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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby edocsil on Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:33 pm

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edocsil wrote:Humh, what page is that on, I couldn't find it. I would like to see the whole quote.


Start of day 4, page 33.


Humh, I really wish he had posted the exact result, I am guessing it was a simple, "He is Dom Cobb" from on high. Fir, take your pick.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby edocsil on Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:04 pm

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edocsil wrote:Humh, what page is that on, I couldn't find it. I would like to see the whole quote.


Start of day 4, page 33.


Humh, I really wish he had posted the exact result, I am guessing it wasn't a simple, "He is Dom Cobb" from on high. Fir, take your pick.


Quoted cause I screwed up a was and a wasn't.

Still waiting on you Fir. End the game now, one way or another.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby Commander9 on Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:57 pm

edocsil wrote:Quoted cause I screwed up a was and a wasn't.

Still waiting on you Fir. End the game now, one way or another.


Agreed. The choice is all yours, Fir:

A) A confirmed townie by a confirmed investigator with unambigious role that has to be in the game. (me)

OR


B) A known manipulator with a very ambiguous character. (Edoc)
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby edocsil on Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:47 pm

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edocsil wrote:Quoted cause I screwed up a was and a wasn't.

Still waiting on you Fir. End the game now, one way or another.


Agreed. The choice is all yours, Fir:

A) A confirmed townie by a confirmed investigator with unambigious role that has to be in the game. (me)

OR


B) A known manipulator with a very ambiguous character. (Edoc)


Both bolded parts are logical fallacies. Ah, now I am a know manipulator. Well, there was the SK in vio's game, that was manipulative, but what I said was mostly true. Then in the Matrix I again told the truth, and finally in POTC mafia I again tell the truth. When I say I don't lie I mean it, I do that so that when I pull a gambit of some sort people know I do not lie. That reputation is far more important then a win in any single game.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby pancakemix on Sat Jun 04, 2011 3:35 pm

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edoc - 1 (Commander)

With 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch. I'm striking the deadline in the hopes that something gets done. I'll prod anyone if it is requested.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby Commander9 on Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:18 pm

pancakemix wrote:Vote Count

edoc - 1 (Commander)

With 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch. I'm striking the deadline in the hopes that something gets done. I'll prod anyone if it is requested.


Prod Fircoal, please.

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edocsil wrote:Quoted cause I screwed up a was and a wasn't.

Still waiting on you Fir. End the game now, one way or another.


Agreed. The choice is all yours, Fir:

A) A confirmed townie by a confirmed investigator with unambigious role that has to be in the game. (me)

OR


B) A known manipulator with a very ambiguous character. (Edoc)


Both bolded parts are logical fallacies. Ah, now I am a know manipulator. Well, there was the SK in vio's game, that was manipulative, but what I said was mostly true. Then in the Matrix I again told the truth, and finally in POTC mafia I again tell the truth. When I say I don't lie I mean it, I do that so that when I pull a gambit of some sort people know I do not lie. That reputation is far more important then a win in any single game.


How are those logical falacies? A confirmed investigator said that I was DOMINIC COBB. Which part of that is UNCLEAR to you? And yes, if Eames was in the game, Cobb has to be - there have been much less known roles included and Inception only had one character, while all other main movies had 2.

Hah, you can manipulate even without lying - just twist the truth your way, which is pretty much what you do. Don't make me go back to San Francisco mafia or some other games and pull off some quotes.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby edocsil on Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:56 pm

SF was vio's game I referenced myself, Point Null. The investigator never said you were a townie (though I do think dom cobb would likely be a townie) and no role has to be in the game, a role can always be not given to make a strong fake for a scum. IMO you have jumped on the offensive to hard here against me. At first my vote was a half-assed attempt to divert the attention from my rather inevitable lynch, but now I think you may genuinely may be scum, flavor investigation aside. Like I said, Spiesr wasn't given names, he is given objects about the person. I think he was given your Top, a sign that is also the symbol of Mal.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby Commander9 on Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:17 pm

edocsil wrote:SF was vio's game I referenced myself, Point Null. The investigator never said you were a townie (though I do think dom cobb would likely be a townie) and no role has to be in the game, a role can always be not given to make a strong fake for a scum. IMO you have jumped on the offensive to hard here against me. At first my vote was a half-assed attempt to divert the attention from my rather inevitable lynch, but now I think you may genuinely may be scum, flavor investigation aside. Like I said, Spiesr wasn't given names, he is given objects about the person. I think he was given your Top, a sign that is also the symbol of Mal.


