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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon May 30, 2011 10:45 pm

WTF chap? Now you are actually just voting random names...
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby chapcrap on Mon May 30, 2011 10:48 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:WTF chap? Now you are actually just voting random names...


Yep, because I want him to come out of the closet and talk already. I said something about it a little bit ago. If he comes to the thread and actually says something, then I'll take my vote away and move on to Commander9.
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon May 30, 2011 10:54 pm

Fair enough, so now we have 2 safs :lol:
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby safariguy5 on Tue May 31, 2011 1:13 am

DoomYoshi wrote:Fair enough, so now we have 2 safs :lol:

In lieu of a better case, you know I try to get the inactives active again. If it weren't for this terrible soup, I just might support pressuring kratos.
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby kratos644 on Tue May 31, 2011 3:28 am

Bloody hell it's really been quite long since I've posted in this one eh? Real life has been quite busy sorry about that. I was about to go to bed so let me rest then review what I've missed and I'll see if I don't have anyone that appears suspicious to me after.
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue May 31, 2011 7:39 am

safariguy5 wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Fair enough, so now we have 2 safs :lol:

In lieu of a better case, you know I try to get the inactives active again. If it weren't for this terrible soup, I just might support pressuring kratos.


Since you don't have a vote, and I'm not using mine, I can let you borrow mine for a bit.


kratos644 wrote:Bloody hell it's really been quite long since I've posted in this one eh? Real life has been quite busy sorry about that. I was about to go to bed so let me rest then review what I've missed and I'll see if I don't have anyone that appears suspicious to me after.


To make sure you don't conveniently "forget" about this promise... vote kratos
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby evilchaos on Tue May 31, 2011 7:40 am

chapcrap wrote:
evilchaos wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
evilchaos wrote:Here's the thing. 40k said he was Stan and could interview someone. Now he says he's going to investigate someone, like a cop. It appears he's changing around what he states his role is, in my opinion. I would like an explanation as to what your last post meant 40k.


Interview and investigate are a lot alike. He probably meant investigate/interrogate/interview. I think it was probably a slip.

40k, whatever your ability is, you should probably use it on someone other than safari. Of course, maybe he's smarter than he's acting and he was just trying to set a framer up to frame you and then investigate someone else. Who knows?

Either way, let's focus on someone else please (other than 40k and safari). How about kratos or Commander9? Anyone think they're scummy?


Why don't you want us to even question 40k? No harm can come from asking questions. This sounds incredibly scummy to me. You are literally throwing out random names to prevent us from asking questions of suspicious people, without offering any cases/analysis/etc.

Unvote (if needed) vote chapcrap


evil, you are so ridiculous. You're on my good list too! I've already given the reasons multiple times. If you're too lazy to go back and look what I've said, that's not my fault.

I'm gonna go ahead and vote kratos until he gives me a reason not too.


So I shouldn't question your actions just because you believe I'm town? lolwut?
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue May 31, 2011 8:04 am

Don't you know evilchaos? The godfather strategy only works if the person you are trying to assist/connect with actually plays the game on an emotional level instead of a rational one.

The godfather strategy (at least mine): try to associate with a person or persons and defend them any chance you get. If you get killed, they go down with you hopefully, and the warm fuzzy feeling you give them will make you unlikely to be voted by them.

So, evilchaos, he thinks you are fine. Just smile sweetly and play along :roll:
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby evilchaos on Tue May 31, 2011 8:16 am

DoomYoshi wrote:Don't you know evilchaos? The godfather strategy only works if the person you are trying to assist/connect with actually plays the game on an emotional level instead of a rational one.

The godfather strategy (at least mine): try to associate with a person or persons and defend them any chance you get. If you get killed, they go down with you hopefully, and the warm fuzzy feeling you give them will make you unlikely to be voted by them.

So, evilchaos, he thinks you are fine. Just smile sweetly and play along :roll:


lol. Does that strategy actually work most of the time?

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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby Commander9 on Tue May 31, 2011 11:50 am

First of all, as far as I'm aware, the message is not supposed to make anyone voteless. Second of all, there are 4 recipients - all the boys had to get it. If a particular person is not coming through, it is safe to assume that he has something to hide.

