!!! MVP- Rodion

[VioIet]

Vote Count



Victor (2)- target, shm
Tonka (5) - Doomyoshi, Victor, Dazey, safari, freezie


With 16 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

[Victor Sullivan]

I never voted tonkaed, did I?

At any rate, unvote

-Sully

[gimli1990]

i have noticed that there are 2 votes on victor by both the players that i think are scum. so my opinion i say we lynch one of them and get more info and then go from there. any thoughts on that?

[targetman377]

UNVOTE

also Gmail why do you think i am scum? really what is your evidence?

[edocsil]

Could we at least pretend to try to get eachothers names right? This is a big enough clusterfk when I know at lest who you are talking to and about.

Personally I am laughing a the people who think it was scummy that I tried to delay my claim in the hopes of catching scum. If I thought is was more then you simply not thinking it through all the way you would have earned a vote from me for furthering the goals of the scum.

There was little risk in my move there and a chance for reward for the town? Why would I not try to take the chance? This is a serious question, how can you possibly think that it was a scummy move. Perhaps you can be annoyed that I am an attention whore sometimes here but is absoluetly asinine to think that what I did was scummy.

[DoomYoshi]

Could we at least pretend to try to get eachothers names right? This is a big enough clusterfk when I know at lest who you are talking to and about.

Personally I am laughing a the people who think it was scummy that I tried to delay my claim in the hopes of catching scum. If I thought is was more then you simply not thinking it through all the way you would have earned a vote from me for furthering the goals of the scum.

There was little risk in my move there and a chance for reward for the town? Why would I not try to take the chance? This is a serious question, how can you possibly think that it was a scummy move. Perhaps you can be annoyed that I am an attention whore sometimes here but is absoluetly asinine to think that what I did was scummy.

There is also the waffling about the massclaim. There is not enough evidence for anything yet, and you are not a likely lynch target yet. However, there is some definite FOS on you. Notice how you are third in my list of most likely.

[targetman377]

Could we at least pretend to try to get eachothers names right? This is a big enough clusterfk when I know at lest who you are talking to and about.

Personally I am laughing a the people who think it was scummy that I tried to delay my claim in the hopes of catching scum. If I thought is was more then you simply not thinking it through all the way you would have earned a vote from me for furthering the goals of the scum.

There was little risk in my move there and a chance for reward for the town? Why would I not try to take the chance? This is a serious question, how can you possibly think that it was a scummy move. Perhaps you can be annoyed that I am an attention whore sometimes here but is absoluetly asinine to think that what I did was scummy.

Also saying that we would also have to believe that you are town other wise your whole argument goes to shreds real fast. So we belive you that you are town and yes you did good things for us to catch scum. Or We see you as a scum who just wanted to claim last so you would have a good fake claim.

It also would have been alot stronger claim to make that statement if you where cleared by someone but as of such you have not. that's just what i am seeing here. I could be wrong i am still new to mafia only playing 4 games and 3 are only on 3 day 2 or earlier.

[safariguy5]

I think claiming last for edocsil isn't necessarily out of the ordinary given that he claims Boddy is an anti town role and someone could have fakeclaimed a third party alignment or town alignment. Now, if we believe edocsil is telling the truth, then claiming last makes sense. If he's not telling the truth (for instance he's Mr. Boddy and got his own card), then we can revisit that. However, I think there are enough leads with this GT/Sully thing, and shm strongly scummy that it isn't that high on my list as we have 2, potentially 3 lynches set up for us already.

[dazerazer]

How long do these things usually take?

[Rodion]

OMG. Two barely legible posts in a row. Please, Rodion, get in here and recap before I have an aneurysm.

Let me know if you really want me to explain their thoughts.


Shield - I think the cards are either guilty or innocent, I'm not sure they would explain the faction of the guilty people. It IS possible that Lala got Victor as guilty from a different faction. Why did she try to clear him? Hard to say. Perhaps because she understood that those cellar cards made town extremely overpowered (as I originally did) and that the only way her mafia would win was if both mafias worked together killing townies before all cards+truths came to surface. Again, it's hard to say. Lala could have mentioned his card expecting people to distrust her and get Victor (a townie, in this example) lynched, but that has WIFOM written all over it.
Anyway, I don't know which of the theories you really stuck with: all are possible, but all are unlikely.

