[UNKNOWN] Mafia Day 5 - The Disappearance [Abandoned]

[freezie]

I am glad we can all give this Rodion thing a rest. I for one am also interested in what freezie has to say. Its a bit unlucky, but seeing as how he was one of the more willing to test Rodion's ability, when really the case against him is a bit weak to begin with, he should be the next focus for discussion.


Why was freezie so willing to end the day if there was a compelling claim not to?

Are you and doomyoshi conected somehow? I explained that a millenium ago.

But for skimmers, here's the posts about where4 I said I misunderstood his role:

I completly misunderstood the part about your own lynch prevention, which confused me into thinking you could only used it on yourself.

changes a lot of things in my head now..

unvote

for the time beeing..

Either way it doesn't make sense in my eyes cause losing a prevent lynch on yourself power is nearly useless...we won't spend the whole damn game lynching you every days until you lose it..

Basicly, I read his role as a one time unlynchable, instead of a unlychable period. Hence why it sounded weird to me. One shot vig is common, but one shot unlynch?

I also said that it was my mistake.


But, got tonkaed, do I need to dig all your games to see if you voted people who claimed unlynchable to try their claims? Cause that's what I did.

But like I said, that was my bad as I misread his claim.

And I forgot color unvoting so let me do that:

Unvote

[freezie]

Oh and commander, your deadline has been reached 26 days ago. Just saying.

[DoomYoshi]

Either way, that doesn't explain your post. He is one-shot unlynchable. Unlynchable period doesn't enter the picture.

Either way it doesn't make sense in my eyes cause losing a prevent lynch on yourself power is nearly useless...we won't spend the whole damn game lynching you every days until you lose it..

What doesn't make sense? Lynching Rodion? Your vote was still on him at this point... At the very least, answer this question.

Losing a prevent lynch power on yourself? Clearly, you understand that he gets 1(one) use of the lynch here, as you understand that it can be a) used b) lost c) used on others. So, as evidenced here, you correctly surmize that he has a standard Governor power as one of his powers.

Yet here you don't seem to understand that there is only one use. My question is though, if we wouldn't waste the whole game, why would we even waste a single day? Remember that as of the post I have a problem with, your vote was on Rodion.

Just saying you didn't understand isn't a valid defense. I want to know specifically: a) what you were thinking at the time b) what new understanding has caused you to change your mind. You have not given that yet. You may think you have, but poorly constructed sentences do not promote clarity. Spend time with a spelling and grammar-checker before you post your next reply. If you must, ask a friend with better English skills to help you out. I trust I am not alone in thinking that your double-speaking and poor logic could be the sign of a scummer caught.

[freezie]

Either way, that doesn't explain your post. He is one-shot unlynchable. Unlynchable period doesn't enter the picture.

And I said that all along. My point was that a one shot prevent lynch of himself sounded weird. 3rd time I say this now.

Either way it doesn't make sense in my eyes cause losing a prevent lynch on yourself power is nearly useless...we won't spend the whole damn game lynching you every days until you lose it..

What doesn't make sense? Lynching Rodion? Your vote was still on him at this point... At the very least, answer this question.

I had bolded unvote, not color unvoted. It has been fixed. Sorry that only 10% of the games I play required colors.

Losing a prevent lynch power on yourself? Clearly, you understand that he gets 1(one) use of the lynch here, as you understand that it can be a) used b) lost c) used on others. So, as evidenced here, you correctly surmize that he has a standard Governor power as one of his powers.

Re0read. I said, FIVE TIMES NOW, I thought he had a one shot prevent lynch on HIMSELF.

Of course I knew it was one shot. I said I missunserstood the part about where he could save others, as per the governor role. Cna I plz now stop repeating myself?

Yet here you don't seem to understand that there is only one use. My question is though, if we wouldn't waste the whole game, why would we even waste a single day? Remember that as of the post I have a problem with, your vote was on Rodion.

Yes I understand there is only one use. Why would we waste a day? Testing an unlynchable claim by lynching him is common in nature. Since I THOUGHT he could only use it on himself, I see no harm in trying his claim anyway, since if he isn't lying we wouldn't vote him again anyway. If he is, we found a scum. Win-win.


