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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Thu May 26, 2011 7:15 pm

chapcrap wrote:My name is Lucky Robinson. I'm a 38 year old Australian gambler. I can pick up to 4 other people to play against every night and blocks roles. I set odds against them. If I say 4 others players and 2 role blocks, then there are 5 of us in the game and 2 people will have their role blocked randomly. I could have my own role blocked and not be able to do anything the next night.

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So let me get this straight. You are saying that at night you can name four people and roleblock all of them? Or any number of them that you want for that matter? All of this at the risk of not being able to use your ability the next night. Am I correct?
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby Anarkistsdream on Thu May 26, 2011 7:18 pm

How do you play the game? How would you block yourself?

I don't buy it at all.
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby evilchaos on Thu May 26, 2011 8:03 pm

Mr. Squirrel wrote:
chapcrap wrote:My name is Lucky Robinson. I'm a 38 year old Australian gambler. I can pick up to 4 other people to play against every night and blocks roles. I set odds against them. If I say 4 others players and 2 role blocks, then there are 5 of us in the game and 2 people will have their role blocked randomly. I could have my own role blocked and not be able to do anything the next night.

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So let me get this straight. You are saying that at night you can name four people and roleblock all of them? Or any number of them that you want for that matter? All of this at the risk of not being able to use your ability the next night. Am I correct?


I think he was saying he chooses up to four other people (not including himself) and two out of the chosen and him get roleblocked randomly.

So if he chooses the max of 4 people, then he has a 40% chance of blocking himself (5 people total).
Chooses 3 --> 50% chance
Chooses 2 --> 66% chance
Chooses 1 --> 100% chance (but a gauranteed role block on his target)

I have a question for you as well chapcrap. Do you find out who you blocked? Or are the results never revealed to you.
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby Commander9 on Thu May 26, 2011 8:07 pm

evilchaos wrote:I think he was saying he chooses up to four other people (not including himself) and two out of the chosen and him get roleblocked randomly.

So if he chooses the max of 4 people, then he has a 40% chance of blocking himself (5 people total).
Chooses 3 --> 50% chance
Chooses 2 --> 66% chance
Chooses 1 --> 100% chance (but a gauranteed role block on his target)

I have a question for you as well chapcrap. Do you find out who you blocked? Or are the results never revealed to you.


That's how understood it as well. Furthermore, it easily testable, so I would refrain from conclusions until tomorrow (This doesn't look like mafia roleblocker).
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby evilchaos on Thu May 26, 2011 8:07 pm

Commander9 wrote:
evilchaos wrote:I think he was saying he chooses up to four other people (not including himself) and two out of the chosen and him get roleblocked randomly.

So if he chooses the max of 4 people, then he has a 40% chance of blocking himself (5 people total).
Chooses 3 --> 50% chance
Chooses 2 --> 66% chance
Chooses 1 --> 100% chance (but a gauranteed role block on his target)

I have a question for you as well chapcrap. Do you find out who you blocked? Or are the results never revealed to you.


That's how understood it as well. Furthermore, it easily testable, so I would refrain from conclusions until tomorrow (This doesn't look like mafia roleblocker).


How is it testable?
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby VioIet on Thu May 26, 2011 8:20 pm

Commander9 wrote:Unvote. Judging from my own role, this looks more than legit.


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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby pancakemix on Thu May 26, 2011 8:58 pm

evilchaos wrote:
Commander9 wrote:
evilchaos wrote:I think he was saying he chooses up to four other people (not including himself) and two out of the chosen and him get roleblocked randomly.

So if he chooses the max of 4 people, then he has a 40% chance of blocking himself (5 people total).
Chooses 3 --> 50% chance
Chooses 2 --> 66% chance
Chooses 1 --> 100% chance (but a gauranteed role block on his target)

I have a question for you as well chapcrap. Do you find out who you blocked? Or are the results never revealed to you.


That's how understood it as well. Furthermore, it easily testable, so I would refrain from conclusions until tomorrow (This doesn't look like mafia roleblocker).


How is it testable?


I don't think it really is. There's too much chance involved.