Just because you mentioned doesn't make it nulled - you still lied, manipulated and done everything to avoid being lynched. He pretty much said I was townie without exactly saying - read the posts again. This strong?.. The only roles that were likelier to be in this game was Batman and *maybe* Joker.

Jumped too hard?.. Maybe because you are by far the most ambiguous character and the likeliest candidate to be the last remaining scumster? I wouldn't call your attempt as half-assed either.

Your last part is PURELY WIFOM - you are just making stuff up now.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby edocsil on Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:42 pm

Commander9 wrote:
edocsil wrote:SF was vio's game I referenced myself, Point Null. The investigator never said you were a townie (though I do think dom cobb would likely be a townie) and no role has to be in the game, a role can always be not given to make a strong fake for a scum. IMO you have jumped on the offensive to hard here against me. At first my vote was a half-assed attempt to divert the attention from my rather inevitable lynch, but now I think you may genuinely may be scum, flavor investigation aside. Like I said, Spiesr wasn't given names, he is given objects about the person. I think he was given your Top, a sign that is also the symbol of Mal.


Just because you mentioned doesn't make it nulled - you still lied, manipulated and done everything to avoid being lynched. He pretty much said I was townie without exactly saying - read the posts again. This strong?.. The only roles that were likelier to be in this game was Batman and *maybe* Joker.

Jumped too hard?.. Maybe because you are by far the most ambiguous character and the likeliest candidate to be the last remaining scumster? I wouldn't call your attempt as half-assed either.

Your last part is PURELY WIFOM - you are just making stuff up now.


Well, as the only role capable of killing the mafia GF, I was their only hope of living and I did give them the remaining Prisoners.

Now I am really interested in the final reveal of the game by the mod. This kind of play is not the norm from you Com and I want to know why.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby Fircoal on Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:47 pm

pancakemix wrote:Vote Count

edoc - 1 (Commander)

With 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch. I'm striking the deadline in the hopes that something gets done. I'll prod anyone if it is requested.


Prod Streaker please.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby Commander9 on Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:48 pm

edocsil wrote:Well, as the only role capable of killing the mafia GF, I was their only hope of living and I did give them the remaining Prisoners.

Now I am really interested in the final reveal of the game by the mod. This kind of play is not the norm from you Com and I want to know why.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but they didn't know you were Zodiac until the very end?

Same here. I've been wondering what's up with this game for a while now...

How is my play not normal here?
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby Fircoal on Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:51 pm

Honestly atm I'm leaning more towards Edoc.

And I too don't know how this is different than Com's normal play.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby edocsil on Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:55 pm

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edocsil wrote:Well, as the only role capable of killing the mafia GF, I was their only hope of living and I did give them the remaining Prisoners.

Now I am really interested in the final reveal of the game by the mod. This kind of play is not the norm from you Com and I want to know why.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but they didn't know you were Zodiac until the very end?

Same here. I've been wondering what's up with this game for a while now...

How is my play not normal here?


No one knew until i was NKed, I had them hook, line and sinker I was triple bulletproof, but one of my old scum mates tried to kill me before we hung him, cost me one of my BP and the GF managed to finish me off.

Your play is not normal because you are very defensive in your response to my case and I know you well enough to hazard a guess that part of your apparent emotion is an act. Perhaps I am wrong, but my gut says something isn't adding up here.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby edocsil on Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:57 pm

Fircoal wrote:Honestly atm I'm leaning more towards Edoc.

And I too don't know how this is different than Com's normal play.


I have PMed with him on occasion. It's more the difference in his attitude, something you wouldn't pick up just playing mafia with him. Make you pick tonight Fir, there is no point in waiting.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby Commander9 on Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:07 am

edocsil wrote:No one knew until i was NKed, I had them hook, line and sinker I was triple bulletproof, but one of my old scum mates tried to kill me before we hung him, cost me one of my BP and the GF managed to finish me off.

Your play is not normal because you are very defensive in your response to my case and I know you well enough to hazard a guess that part of your apparent emotion is an act. Perhaps I am wrong, but my gut says something isn't adding up here.