And next time you talk about my English skills, know that I am a french speaking canadian from Quebec. English is only my second language.

Have I answered your questions? I see no reasons to post what I was thinking at the time since it's included in my now last 4 posts. I thought he could only use it on himself. Period.

[DoomYoshi]

Now it is clear. Thank you. Believe it or not, it was impossible to understand what you meant before as you use lots of words like "it" without reference to any particular thing. I understand that English isn't your first language, and it was becoming clear to me that a language barrier was the problem here. unvote

[freezie]

Now it is clear. Thank you. Believe it or not, it was impossible to understand what you meant before as you use lots of words like "it" without reference to any particular thing. I understand that English isn't your first language, and it was becoming clear to me that a language barrier was the problem here. unvote

They had references. Everything I have said, I repeated it times and again for you. Read back the last 2 pages, where I said what I thought and rodion corrected me.



If this was baseball, you'd been out twice for 6 skimmings.

[Rodion]

Now it is clear. Thank you. Believe it or not, it was impossible to understand what you meant before as you use lots of words like "it" without reference to any particular thing. I understand that English isn't your first language, and it was becoming clear to me that a language barrier was the problem here. unvote

They had references. Everything I have said, I repeated it times and again for you. Read back the last 2 pages, where I said what I thought and rodion corrected me.



If this was baseball, you'd been out twice for 6 skimmings.

But since baseball's a 9-inning game he'd still have at least 1 more "at bat".

[strike wolf]

And while everyone was asking freezie to explain the same thing over and over again blake makes blanket statemnts about what is happening currently and reminding us of rodion's scum games (I am not going into this part as it is a wifom argument.) Also and this is nothing new for this game but target flips his position more than there have been pancakes flipped at IHOP

[ndrs]

Yes I understand there is only one use. Why would we waste a day? Testing an unlynchable claim by lynching him is common in nature. Since I THOUGHT he could only use it on himself, I see no harm in trying his claim anyway, since if he isn't lying we wouldn't vote him again anyway. If he is, we found a scum. Win-win.

If that's how you feel –– why did you unvote?

[shieldgenerator7]

And next time you talk about my English skills, know that I am a french speaking canadian from Quebec. English is only my second language.

Wow. You're pretty good at English for it being your second language. Not perfect, but I could hardly tell your speech was english second language and thought they were all typos. +1 for freezie

[ndrs]

And next time you talk about my English skills, know that I am a french speaking canadian from Quebec. English is only my second language.

Wow. You're pretty good at English for it being your second language. Not perfect, but I could hardly tell your speech was english second language and thought they were all typos. +1 for freezie

+2

[DoomYoshi]

I said I missunserstood the part about where he could save others, as per the governor role.

When you say it like this it makes perfect sense.

I completly misunderstood the part about your own lynch prevention, which confused me into thinking you could only used it on yourself.

You said it here, but at that point (and still) you never actually said the real reason: lynching Rodion made sense because a 1-shot unlynchable role sounds like a fake claim. You could've just said that in the beginning, unless it's not the real reason in which case, you still need a defense for your actions.

And yet...

I more or less beleive Rodion's claim, and anyway I won't unvote since that's a good way to verifying that claim.

You claim that you do believe his claim...

Basicly, I read his role as a one time unlynchable, instead of a unlychable period. Hence why it sounded weird to me. One shot vig is common, but one shot unlynch?

He isn't unlynchable period. Where does one shot vig come in?

Finally...

I had bolded unvote, not color unvoted. It has been fixed. Sorry that only 10% of the games I play required colors.

This is untrue. The post immediately before you said you were keeping your vote on Rodion. LAL.

vote freezie

[freezie]

And next time you talk about my English skills, know that I am a french speaking canadian from Quebec. English is only my second language.

Wow. You're pretty good at English for it being your second language. Not perfect, but I could hardly tell your speech was english second language and thought they were all typos. +1 for freezie

I do make a lot of typos..