Target - yes, first scene mentions Boddy has a personal chef. I thought that was Ms. Ho, but that was just my gut feeling. Perhaps Yoshi can shed some light here? And yes, I agree it's unlikely that this many people didn't ask for cards.

Mass Miracle - yes, they were gone by tuesday 31st, right after some people asked for N1 cards. Are you saying you were so busy that you didn't even get your N0 card?

i have noticed that there are 2 votes on victor by both the players that i think are scum. so my opinion i say we lynch one of them and get more info and then go from there. any thoughts on that?

I share your feelings of Shm and Target being suspicious (the former considerably more than the latter). In my mind I wanted to either lynch the possible recruiter - pending evidence - (Victor) or the scummiest (Shm), but now I've threatened Tonka to vote on him if he insists on dodging my questions and I take my threats seriously. But, yes, for me it's one of those 3.

Edocsil - not sure if you were talking about me too or not. I was the first one to allow you to postpone your claim, as long as you got results (or at least gave us a good explanation on how those results could be achieved). Honestly, I think the reason you gave was weak because you'd only be able to get scum if scum didn't fakeclaim (something we were all expecting after Lala's death). Your theory that he would claim his own name because he thought his card would have been innocent due to godfatherhood seems unlikely to me. And claiming last means you're immune to being counterclaimed, something scum would love. That said, although I'm disappointed to see your reason was not as effective as I hoped it would have been, I'm not holding it against you. By the way, can you please repeat why you think Boddy is anti-town? Because he's been blackmailing you? As far as I understand, all Clue characters are shady and blackmailing doesn't necessarily means he's one of the killers.

For now, I'm still waiting on GT's next post.

[safariguy5]

How long do these things usually take?

We started with around 20 players?

Could easily go 6-7 days or longer depending on how many anti town roles there are.

[edocsil]

Edocsil - not sure if you were talking about me too or not. I was the first one to allow you to postpone your claim, as long as you got results (or at least gave us a good explanation on how those results could be achieved). Honestly, I think the reason you gave was weak because you'd only be able to get scum if scum didn't fakeclaim (something we were all expecting after Lala's death). Your theory that he would claim his own name because he thought his card would have been innocent due to godfatherhood seems unlikely to me. And claiming last means you're immune to being counterclaimed, something scum would love. That said, although I'm disappointed to see your reason was not as effective as I hoped it would have been, I'm not holding it against you. By the way, can you please repeat why you think Boddy is anti-town? Because he's been blackmailing you? As far as I understand, all Clue characters are shady and blackmailing doesn't necessarily means he's one of the killers.

Yes, but if he lies and claims a character that hasn't been confirmed by a card he will be on the list of suspects due to the fact that his claim is unverified. That is another important part of the setup that we will be using towards the end of the game in conjunction with players that have not used in the scenes. it will help us fish out likely lies.

[VioIet]

Vote Count



Victor (1)- shm
Tonka (4) - Doomyoshi, Dazey, safari, freezie


With 16 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

[DoomYoshi]

@Rodion: Thanks for the offer, but I finally made it through alive. Mrs. Ho is Mr. Boddy's Personal Chef as far as I know. If someone else has evidence that Target's role is a real role, let us know.

[dazerazer]

Okay this game's goin stale yall..... we need to shit or get off the pot. Can we please just do something already? Anything would be better than nothing. If we know somebody is bad lets just take that person out so we can move to the next night.

[DoomYoshi]

Okay this game's goin stale yall..... we need to shit or get off the pot. Can we please just do something already? Anything would be better than nothing. If we know somebody is bad lets just take that person out so we can move to the next night.

My vote is cast.

I am working all weekend so I will not be here until Monday Night.

[safariguy5]

I'm all for offing GT to see if Victor is who he says he is. shm and target would be next on my list depending on what we can find out about Victor.