I also believe this role to be legit, but honestly I think it's far to haphazard to be even remotely useful. Even if we do get that guaranteed block, he's only useful every other night. That's not what I'd call practical.
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby evilchaos on Thu May 26, 2011 9:02 pm

Well, I think his best course of action to use his role is to pick the four most likely scum candidates and choose them. That would lower his chances greatly of getting blocked himself.
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby Anarkistsdream on Thu May 26, 2011 9:07 pm

OK, OK... After having it explained, I think I may buy it.

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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Thu May 26, 2011 10:42 pm

Yes, with the detail he posted, either he did a bag up job of fake claiming or that is his real role, or slash gives mafia scum fakeclaims (mafia's been killed already).
I was about to ask for his N1 actions and then remembered this is not asylum mafia.
I have a question for you, chap. Can you roleblock during the day? And who do you intend to roleblock tonight?
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby F1fth on Thu May 26, 2011 11:27 pm

From my understanding chap's claim, not only does he choose up to four players to be potentially blocked, but he also chooses the number that will get blocked (not necessarily two).

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show: Convenient Chart

It's actually quite a clever role and why I buy the claim. I don't know about blocking as many as possible as we're liable to screw up power roles. On the other hand, we'd have a bigger chance of actually preventing a kill and narrowing down the suspect list to the people blocked, and in which case we'd achieve the goals our power roles are supposed to accomplish anyway.

As for suspects, I'd say our daykiller is likely to be among the handful of people who dropped off in posting around 4-5 days ago right before shield's murder and the whole evil v. chap thing. I'm not so certain where to find mafia though, or even what exactly we're looking for given that they're supposedly dead.
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Fri May 27, 2011 12:48 am

Mr. Squirrel wrote:
chapcrap wrote:My name is Lucky Robinson. I'm a 38 year old Australian gambler. I can pick up to 4 other people to play against every night and blocks roles. I set odds against them. If I say 4 others players and 2 role blocks, then there are 5 of us in the game and 2 people will have their role blocked randomly. I could have my own role blocked and not be able to do anything the next night.

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So let me get this straight. You are saying that at night you can name four people and roleblock all of them? Or any number of them that you want for that matter? All of this at the risk of not being able to use your ability the next night. Am I correct?

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F1fth wrote:From my understanding chap's claim, not only does he choose up to four players to be potentially blocked, but he also chooses the number that will get blocked (not necessarily two).

I.E.
show: Convenient Chart

It's actually quite a clever role and why I buy the claim. I don't know about blocking as many as possible as we're liable to screw up power roles. On the other hand, we'd have a bigger chance of actually preventing a kill and narrowing down the suspect list to the people blocked, and in which case we'd achieve the goals our power roles are supposed to accomplish anyway.

That's the impression I was under as well. And I agree that the role is really clever. Not only does it give some measure of freedom and strategy to its user, but it also serves to limit the large amount of powerful roles that (/ claims) are in this game. I'm thinking the role could be used as an investigative role as well and could clear groups of up to four people per night. Its almost too powerful if you ask me.
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby Streaker on Fri May 27, 2011 12:49 am

Tough call. The role itself fits the theme, and with the level of detail I'm pretty sure it's his actual role. But I think it can easily be a scum role. I mean, why not? With all these rather special roles in the game, why would scum be any different?

If we would know for certain there is no mafia in the game, it would help me believe the town claim. This role would be a good one for mafia.
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby Streaker on Fri May 27, 2011 12:51 am

Streaker wrote:Tough call. The role itself fits the theme, and with the level of detail I'm pretty sure it's his actual role. But I think it can easily be a scum role. I mean, why not? With all these rather special roles in the game, why would scum be any different?

If we would know for certain there is no mafia in the game, it would help me believe the town claim. This role would be a good one for mafia.


An addition: like the above post, this role seems almost too powerfull for a 'probably' overloaded town. On the other hand, to scum it would be most usefull if they can block up to 4 players per night (every other night). It would be a perfect role to counter a very powerfull town...
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Fri May 27, 2011 2:24 am

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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby chapcrap on Fri May 27, 2011 7:34 am

F1fth wrote:From my understanding chap's claim, not only does he choose up to four players to be potentially blocked, but he also chooses the number that will get blocked (not necessarily two).

I.E.
show: Convenient Chart

It's actually quite a clever role and why I buy the claim. I don't know about blocking as many as possible as we're liable to screw up power roles. On the other hand, we'd have a bigger chance of actually preventing a kill and narrowing down the suspect list to the people blocked, and in which case we'd achieve the goals our power roles are supposed to accomplish anyway.