[Fircoal]

Now it is clear. Thank you. Believe it or not, it was impossible to understand what you meant before as you use lots of words like "it" without reference to any particular thing. I understand that English isn't your first language, and it was becoming clear to me that a language barrier was the problem here. unvote

They had references. Everything I have said, I repeated it times and again for you. Read back the last 2 pages, where I said what I thought and rodion corrected me.



If this was baseball, you'd been out twice for 6 skimmings.

But since baseball's a 9-inning game he'd still have at least 1 more "at bat".

Unless he got pitch hit for.

[freezie]

I had bolded unvote, not color unvoted. It has been fixed. Sorry that only 10% of the games I play required colors.

This is untrue. The post immediately before you said you were keeping your vote on Rodion. LAL.

vote freezie[/quote]

I completly misunderstood the part about your own lynch prevention, which confused me into thinking you could only used it on yourself.

changes a lot of things in my head now..

unvote

for the time beeing..

The post right after this one is the one that I told you you were ''out'' for skimming 3 times.


LaL?

No, lynch the numerous times skimmer, trying to mislead the town with fake statements.

Vote: Doomyoshi

[freezie]

EBWOP: My last post is all screwy. This one looks much better.

I had bolded unvote, not color unvoted. It has been fixed. Sorry that only 10% of the games I play required colors.

This is untrue. The post immediately before you said you were keeping your vote on Rodion. LAL.

vote freezie

I completly misunderstood the part about your own lynch prevention, which confused me into thinking you could only used it on yourself.

changes a lot of things in my head now..

unvote

for the time beeing..

The post right after this one is the one that I told you you were ''out'' for skimming 3 times.


LaL?

No, lynch the numerous times skimmer, trying to mislead the town with fake statements.

Vote: Doomyoshi

[DoomYoshi]

EBWOP: My last post is all screwy. This one looks much better.

I had bolded unvote, not color unvoted. It has been fixed. Sorry that only 10% of the games I play required colors.

This is untrue. The post immediately before you said you were keeping your vote on Rodion. LAL.

vote freezie

I completly misunderstood the part about your own lynch prevention, which confused me into thinking you could only used it on yourself.

changes a lot of things in my head now..

unvote

for the time beeing..

The post right after this one is the one that I told you you were ''out'' for skimming 3 times.


LaL?

No, lynch the numerous times skimmer, trying to mislead the town with fake statements.

Vote: Doomyoshi

GAH!!! I was asking you about the post which started... Either way... At that point your vote was still on Rodion. The thing I am quoting was your response to me asking you why your vote was still on Rodion if it didn't make sense. The thing I am quoting was your response to me asking you why your vote was still on Rodion if we didn't want to waste a day.

I am talking about the post on page 49. It made no sense for your vote to be on Rodion if "it" doesn't make sense. It makes no sense for your vote to be on Rodion if we are not going to be wasting days running out his unlynchability. You only unvoted after you realized your mistake. You have still not explained why you are voting for someone a) whose claim you believe b) when it doesn't make sense to c) when you prescribe not wasting time testing his claim.

I have not skimmed. I am actually reading what you are writing. I don't understand how you can still accuse me of skimming when I am addressing every point in your post. Stop trying to shift attention. That post you made makes no sense. Any explanation of it has been weirdly worded, and in one case, false.

[Rodion]

Freezie, I think I can clarify part of your discussion with Yoshi (Yoshi, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). I think Yoshi is questioning one of your posts that are previous to the "bold unvote" one (the one immediately before it, as he said - not the one immediately after, as you apparently understood).

Yoshi's issue is with this page 49 post:

Either way it doesn't make sense in my eyes cause losing a prevent lynch on yourself power is nearly useless...we won't spend the whole damn game lynching you every days until you lose it..

Not with this page 50 post:

I completly misunderstood the part about your own lynch prevention, which confused me into thinking you could only used it on yourself.

changes a lot of things in my head now..

unvote

for the time beeing..

Either way, that doesn't explain your post. He is one-shot unlynchable. Unlynchable period doesn't enter the picture.

