[Endgame] Firefly Mafia

[Anarkistsdream]

My anger is from the fact that you ran this game in circles for the last two or three pages. If you want or feel the need to do something, just do it, but don't drag it out for a WEEK of real life time. It makes it where I don't even want to play in that game... And then, when you post stuff like:

No it's ok. I would rather look at some other cases now. So, I am not quite sure what Talapus and strike were arguing about. I got the first case on Talapus, but nothing since then. I feel there may be a problem with having some many replacements, some wires got crossed.

it aggravates way more than just me, there, bud... My roleclaim may have been unnecessary, but it also didn't take pages and days of real life to get it out there... In the end, you did it anyway... So why string it out?

[Anarkistsdream]

Also, since the second part of the case against me is that I made a few (not very funny) jokes, I would like to present exhibit A:

Jesus guys, it's a game. Calm down.

Perhaps your total change of attitude could be since you turned from town to mafia? I can see no other reason for a total shift like this.

Huh???

[Talapus]

Doom, I got to say that your track record with games I've been with you in all look very similar to the stunts you are pulling here. In all the games I've played with you so far which this is the 3rd or 4th you've made similiar mistakes to the ones here and in all those games you were scum or lyncher. This pattern tells me odds are good you are lying about this roll in here as well. So tell me Yoshi, why in the world should I believe this claim after this 3 page charade you've made us all witness and participate in. Because I'll be honest, I called out this behavior in other games with other plyers and in all instances, we were right and you were lying. You are currently 0 for 2 right now and this I think would make a third.

So, why aren't you lying about your role this time man?

[DoomYoshi]

My anger is from the fact that you ran this game in circles for the last two or three pages. If you want or feel the need to do something, just do it, but don't drag it out for a WEEK of real life time. It makes it where I don't even want to play in that game... And then, when you post stuff like:

No it's ok. I would rather look at some other cases now. So, I am not quite sure what Talapus and strike were arguing about. I got the first case on Talapus, but nothing since then. I feel there may be a problem with having some many replacements, some wires got crossed.

it aggravates way more than just me, there, bud... My roleclaim may have been unnecessary, but it also didn't take pages and days of real life to get it out there... In the end, you did it anyway... So why string it out?

I wasn't trying to string it out. I jokingly offered to claim, which made people angry somehow. Then, there was some WIFOM speculation as to why I would want to claim. So, I didn't claim right away, as it would make people suspicious. Then, the pressure on me increased, so I claimed. There was no attempt to string it out and waste your time. If you don't want to play anymore, why are voting me and not yourself? I think you really need to get your doctor to get your Valium prescription increased, as you have gone ballistic over this game.

@Talapus: I don't understand what the stunt is. Perhaps, I am a socially awkward person. I am often outspoken. Perhaps, this carries over into the mafia games I play and attracts undue attention to me. I have been scum in most games I have played, but even when I am town (Albarezzi and Terminator) I still attract undue attention. I think the main evidence here is that I have been intentionally focusing the case on myself in this game. Could you elaborate on what exactly these mistakes are?

@All: I am sorry if I have ruined your game. I was just trying to entertain myself, and hopefully others. It appears I failed at the latter, and other factors have caused me to fail at the former now as well.

vote Yoshi

[VioIet]

vote Yoshi

You vote yourself now Yoshi, when you criticized Anark for doing the same thing, and even brought it up on this very page.

Vote Yoshi

I will note that I did indeed know this was Yoshi's claim. I will also note I hadn't considered the possibility that he might be a town bomb which kind of fits the character. At the very least I am a bit skeptical about him even if the claim is real because (only read this if you hav in the show he basically just used his relationship with mal and zoe to try to escape the alliance whom he had double crossed. When that was south he tried to hold the crew hostage. I could say the detailed way it happened but it would be a spoiler. Well more of a spoiler than it already is.

Strike, how did you know this? Is this something that you knew as your previous character Mal?

[strike wolf]

Not exactly all I will say is by morning whether I am alive or dead you should know more.