And question to all: Why would you assume that all 4 boys are pro-town?
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby chapcrap on Tue May 31, 2011 12:34 pm

evilchaos wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
evilchaos wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
evilchaos wrote:Here's the thing. 40k said he was Stan and could interview someone. Now he says he's going to investigate someone, like a cop. It appears he's changing around what he states his role is, in my opinion. I would like an explanation as to what your last post meant 40k.


Interview and investigate are a lot alike. He probably meant investigate/interrogate/interview. I think it was probably a slip.

40k, whatever your ability is, you should probably use it on someone other than safari. Of course, maybe he's smarter than he's acting and he was just trying to set a framer up to frame you and then investigate someone else. Who knows?

Either way, let's focus on someone else please (other than 40k and safari). How about kratos or Commander9? Anyone think they're scummy?


Why don't you want us to even question 40k? No harm can come from asking questions. This sounds incredibly scummy to me. You are literally throwing out random names to prevent us from asking questions of suspicious people, without offering any cases/analysis/etc.

Unvote (if needed) vote chapcrap


evil, you are so ridiculous. You're on my good list too! I've already given the reasons multiple times. If you're too lazy to go back and look what I've said, that's not my fault.

I'm gonna go ahead and vote kratos until he gives me a reason not too.


So I shouldn't question your actions just because you believe I'm town? lolwut?


No, you're supposed to get off your lazy butt and go look at the reasons I already said. That's twice now I've said that. Grow a brain.
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby evilchaos on Tue May 31, 2011 1:14 pm

chapcrap wrote:No, you're supposed to get off your lazy butt and go look at the reasons I already said. That's twice now I've said that. Grow a brain.


chapcrap wrote:Do I know for sure that 40k is Stan? No. But he did claim and there was no one to counter claim. So if he's not Stan, then whoever is Stan is being a dummy. That's why I believe him.



I've referenced back to your reasoning several times, and every time it still looks stupid. I've pointed out the flaws in your logic already, so I didn't think I needed to again. Maybe YOU should go back and read MY posts. You assume he's Stan because no one counterclaimed. How do we know there even is a Stan? It's likely, but not gauranteed. How do we know the real Stan isn't just inactive, which caused the lack of counterclaim (and God knows we have enough inactive people in here). Your reasoning goes something like this:

Hey guys. I'm the character Jesus. Now we all know Jesus is a pretty significant character in South Park, and he is the main subject of many episodes. Of course he would exist in this game if there are a full 13 characters. I'm obviously town, so don't question me. Also, I may skim through the thread, vote for people based on my primal "gut" instincts, and vote random people while supplying no reasoning at all, but once again, I would like to remind you that I'm Jesus. Jesus fucking Christ. Move along now. These are not the droids you're looking for.

This logic simply doesn't work. 40k is not confirmed town based only on his claim. His claim is a big + for him being town, but I'm looking at the big picture. He has played like scum the entire game. I'm not even saying we should lynch him, just that we should question him. How is that a big deal? Why are we even arguing about this? Why did you feel the need to resort to insults in order to prevent me from asking some questions of another player?
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby Commander9 on Tue May 31, 2011 1:19 pm

evilchaos wrote:I've referenced back to your reasoning several times, and every time it still looks stupid. I've pointed out the flaws in your logic already, so I didn't think I needed to again. Maybe YOU should go back and read MY posts. You assume he's Stan because no one counterclaimed. How do we know there even is a Stan? It's likely, but not gauranteed. How do we know the real Stan isn't just inactive, which caused the lack of counterclaim (and God knows we have enough inactive people in here). Your reasoning goes something like this:

Hey guys. I'm the character Jesus. Now we all know Jesus is a pretty significant character in South Park, and he is the main subject of many episodes. Of course he would exist in this game if there are a full 13 characters. I'm obviously town, so don't question me. Also, I may skim through the thread, vote for people based on my primal "gut" instincts, and vote random people while supplying no reasoning at all, but once again, I would like to remind you that I'm Jesus. Jesus fucking Christ. Move along now. These are not the droids you're looking for.

This logic simply doesn't work. 40k is not confirmed town based only on his claim. His claim is a big + for him being town, but I'm looking at the big picture. He has played like scum the entire game. I'm not even saying we should lynch him, just that we should question him. How is that a big deal? Why are we even arguing about this? Why did you feel the need to resort to insults in order to prevent me from asking some questions of another player?


