Asylum Mafia-Endgame-Cult Wins!

[evilchaos]

John Smith should be king of the world! Also:

What are your thoughts on the other two busdrivers, Sully? Do you think one or both are using fake claims?

@Mod: Do we have any deadline?

[Victor Sullivan]

John Smith should be king of the world! Also:

What are your thoughts on the other two busdrivers, Sully? Do you think one or both are using fake claims?

@Mod: Do we have any deadline?

I think one of them may be lying, though given the theme I don't think it would be unheard of to have more than one busdriver. In terms of modding, I feel like it would be difficult to figure out where the actions go

To be honest, I think the more scummy candidate here is evilchaos.

-Sully

[evilchaos]

To be honest, I think the more scummy candidate here is evilchaos.

And why is that? I can't defend myself if you don't provide any reasons at all for thinking that I'm scummy.

[DoomYoshi]

To be honest, I think the more scummy candidate here is evilchaos.

And why is that? I can't defend myself if you don't provide any reasons at all for thinking that I'm scummy.

Yes you can... that's how things go in the asylum!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

It would work with 3 busdrivers if there was one town/one third-party/one mafia. I don't think saf is the mafia one as he was the second to claim...

I think we should either go with the first or third claimee (based on previous crazy setups...) We could also investigate the possibility that saf is third-party...

[safariguy5]

To be honest, I think the more scummy candidate here is evilchaos.

And why is that? I can't defend myself if you don't provide any reasons at all for thinking that I'm scummy.

Yes you can... that's how things go in the asylum!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

It would work with 3 busdrivers if there was one town/one third-party/one mafia. I don't think saf is the mafia one as he was the second to claim...

I think we should either go with the first or third claimee (based on previous crazy setups...) We could also investigate the possibility that saf is third-party...

I can't prove that I'm not third party, but three busdrivers does seem like a good probability for town/mafia/third party.

To me, it seems like Sully's recent comments look like he's trying set town up for a lynch of evilchaos on very weak grounds after today. It looks like he's trying to suggest offing chaos with no proof now, but by laying the accusation today, any future scummy post by chaos could be seized by Sully as proof of his guilt and Sully can point to how he though chaos was scummy on Day 1. And if you really thought chaos was scummier sully, why not vote him instead?

Add to you making up a pr, and getting called out on it by evilchaos (who has seemed pretty townish to me so far) gives me enough reasons to unvote vote Victor Sullivan

[evilchaos]

I still would like to hear Sully's actual accusations against me. He just said I looked scummy and then stopped. Any proof?

It doesn't matter either way. John Smith believes in me, and that's enough for me. He's the only one whose opinion really matters.

[Commander9]

If you would notice, the whole game he has been very manipulative and I think he's playing somewhat alike like in PotC - he's somewhat active, gets enough attention, doesn't contribute much and tries to throw others under the bus. Since this is Day 1, there are no crystal clear cases, but this one looks as good as we're going to get.

Unvote. Vote sully.

[evilchaos]

Agreed.

FoS Sully

I'll add my vote in two days or so if he fails to state why he claimed I was scummy. Making such an unjustified claim AND not putting a vote on me (a.k.a. not wanting to be seen starting a bandwagon) makes him seem awfully suspicious.

[evilchaos]

Agreed.

FoS Sully

I'll add my vote in two days or so if he fails to state why he claimed I was scummy. Making such an unjustified claim AND not putting a vote on me (a.k.a. not wanting to be seen starting a bandwagon) makes him seem awfully suspicious.

EBWOP: I realized 2 seconds after I clicked submit that I failed to mention the magnificance of John Smith, so allow this edit to do so. John Smith is just about the best darn explorer ever. He can easily out explore anyone in this game. You think you're good at exploring for scum? I'm sure he can do it better. He's that good, people.

[Commander9]

EBWOP: I realized 2 seconds after I clicked submit that I failed to mention the magnificance of John Smith, so allow this edit to do so. John Smith is just about the best darn explorer ever. He can easily out explore anyone in this game. You think you're good at exploring for scum? I'm sure he can do it better. He's that good, people.

It's very good that you had that realization - as soon as you've posted electricity went through my head and it lighted the light bulb!