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So, we have allegedly 13 cards, since mass claims to have comm's card, 4 of us claimed to not have investigated, shm hasn't complied either way and is likely scum, AD, lala, comm and pyrhhus are dead, of the three, lala claims to have drawn one, and could have drawn a maximum of one, bringing it to 14,
so shm has either one or two, and there are four or five card between the three dead, or for the most bizarre crap luck scenario, shm has none, and all of the three dead drew two each.
I would say it is highly improbable that either scenario is true, thus there are lies in the claimed cards.

of the claims I find it rather hard to believe that certain people were unable to get an investigation in N0, considering N0 actually had no deadline...

Also if you still haven't sent in your investigations yet- no worries, you still have time to do so. But nonetheless its time to start the new day.

Yes, I suppose one could have missed that, but it is extremely lazy to do so since it would mean coming back after an absence and literally disregarding an entire scene posted by the mod.
oh well I suppose we'll find who's who in the following investigations.

By the way, does anyone so far have contradictory pre-game info?
By that I mean, I'm starting to think that perhaps we have all have some piece(s) of info in our role PMs related to others, Saf knows I have a bit of a crooked cop reputation, I know Mass "doesn't belong here" for whatever reason, does anyone have anything that seems immediately contradictory in their Role PMs when compared to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cluedo_characters
like "you notice rodion is a pretty lady" or something? note that the back-stories may have been altered slightly for a twist, so if you uncertain it is a contradiction ask for more info on the person.

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So, what we have planned for today is, lynch GT and if he's town kill Vic? I suppose a matter like a recruiter overrides the hunt for the obvious scum, and we can't let any potential lyncher win after all this. Vote GT

[Mass Miracle]

To clarify I do not claim to have Commanders card...I had some info on him from my role pm, but since he is dead there is no need to get into it. On N0, I investigated the Billiard Room (nothing happened) and the Pipe, which had Mr Boddy's prints on it. On N1, it was Memorial Day weekend, at some point I asked for a cellar card and was told they were gone. When I finally read that PM it was to late to request another action.

[ben.cleuch]

OMG according to wiki I am going to get killed. No there is nothing in my pm that contradicts the wiki list other than I am the stranded motorist, not just a motorist.
vote GT.

[Victor Sullivan]

Using /'s link:

The second police character, usually known as The Chief, initially seems to be a gag character, an evangelist who comes to the door talking about "the Kingdom of Heaven." However, in all three endings he acts as the film's deus ex machina, turning out to be an undercover police chief who arrests the murderer or murderers.

I rest my case.

-Sully

[shieldgenerator7]

Using /'s link:

The second police character, usually known as The Chief, initially seems to be a gag character, an evangelist who comes to the door talking about "the Kingdom of Heaven." However, in all three endings he acts as the film's deus ex machina, turning out to be an undercover police chief who arrests the murderer or murderers.

I rest my case.

-Sully

Ok, then. If Vio and tal follow this kind of set-up that means Sully is most likely town, and that thing that GT told us about makes sense, because then Sully would be "gag" recruiting and not really recruiting, maybe town mason? I don't know how many of us have seen the movie or read the wiki, but I'm guessing this is one thing GT didn't know, and so thought Sully was suspicious. However, this is me playing the mod, and I don't know the set-up, so the mod could have used this character as a cult player. But it sounds highly unlikely.

[Rodion]

because then Sully would be "gag" recruiting and not really recruiting, maybe town mason?

But Sully would at least need to admit that he indeed targeted GT yesterday, no? So far he denied it.

[shieldgenerator7]

because then Sully would be "gag" recruiting and not really recruiting, maybe town mason?

But Sully would at least need to admit that he indeed targeted GT yesterday, no? So far he denied it.

That would mean Sully really is cult and is trying to hide it (it would make sense for an evangelist to give the recruitee the option of joining), or that GT made it up to try and get Sully lynched.

[safariguy5]

Either way, getting rid of GT will give us a good idea what Sully's alignment is.