[safariguy5]

I'll wait for a VC, but I have to say, not a real good job of playing town bomb if you are one Yoshi, I didn't think mafia was going to target you anyways, and now you're giving them even more reason not to now. Course, I think if this is the lynch target for today, maybe a less valuable townie (nark comes to mind) would be the better hammer.

And personal attacks don't get you far Yoshi, you should know that. You did play coy with whether or not you want to claim. Claiming is the best defense, but offering it up like that and then changing your mind doesn't paint you in a very positive light.

[DoomYoshi]

And personal attacks don't get you far Yoshi, you should know that.
You did play coy with whether or not you want to claim.
Claiming is the best defense, but offering it up like that and then changing your mind doesn't paint you in a very positive light.

I only resort to personal attacks as a retaliatory strategy.

I didn't actually realize that was a major offense. It was just me having good old-fashioned impish fun.

I was offering it up since I didn't want to be NKed. Knowing my claim, you must at least understand why I did this.

vote Yoshi

You vote yourself now Yoshi, when you criticized Anark for doing the same thing, and even brought it up on this very page.

Vote Yoshi

I am voting myself as I don't want to play this game anymore. Also, I wasn't criticizing Nark, I was just pointing out that he was about to kill himself until I stood up for him.

unvote

I will hammer myself, as soon as the vote count is ready. Also, edoc said he was going to resend my role PM, however at this point it is probably unnecessary . Good bye, cruel world.

[Anarkistsdream]

No offense, but it's hard to feel sorry for someone who acts like this in game after game, as was also pointed out recently.

[strike wolf]

vote yoshi

I wouldn't be too hard on yoshi. I think he has potential to be a very good player but he is still a bit new to the game. He's also active and tries to play well which is worth a lot in my books.

[edocsil]

10 alive 6 to lynch

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[Iliad]

Unvote vote Yoshi

It may have been an honest mistkae but when someone misclaims it most often isn't.
You're not too bad a play yoshi, you just need to be more careful but you've hit way too many scumtells and that was even before the fail that was the attempt of a claim.

[DoomYoshi]

Got me PM resent, I am indeed Tracey Smith. I probably had Simon on the brain since he was dead.

[Commander9]

Am I the only who thinks that we should vig kill him? His behaviour seems to indicate that he WANTS to be lynched and I know he's not THAT bad of a player to play THIS bad. Something stinks here and I for one would suggest to find someone else and not end the day now anyways. We have barely got anything from this day and it seems like most of you are content with moving on like this.

[safariguy5]

Am I the only who thinks that we should vig kill him? His behaviour seems to indicate that he WANTS to be lynched and I know he's not THAT bad of a player to play THIS bad. Something stinks here and I for one would suggest to find someone else and not end the day now anyways. We have barely got anything from this day and it seems like most of you are content with moving on like this.

I'm willing to straight up lynch him and vig someone else. I have suggest that nark be the hammer simply because nark claims he isn't a real strong town role anyways. I agree, no big leads so far, but the list of possible suspects should be getting smaller anyways.

[Commander9]

I'm willing to straight up lynch him and vig someone else. I have suggest that nark be the hammer simply because nark claims he isn't a real strong town role anyways. I agree, no big leads so far, but the list of possible suspects should be getting smaller anyways.

Fair enough on that, although don't you think that we will be going with almost nothing of substance by ending this day now? Pretty much no new leads or anything else and I'm not sure if that is such a good idea.

[safariguy5]

Well, we do have Tal presenting a case on strike, and Vio vs Iliad is still in the background, so I think there's still leads to pursue. At least with a NK I do have a chance to hit scum, and the odds now are more favorable than they were in the beginning of the game, especially with 3 cleared townies (me, chu and nark).

[Anarkistsdream]

I'll only hammer once he has enough votes that I can unvote and hammer... Too little activity from too many players.