[evilchaos]

EBWOP: I realized 2 seconds after I clicked submit that I failed to mention the magnificance of John Smith, so allow this edit to do so. John Smith is just about the best darn explorer ever. He can easily out explore anyone in this game. You think you're good at exploring for scum? I'm sure he can do it better. He's that good, people.

It's very good that you had that realization - as soon as you've posted electricity went through my head and it lighted the light bulb!

Yeah, I remembered literally as I was pressing the button and wanted to hit my head against a wall. It's hard to remember a PR when you're playing in multiple games at one time.

John Smith is a higher form of human. He was here before us, and he will be here after us. He is a person, a power, an idea. John Smith is a way of life. We should all thank God for his existence, or more accurately, we should thank John Smith.

[shieldgenerator7]

whoa, ok. funny PR sully you tricked us all!
That being said, it is mre likely than not that scum would make up a pr, so Sully is looking rather in the red zone. Alternatively, what if he did have a PR, but decided that he would stop using it? Would he be mod-killed or would the mod let him get away with not using his pr? I mean sheep (it was sheep right?) had a pr but got the mod to allow him to not have to use it because it was so horrible... maybe Sully decided to stop using his pr. But the question is... why?
But it's mre likely he never had one in the first place, and made one up just to fit in. scummyy...
However, not as scummy as him claiming evilchaos is scummy with no explanation... and his bus driver claim. He's probably scum trying to get either snow or saf lynched . IDK, but it is suspicious. However, it is possible that they all are busdrivers
If that is so, then it would cause a lot of chaos during the night. I think a good strategy for the busdrivers would be for them to busdrive each other. That way no one can for sure target them and be sure they'll get the right person, meaning they'll be more protected. Just a suggestion.
But I think it's more likely there's only 1 busdriver, and then it comes down to... who do we trust more? I doubt that saf would intentionally counterclaim snow with the intetion of getting him lynched unless he is scum, and I doubt Sully's claim becuase of the three reasons mentioned above... so if there's only one busdriver I'd say it's probably saf.
I'd hate to see snow get lynched right now, and personally find Sully more scummy, so I'll Vote Sully

[shieldgenerator7]

ok so now Sully's at L-1 because of the votes on him and MeDeFe's joke vote on him.
also, I noticed that snow voted evilchaos right after Sully did. Possibly an alignment? Or maybe it's just an OMGUS vote, but suspicious that it's right after Sully's.
so yeah I think Sully and snow sound scummy right now, tho I'd say Sully's case has more evidence and he sounds more suspicious

[safariguy5]

whoa, ok. funny PR sully you tricked us all!
That being said, it is mre likely than not that scum would make up a pr, so Sully is looking rather in the red zone. Alternatively, what if he did have a PR, but decided that he would stop using it? Would he be mod-killed or would the mod let him get away with not using his pr? I mean sheep (it was sheep right?) had a pr but got the mod to allow him to not have to use it because it was so horrible... maybe Sully decided to stop using his pr. But the question is... why?
But it's mre likely he never had one in the first place, and made one up just to fit in. scummyy...
However, not as scummy as him claiming evilchaos is scummy with no explanation... and his bus driver claim. He's probably scum trying to get either snow or saf lynched . IDK, but it is suspicious. However, it is possible that they all are busdrivers
If that is so, then it would cause a lot of chaos during the night. I think a good strategy for the busdrivers would be for them to busdrive each other. That way no one can for sure target them and be sure they'll get the right person, meaning they'll be more protected. Just a suggestion.
But I think it's more likely there's only 1 busdriver, and then it comes down to... who do we trust more? I doubt that saf would intentionally counterclaim snow with the intetion of getting him lynched unless he is scum, and I doubt Sully's claim becuase of the three reasons mentioned above... so if there's only one busdriver I'd say it's probably saf.
I'd hate to see snow get lynched right now, and personally find Sully more scummy, so I'll Vote Sully

I think it was edoc who got out of his PR. I have seen the standard punishment for not sticking with your PR is losing your night action, but making a pr and then admitting it was fake is not a good thing to do especially since we already agreed that people shouldn't make them up.