As for suspects, I'd say our daykiller is likely to be among the handful of people who dropped off in posting around 4-5 days ago right before shield's murder and the whole evil v. chap thing. I'm not so certain where to find mafia though, or even what exactly we're looking for given that they're supposedly dead.


This chart is pretty much correct. I choose how many to block every night. I'm not sure who I'm looking at to block right now. Someone asked about me doing it during the day...I don't know. I assumed it was a night ability, but maybe I can do it during the day. I'll have to ask the mod.
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby Commander9 on Fri May 27, 2011 2:18 pm

chapcrap wrote:This chart is pretty much correct. I choose how many to block every night. I'm not sure who I'm looking at to block right now. Someone asked about me doing it during the day...I don't know. I assumed it was a night ability, but maybe I can do it during the day. I'll have to ask the mod.


If you don't mind, please state who you will block, so we could check whether you are telling the truth. I know who I'd want to block, but I won't force my opinion on anyone else.
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby / on Fri May 27, 2011 3:04 pm

Vote Count:

safariguy5 (1) - Fircoal
Mr. Squirrel (3) - TA1LGUNN3R, Iliad, VioIet
evilchaos (1) - pancakemix
chapcrap (1) - evilchaos
F1fth (1) - ShaggyDan

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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby Talapus on Fri May 27, 2011 3:14 pm

/ wrote:Only 5 days left! don't make me remind you all what happens with indecisiveness. :twisted:



Well, be a good mod and point us towards scum then we won't have to be indecisive :lol:. Seriously though, I'm better then everyone in here. If you didn't know that, you do know. Consider yourself informed.
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Deadline May 1st

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Fri May 27, 2011 3:22 pm

well unless vote patterns change Mr. Squirrel's gonna hit the chopping block cause he has the most votes (if no lynch is decided upon then at deadline the person with most votes is lynched). So, unvote in case I haven't yet.
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Deadline May 1st

Postby safariguy5 on Fri May 27, 2011 3:40 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:well unless vote patterns change Mr. Squirrel's gonna hit the chopping block cause he has the most votes (if no lynch is decided upon then at deadline the person with most votes is lynched). So, unvote in case I haven't yet.

Really? I remember / always has a 50% no lynch and 50% chance that most votes is lynched.
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Deadline May 1st

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Fri May 27, 2011 3:56 pm

safariguy5 wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:well unless vote patterns change Mr. Squirrel's gonna hit the chopping block cause he has the most votes (if no lynch is decided upon then at deadline the person with most votes is lynched). So, unvote in case I haven't yet.

Really? I remember / always has a 50% no lynch and 50% chance that most votes is lynched.

really. Last I checked the rules (rule #8) state that whoever has the most votes at deadline will be lynched, but if there's a tie then someone gets lynched at random.
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Deadline May 1st

Postby safariguy5 on Fri May 27, 2011 3:58 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:well unless vote patterns change Mr. Squirrel's gonna hit the chopping block cause he has the most votes (if no lynch is decided upon then at deadline the person with most votes is lynched). So, unvote in case I haven't yet.

Really? I remember / always has a 50% no lynch and 50% chance that most votes is lynched.

really. Last I checked the rules (rule #8) state that whoever has the most votes at deadline will be lynched, but if there's a tie then someone gets lynched at random.

Read it again, surviving or deadline killed.
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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Fri May 27, 2011 4:28 pm

/ wrote:Vote Count:

safariguy5 (1) - Fircoal
Mr. Squirrel (3) - TA1LGUNN3R, Iliad, VioIet
evilchaos (1) - pancakemix
chapcrap (1) - evilchaos
F1fth (1) - ShaggyDan

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Re: Resort Mafia Day One: Six Dead! oh wait...

Postby chapcrap on Fri May 27, 2011 8:30 pm

Commander9 wrote:
chapcrap wrote:This chart is pretty much correct. I choose how many to block every night. I'm not sure who I'm looking at to block right now. Someone asked about me doing it during the day...I don't know. I assumed it was a night ability, but maybe I can do it during the day. I'll have to ask the mod.


If you don't mind, please state who you will block, so we could check whether you are telling the truth. I know who I'd want to block, but I won't force my opinion on anyone else.


I don't know yet. You can tell me who would try to block. I still have 5 days to figure it out.
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