[strike wolf]

He should hammer himself as he has already suggested doing. I believe he is at L-1 so all he has to do is vote himself.
slight fos com9 for suggesting we vig kill a potential bomb. Jester is extremely unlikely considering the set up and edoc has made a point in the past of showing that like most he feels unlynchable scum roles to be unbalanced, so I see a much smaller chance for error with lynching than vig killing.

[ShaggyDan]

I'll only hammer once he has enough votes that I can unvote and hammer... Too little activity from too many players.

He's L-1 atm. I'm prepared to vote him. If you want to hammer you can unvote and I'll vote? Alternatively we can have him hammer himself I guess...

I'm just worried we have little to go off tomorrow.

I do have an idea. We could always continue the case making and discussion of the day, keeping an 'unofficial vote count' where we don't actually vote. From this we decide a person to hammer. In doing this we will effectively get 2 lynches if Yoshi is telling the truth. 1 from lynching the bomb, 1 from voting for who will hammer the bomb.

If he's telling the truth about the bomb then we decide the person who gets killed by him, if he's lieing we hit scum and we have some more leads to go off tomorrow.

Thoughts?

[Commander9]

He should hammer himself as he has already suggested doing. I believe he is at L-1 so all he has to do is vote himself.
slight fos com9 for suggesting we vig kill a potential bomb. Jester is extremely unlikely considering the set up and edoc has made a point in the past of showing that like most he feels unlynchable scum roles to be unbalanced, so I see a much smaller chance for error with lynching than vig killing.

Fair enough, although I would prefer to discuss and I don't believe we should end the day just yet.

He should hammer himself as he has already suggested doing. I believe he is at L-1 so all he has to do is vote himself.
slight fos com9 for suggesting we vig kill a potential bomb. Jester is extremely unlikely considering the set up and edoc has made a point in the past of showing that like most he feels unlynchable scum roles to be unbalanced, so I see a much smaller chance for error with lynching than vig killing.

Gee... If you are so sure that he's pro town bomb, why are you voting him? If he's not jester, I really can't understand what he's doing here then... He just recently claimed and bluffed town bomb in South Park and I called him out for that and he wasn't a bomb after all. I think, that it's more likely that he's a bomb here than there, but this behaviour seems extremely odd - it seems like he almost wants to be lynched, which I find unsettling.

[strike wolf]

I'm not saying I believe he is. I am saying he is potentially the bomb as he could be telling the truth. I just find the only other likely scenarios beyond it being a bluff unlikely.

[Commander9]

I'm not saying I believe he is. I am saying he is potentially the bomb as he could be telling the truth. I just find the only other likely scenarios beyond it being a bluff unlikely.

Can you then explain his erratic behaviour, him wanting to claiming, then not wanting to claim, then claiming a dead person bomb, then reclaiming, then... His behaviour is usually not like that - he usually does everything to not get himself lynched and is working his style differently. Here, however, he is acting extremely scummy and doing mistakes a 1st time scum would do - and he's above that, which worries me. I do find it odd would include a jester, but I would not discount it. Furthermore, maybe it's some sort of different role that requires lynching, not NK'ing.

[strike wolf]

I can't which is a big part of the reason why I want to lynch him. The only reasoning I can think of is it is either part of his bluff, the theory earlier that you suggested that he could have believed his fake claim to be very strong but when someone who claimed to know his fake name said he wasn't buying it he backed off and became worried about claiming, a mix of the first two or if and only if he is telling the truth this is how he plays a bomb. :s

[Commander9]

I can't which is a big part of the reason why I want to lynch him. The only reasoning I can think of is it is either part of his bluff, the theory earlier that you suggested that he could have believed his fake claim to be very strong but when someone who claimed to know his fake name said he wasn't buying it he backed off and became worried about claiming, a mix of the first two or if and only if he is telling the truth this is how he plays a bomb. :s

Okay, I guess I can understand your logic here. I will be very curious to see the outcome now (regardless of whether he gets NK'd or lynched) as I am honestly dying to find out why he did what he did (And I most definitely hope that not how he plays the bomb).