[DoomYoshi]

whoa, ok. funny PR sully you tricked us all!
That being said, it is mre likely than not that scum would make up a pr, so Sully is looking rather in the red zone. Alternatively, what if he did have a PR, but decided that he would stop using it? Would he be mod-killed or would the mod let him get away with not using his pr? I mean sheep (it was sheep right?) had a pr but got the mod to allow him to not have to use it because it was so horrible... maybe Sully decided to stop using his pr. But the question is... why?
But it's mre likely he never had one in the first place, and made one up just to fit in. scummyy...
However, not as scummy as him claiming evilchaos is scummy with no explanation... and his bus driver claim. He's probably scum trying to get either snow or saf lynched . IDK, but it is suspicious. However, it is possible that they all are busdrivers
If that is so, then it would cause a lot of chaos during the night. I think a good strategy for the busdrivers would be for them to busdrive each other. That way no one can for sure target them and be sure they'll get the right person, meaning they'll be more protected. Just a suggestion.
But I think it's more likely there's only 1 busdriver, and then it comes down to... who do we trust more? I doubt that saf would intentionally counterclaim snow with the intetion of getting him lynched unless he is scum, and I doubt Sully's claim becuase of the three reasons mentioned above... so if there's only one busdriver I'd say it's probably saf.
I'd hate to see snow get lynched right now, and personally find Sully more scummy, so I'll Vote Sully

I think it was edoc who got out of his PR. I have seen the standard punishment for not sticking with your PR is losing your night action, but making a pr and then admitting it was fake is not a good thing to do especially since we already agreed that people shouldn't make them up.

On the other hand, he might have wanted to get out of it now before it was too late. Since he has already claimed I think we need an explanation of his actions. I am not quite sure why he (or snow) voted for evilchaos in the first place.

[snowvillage]

To be honest, I think the more scummy candidate here is evilchaos.

And why is that? I can't defend myself if you don't provide any reasons at all for thinking that I'm scummy.

Yes you can... that's how things go in the asylum!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

It would work with 3 busdrivers if there was one town/one third-party/one mafia. I don't think saf is the mafia one as he was the second to claim...

I think we should either go with the first or third claimee (based on previous crazy setups...) We could also investigate the possibility that saf is third-party...

Why is the second claim the all-important claim? If there's another busdriver out there, I trust the third claim more than the second. It's the third claim that's dedicated to his craft and not afraid to back down when he sees everyone else claiming glory for themselves. This is why the second claim, safariguy, is giving me a more heinous vibe. And look at Sully's dance throughout this day. He pretends to be someone he's not, rejects that shell, and comes out with his supposedly real self - that's such craziness man! Why would he risk all that if he had evil intentions? The attention would be too harsh for a paranoid murderer.

Unvote evilchaos

[evilchaos]

Vote Sully

He has failed to explain his vote against me and his aggressive actions. This lynch is the best way to see how we should proceed forward, especially considering the multiple bus driver claims. With how suspicious he has seemed, I think that Sully could easily be scum. If he is actually a busdriver, it isn't really a HUGE deal, although I'm definitely shooting for being correct. We've got three alleged busdrivers after all.

This will also shed some light on Snow. He also placed a vote on me for little reason and then removed it after Sully began to be pressured. It seems like they could be connected.

John Smith should be the king of the world and the universe (and the multiverse, if such a thing exists). He is superior to us all.

[naxus]

Vote Count

Com9(1)-Doom
ShieldGen(0)
EvilChaos(1)-Victor
Snowvillage(1)-Edocsil
Victor(5)-Mefede, Safari, Com9, Shieldgen, Evilchaos
Mefede(0)-
Safariguy(0)
Doomyoshi(0)
Edocsil(0)

9 alive, 5 to lynch


Thats a lynch. Scene coming up in a sec

[DoomYoshi]

To be honest, I think the more scummy candidate here is evilchaos.

And why is that? I can't defend myself if you don't provide any reasons at all for thinking that I'm scummy.

Yes you can... that's how things go in the asylum!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

It would work with 3 busdrivers if there was one town/one third-party/one mafia. I don't think saf is the mafia one as he was the second to claim...

I think we should either go with the first or third claimee (based on previous crazy setups...) We could also investigate the possibility that saf is third-party...