Either way it doesn't make sense in my eyes cause losing a prevent lynch on yourself power is nearly useless...we won't spend the whole damn game lynching you every days until you lose it..

What doesn't make sense? Lynching Rodion? Your vote was still on him at this point... At the very least, answer this question.

When he said that "at this point" your vote was on me, it really was, as you would only unvote later, on page 50.

[DoomYoshi]

Freezie, I think I can clarify part of your discussion with Yoshi (Yoshi, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). I think Yoshi is questioning one of your posts that are previous to the "bold unvote" one (the one immediately before it, as he said - not the one immediately after, as you apparently understood).

Yoshi's issue is with this page 49 post:

Either way it doesn't make sense in my eyes cause losing a prevent lynch on yourself power is nearly useless...we won't spend the whole damn game lynching you every days until you lose it..

Not with this page 50 post:

I completly misunderstood the part about your own lynch prevention, which confused me into thinking you could only used it on yourself.

changes a lot of things in my head now..

unvote

for the time beeing..

Either way, that doesn't explain your post. He is one-shot unlynchable. Unlynchable period doesn't enter the picture.

Either way it doesn't make sense in my eyes cause losing a prevent lynch on yourself power is nearly useless...we won't spend the whole damn game lynching you every days until you lose it..

What doesn't make sense? Lynching Rodion? Your vote was still on him at this point... At the very least, answer this question.

When he said that "at this point" your vote was on me, it really was, as you would only unvote later, on page 50.

QFT

[DoomYoshi]

Forgot red...

vote freezie

[freezie]

Either way it doesn't make sense in my eyes cause losing a prevent lynch on yourself power is nearly useless...we won't spend the whole damn game lynching you every days until you lose it..

This post meant that Rodion's claim, before he showed me I was wrong, made no sense in my eye as a one shot unlychable.

It beeing Rodion's claim, not Rodion's wagon.

Sorry for the confusion.

[DoomYoshi]

Phew... that was so hard to get out. unvote

[safariguy5]

Now it is clear. Thank you. Believe it or not, it was impossible to understand what you meant before as you use lots of words like "it" without reference to any particular thing. I understand that English isn't your first language, and it was becoming clear to me that a language barrier was the problem here. unvote

They had references. Everything I have said, I repeated it times and again for you. Read back the last 2 pages, where I said what I thought and rodion corrected me.



If this was baseball, you'd been out twice for 6 skimmings.

But since baseball's a 9-inning game he'd still have at least 1 more "at bat".

Unless he got pitch hit for.

That would be "pinch hit" for btw Chu.

And yes, Target has been bandwagonning and fipflopping rather hard, but everyone seems willing to extend the noob leash, so I'm not going to press it. Also, could be construed as "jumping on the easy lynch" and I'm sure freezie would love another opportunity to revote me.

[freezie]

Now it is clear. Thank you. Believe it or not, it was impossible to understand what you meant before as you use lots of words like "it" without reference to any particular thing. I understand that English isn't your first language, and it was becoming clear to me that a language barrier was the problem here. unvote

They had references. Everything I have said, I repeated it times and again for you. Read back the last 2 pages, where I said what I thought and rodion corrected me.



If this was baseball, you'd been out twice for 6 skimmings.

But since baseball's a 9-inning game he'd still have at least 1 more "at bat".

Unless he got pitch hit for.

That would be "pinch hit" for btw Chu.

And yes, Target has been bandwagonning and fipflopping rather hard, but everyone seems willing to extend the noob leash, so I'm not going to press it. Also, could be construed as "jumping on the easy lynch" and I'm sure freezie would love another opportunity to revote me.

Nice try to paint me as the demon that would jump down your throat on any given occasion.

For instance, I'd easily see why you would vote target. He has been mind switching every couple of post.

And I never accused you of trying to find the easy lynch, my main stone in why I voted you earlier today is about how you contradicted yourself on day 1.

[DoomYoshi]

It is no longer day 1. My rule is that I don't vote for n00bs on day 1. Day 2 and beyond that defense no longer works for me. If we are in favour of pressuring target, I am as well.