I have PMed with him on occasion. It's more the difference in his attitude, something you wouldn't pick up just playing mafia with him. Make you pick tonight Fir, there is no point in waiting.


Exactly - they thought you were somewhat harmless and you turned out to be a SK in the end. Yes, you did want to kill mafia GF, but it was it would have helped you to win, not for the town.

Defencive? *Deep, deep sigh* How am I more defencive than usual - I'm somewhat known to always be defend myself or others that I believe to be town vigorously, almost militant like. Furthermore, there was no case and I can say that I actually did post 1 post when I was feeling quite a bit of frustration. I honestly can't say that you are looking very scummy to me, but neither does anyone else and your role seems like by far the most likely to be a bad guy. I just can't wait till I see the set up and roles, as something in this game is very stinky.

Not completely sure what you're saying here, to be fair. I do consider myself a nice person and I would say that I have a couple of fairly good internet buddies (say like Vioiet), but notice that I go after her just as militantly at times as I go at anyone else. To put in basic terms: I try to leave out personalities and my personal emotions towards that person by the door when I enter a mafia game.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby edocsil on Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:10 am

Exactly my point, your argument has seemed personal at a few points and that is why I think something is up.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby Commander9 on Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:15 am

edocsil wrote:Exactly my point, your argument has seemed personal at a few points and that is why I think something is up.


I can admit that I have put in some emotions, but it was basically because you said yesterday that if a specific someone doesn't turn out to be scum, you are fine with us lynching you. Most of us have wanted to check you for a while now, but we allowed you to lead us... and it failed. After your post today I was somewhat angry that you changed your word and that you decided to continue to provide us with targets.

In the end, I consider that you are now desperate to survive and will try almost anything to do so. Furthermore, you seem like you are trying to manipulate us and from all of the roles that are left, yours seems like the most ambiguous, so in the end I concluded that you are the best target and I will stick by that.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby edocsil on Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:18 am

Commander9 wrote:
edocsil wrote:Exactly my point, your argument has seemed personal at a few points and that is why I think something is up.


I can admit that I have put in some emotions, but it was basically because you said yesterday that if a specific someone doesn't turn out to be scum, you are fine with us lynching you. Most of us have wanted to check you for a while now, but we allowed you to lead us... and it failed. After your post today I was somewhat angry that you changed your word and that you decided to continue to provide us with targets.

In the end, I consider that you are now desperate to survive and will try almost anything to do so. Furthermore, you seem like you are trying to manipulate us and from all of the roles that are left, yours seems like the most ambiguous, so in the end I concluded that you are the best target and I will stick by that.

I said that because I fully expected the game to end then. Now I am confused, but I will not simply roll over when it is lylo
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby Streaker on Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:34 am

I will stick by my thoughts of previous days, and Vote edoc.

Simply put, of all roles his seems most likely the last scum.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby Fircoal on Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:08 am

Fircoal wrote:Before I do any helping of anyone out. I was thinking of something and I'd like clarification. Streaker did you target Speisr last night? I want to be 100% sure the kill was you.

Streaker answer this question as well as the fact that you have a 1/3 chance to kill someone right?
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby pancakemix on Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:13 am

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edoc - 2 (Commander, Streaker)

With 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch. I'll prod anyone if it is requested.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby Fircoal on Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:46 pm

pancakemix wrote:Vote Count

edoc - 2 (Commander, Streaker)

With 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch. I'll prod anyone if it is requested.


When is the deadline?
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby pancakemix on Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:15 pm

Fircoal wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Vote Count

edoc - 2 (Commander, Streaker)

With 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch. I'll prod anyone if it is requested.


When is the deadline?


There isn't one.
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby Fircoal on Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:35 pm

Whatever... Vote: Edoc
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Re: Chris Nolan Mafia -Day 6 - Stolen Goods

Postby pancakemix on Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:26 pm

The Flip Side

EXT. STREET - DAY

COM9: I'm telling you, he's responsible for all of this.

EDOC: Don't be ridiculous. It's so painfully obvious.

CHU: Enough bickering. Let's get this over with.

EDOC: Wait, wait, how about a game of chance.

STREAK: Hell no.

Edocsil AKA Harvey Dent (The Dark Knight, 2008) Pro-Town Governor has been lynched.

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