Well, he didn't mention the message from Chef which was only supposed to be sent to the four boys, so that somewhat confirms him.
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue May 31, 2011 1:29 pm

Commander9 wrote:
evilchaos wrote:I've referenced back to your reasoning several times, and every time it still looks stupid. I've pointed out the flaws in your logic already, so I didn't think I needed to again. Maybe YOU should go back and read MY posts. You assume he's Stan because no one counterclaimed. How do we know there even is a Stan? It's likely, but not gauranteed. How do we know the real Stan isn't just inactive, which caused the lack of counterclaim (and God knows we have enough inactive people in here). Your reasoning goes something like this:

Hey guys. I'm the character Jesus. Now we all know Jesus is a pretty significant character in South Park, and he is the main subject of many episodes. Of course he would exist in this game if there are a full 13 characters. I'm obviously town, so don't question me. Also, I may skim through the thread, vote for people based on my primal "gut" instincts, and vote random people while supplying no reasoning at all, but once again, I would like to remind you that I'm Jesus. Jesus fucking Christ. Move along now. These are not the droids you're looking for.

This logic simply doesn't work. 40k is not confirmed town based only on his claim. His claim is a big + for him being town, but I'm looking at the big picture. He has played like scum the entire game. I'm not even saying we should lynch him, just that we should question him. How is that a big deal? Why are we even arguing about this? Why did you feel the need to resort to insults in order to prevent me from asking some questions of another player?


Well, he didn't mention the message from Chef which was only supposed to be sent to the four boys, so that somewhat confirms him.


Stan is one of the 4 boys and he did mention the message, just not first...
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby Commander9 on Tue May 31, 2011 1:35 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Stan is one of the 4 boys and he did mention the message, just not first...


Easily testable - he will be the 1st to tell the message that he receives tonight. Don't see any problems here whatsoever.
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby evilchaos on Tue May 31, 2011 1:48 pm

@Commander. How do you know for sure the message was sent to all boys? How do you know for sure there will be more messages?
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby Talapus on Tue May 31, 2011 1:50 pm

Commander9 wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Stan is one of the 4 boys and he did mention the message, just not first...


Easily testable - he will be the 1st to tell the message that he receives tonight. Don't see any problems here whatsoever.


Ok I get it now. All four boys got the note from chef but it doesn't make them all voteless. Thats believable as they all go to chef for help. I still don't buy that Cartman is town, but it's possible if the mod put in a different scum group. Whatever happens though I wouldn't trust Cartman. I assume some of you can talk to each other at night so just be careful. I'm sure his role lets him throw you under a bus should he feel like it.

Chap, evil made some good points against you and you seem to get flustered and upset very easily by it. Honestly I think the two of you are arguing now just to argue and neither one will convince the other. Instead of focusing on eachother though maybe focus towards an inactive and you two can find some common ground.

I just can't bring myself to think of something for my charater at the moment. Sorry all, his all around wholesome goodness grates on my nerves. Maybe next time...lol
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby evilchaos on Tue May 31, 2011 1:55 pm

Talapus wrote:
Commander9 wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Stan is one of the 4 boys and he did mention the message, just not first...


Easily testable - he will be the 1st to tell the message that he receives tonight. Don't see any problems here whatsoever.


Ok I get it now. All four boys got the note from chef but it doesn't make them all voteless. Thats believable as they all go to chef for help. I still don't buy that Cartman is town, but it's possible if the mod put in a different scum group. Whatever happens though I wouldn't trust Cartman. I assume some of you can talk to each other at night so just be careful. I'm sure his role lets him throw you under a bus should he feel like it.

Chap, evil made some good points against you and you seem to get flustered and upset very easily by it. Honestly I think the two of you are arguing now just to argue and neither one will convince the other. Instead of focusing on eachother though maybe focus towards an inactive and you two can find some common ground.

I just can't bring myself to think of something for my charater at the moment. Sorry all, his all around wholesome goodness grates on my nerves. Maybe next time...lol


I honestly didn't mean to get in an argument with chap. Kind of got pissed off when he started slinging insults at me instead of responding to anything I said.