Why is the second claim the all-important claim? If there's another busdriver out there, I trust the third claim more than the second. It's the third claim that's dedicated to his craft and not afraid to back down when he sees everyone else claiming glory for themselves. This is why the second claim, safariguy, is giving me a more heinous vibe. And look at Sully's dance throughout this day. He pretends to be someone he's not, rejects that shell, and comes out with his supposedly real self - that's such craziness man! Why would he risk all that if he had evil intentions? The attention would be too harsh for a paranoid murderer.

Unvote evilchaos

The second claim is the all-important claim as no scum is silly enough to fakeclaim this early in the game. You could also say that no scum would be willing to claim and focus attention on himself this early but that approaches WIFOMland so I will leave it alone. The third claim could easily be a fake one as it wouldn't be noticed as much.

So I reverse the question: why would you trust the third claim more than the second?

The fact that you are defending Sully only digs yourself in deeper. You have gone too deep I believe. I am starting to think there are two fakeclaims here.

Don't let me down and give me an answer as I'm in love for the first time.

[safariguy5]

Well hopefully the lynch can shed some light on the situation.

[DoomYoshi]

Well hopefully the lynch can shed some light on the situation.

Are you saying I should drop the Maxwell Silverhammer?

[Victor Sullivan]

Vote Sully

He has failed to explain his vote against me and his aggressive actions. This lynch is the best way to see how we should proceed forward, especially considering the multiple bus driver claims. With how suspicious he has seemed, I think that Sully could easily be scum. If he is actually a busdriver, it isn't really a HUGE deal, although I'm definitely shooting for being correct. We've got three alleged busdrivers after all.

This will also shed some light on Snow. He also placed a vote on me for little reason and then removed it after Sully began to be pressured. It seems like they could be connected.

John Smith should be the king of the world and the universe (and the multiverse, if such a thing exists). He is superior to us all.

My proof. Shields, I'm sorry, but it was foolish to push me to L-1 so evilchaos could swoop in like this. And why the hell would I claim busdriver after two people already did? Wouldn't I try to push for a snow lynch, given the counterclaim? I voted evilchaos earlier, because of his jumping on the Sully lynch so quickly after I claimed:

Well, 4 (or 5) cops or doctors is possible... why not busdrivers? They are very popular here... Just like they are Back in the USSR

Wasn't there something said about mafia making up PR's to blend in? Do we want to pursue this admission by Victor about not having a PR?

Whoa, whoa, whoa... First of all, I don't have a PR, I was totally BS-ing everyone (I enjoyed it, for the record ). Second, I'm Ralph Crandem, Town Busdriver. WTF?!?

-Sully

That's a very good point, actually. He also said some things that earlier led me to believe that he was a cop. A scum would be motivated to do this, because then a doctor might protect him (from potential vigilantes/SKs) and other cops wouldn't be likely to investigate him. He wouldn't have to worry about scum killing him for coming across as a cop, since he IS scum.

I'm not going to go back several pages to find his post, but I thought he was a cop because he signed his post "Sheriff Sully" and kept talking in a old west sheriff type of way.

Way to go, gents. Commander, be more careful next time, your metagaming argument was weak.

-Sully

P.S. With regards to a previous post, I do know a piece of the story of John Smith (I had hoped it was a town thing and that other townies would catch on, but I guess not). It's too late now, I'm afraid. Good luck town, don't screw yourselves over again

[DoomYoshi]

Well hopefully the lynch can shed some light on the situation.

Are you saying I should drop the Maxwell Silverhammer?

Never mind, I missed the lynch! Such a small game I am not used to anymore

[Victor Sullivan]

Well hopefully the lynch can shed some light on the situation.

Are you saying I should drop the Maxwell Silverhammer?

And give him a lobotomy?

-Sully

[naxus]

The survivors had been exploring the building when they came across a pair of crazy looking men. One was on the bed making engine sounds, while the other was walking around bowlegged and shooting people with his hand(His prized six shooter if they asked). Soon enough everyone was having a real good time, but then the sheriff burst out laughing at the other people in the room.

Crazy people dont like being laughed at. Especially by someone who's screwing with thier minds.

Ralph Kramden(Town Busdriver) has been lynched.


Night 2 starts now. 72 hrs or when I get all actions