I'm ready to focus on commander for the moment.
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby Commander9 on Tue May 31, 2011 3:12 pm

evilchaos wrote:@Commander. How do you know for sure the message was sent to all boys? How do you know for sure there will be more messages?


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You still can't figure it out?...

evilchaos wrote:I'm ready to focus on commander for the moment.


Focus on me? With what? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby safariguy5 on Tue May 31, 2011 3:25 pm

Commander9 wrote:
evilchaos wrote:@Commander. How do you know for sure the message was sent to all boys? How do you know for sure there will be more messages?


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You still can't figure it out?...

evilchaos wrote:I'm ready to focus on commander for the moment.


Focus on me? With what? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah I have to say chaos...not real good at reading between the lines. So who gave me this bloody awful soup that makes me more useless than a broken anal thermometer?
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue May 31, 2011 3:29 pm

Commander9 wrote:Well, he didn't mention the message from Chef which was only supposed to be sent to the four boys, so that somewhat confirms him.
DoomYoshi wrote:Stan is one of the 4 boys and he did mention the message, just not first...


Easily testable - he will be the 1st to tell the message that he receives tonight. Don't see any problems here whatsoever.


The problem is that you said he didn't mention the message... which he did.

Then you said it was supposedly sent to the four boys... of which he is one of.

Then you said that it confirms him, which it wouldn't have.

There are 3 major problems here.

Also, we should aim to try and find chef today so, ideally, it won't be testable.
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue May 31, 2011 3:31 pm

safariguy5 wrote:
Commander9 wrote:
evilchaos wrote:@Commander. How do you know for sure the message was sent to all boys? How do you know for sure there will be more messages?


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You still can't figure it out?...

evilchaos wrote:I'm ready to focus on commander for the moment.


Focus on me? With what? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah I have to say chaos...not real good at reading between the lines. So who gave me this bloody awful soup that makes me more useless than a broken anal thermometer?


C'mon broken anal thermometers aren't that bad... and you are not useless. You can vote using me as a proxy... for now.
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby Commander9 on Tue May 31, 2011 3:33 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:The problem is that you said he didn't mention the message... which he did.

Then you said it was supposedly sent to the four boys... of which he is one of.

Then you said that it confirms him, which it wouldn't have.

There are 3 major problems here.

Also, we should aim to try and find chef today so, ideally, it won't be testable.


Typo. I meant to say that he did mention it.
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue May 31, 2011 3:34 pm

Ok, gotcha.
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Re: South Park Mafia [Day 2]

Postby 40kguy on Tue May 31, 2011 3:35 pm

Commander9 wrote:
evilchaos wrote:I've referenced back to your reasoning several times, and every time it still looks stupid. I've pointed out the flaws in your logic already, so I didn't think I needed to again. Maybe YOU should go back and read MY posts. You assume he's Stan because no one counterclaimed. How do we know there even is a Stan? It's likely, but not gauranteed. How do we know the real Stan isn't just inactive, which caused the lack of counterclaim (and God knows we have enough inactive people in here). Your reasoning goes something like this:

Hey guys. I'm the character Jesus. Now we all know Jesus is a pretty significant character in South Park, and he is the main subject of many episodes. Of course he would exist in this game if there are a full 13 characters. I'm obviously town, so don't question me. Also, I may skim through the thread, vote for people based on my primal "gut" instincts, and vote random people while supplying no reasoning at all, but once again, I would like to remind you that I'm Jesus. Jesus fucking Christ. Move along now. These are not the droids you're looking for.

This logic simply doesn't work. 40k is not confirmed town based only on his claim. His claim is a big + for him being town, but I'm looking at the big picture. He has played like scum the entire game. I'm not even saying we should lynch him, just that we should question him. How is that a big deal? Why are we even arguing about this? Why did you feel the need to resort to insults in order to prevent me from asking some questions of another player?


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Well, he didn't mention the message from Chef which was only supposed to be sent to the four boys, so that somewhat confirms him.

I did

chap, yes he is right, it was a slip

evil, I'm a noob, so i probably am playing like a noob who is probably a lot like scum.

chap, your right, I probably go investigate someone else besides saf. Now im not saying i will or wont investigate him just saying im reconsidering.
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