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Haggis_McMutton wrote:2. Anyone else find it kind of funny that naxus is NK'd right after insisting that we're all paranoid?
naxus wrote:Jonty being Jonty is a excuse? Scummaring you just let fly by from a very experienced player? Victor Being Victor?
Third party can be a sacrifice, but can also be useful. Lucy wasn't counterclaimed so I'm pretty sure your not mafia but Third party/town. Either way you can be helpful or be hung instead of someone.
Also shaggy dan has been flip flopping and all over the place.
IF you really want me to claim then I will but Id really rather not
Haggis_McMutton wrote:2. Anyone else find it kind of funny that naxus is NK'd right after insisting that we're all paranoid?
DONT KILL MEnaxus wrote:Im Anthony HOPE, Town Lover
Haggis_McMutton wrote:2. Anyone else find it kind of funny that naxus is NK'd right after insisting that we're all paranoid?
DoomYoshi wrote:unvote. SInce nobody defended you, you have the bad luck of having an inactive as a lover.
The next legitimate lead is edoc. Anyone want to take a stab at it? (pardon the pun)
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
naxus wrote:Im Anthony, Town Lover
naxus wrote:ShaggyDan Case
Jokevotes, Flavor specs while pursuing both safari and yoshi, then jumps on my ass because of the deadline which is no reason. Vote ShaggyDan
Naxus wrote:It was a joke vote wagon that ended up revealing some information. Slighty scummy but no real harm done. Had my reasons
ShaggyDan wrote:naxus wrote:ShaggyDan Case
Jokevotes, Flavor specs while pursuing both safari and yoshi, then jumps on my ass because of the deadline which is no reason. Vote ShaggyDan
I didn't pursue Yoshi at all, I've basically believed his claim the whole way (if not as pro-town, as 3rd party survivor which I think doesn't hurt us atm). As for safari he loosely made a claim which I originally thought to be anti-town, but after more flavour spec I believed it to be
How is deadline not a reason? I said I agree with Yoshi's case on you, and thought you were a good person to chase up with a deadline 3 days away. My main lead in Safari fell down and I hadn't had time to make a case, so I threw my vote behind a case that made sense and was made by a claim I believe to be alligned with town at best, and a neutral third party at worst.
Please explain how any of this makes me scummy? It seems you had more of a case on everyone else you accused instead of me, so why the vote on me?Naxus wrote:It was a joke vote wagon that ended up revealing some information. Slighty scummy but no real harm done. Had my reasons
I'd disagree, I would think a roleclaim so early on with very little information by an investigative role is pretty damaging overall.
Since then your claim and subsequent confirmation put you in the clear, but at the time it was the best case to pursue IMO.
Looks like the doctor is going to be busy tonight with a pair of lovers and a possible investigative role all outed.
Back to the action at hand; this close to a deadline is it best to make another case on someone with the few days left? Or do we the risk of rushing ahead without enough information. If so anyone have any leads? Personally nothing is popping out at me except maybe lynching an inactive due to having no other big options. I'm very much open to other cases. Thoughts, opinions?
Unvote Nax with such a strong claim and subsequent confirmation by commander I find it hard to not believe.
naxus wrote:jonty125 wrote:vote edoc for not knowing mejonty125 wrote:unvote vote Saxlad to celebrate Whac-a-Mod IV.jonty125 wrote:EBWOPjonty125 wrote:May not be around for about 48 hours. So I aren't scummaring or anything along them lines.jonty125 wrote:Mr. Squirrel wrote: This game will be fairly straightforward with pretty simple roles (there will be a few VTs)
Nobody has considered that someone or some people could be an 'extra' and just be a plain VTjonty125 wrote:Victor Sullivan wrote:Hm. As far as game set-up is concerned, I'm inclined to believe Sweeney Todd is not, in fact, town. Given DoomYoshi's claim and the role's apparent association with Todd, I wouldn't be surprised if he's mafia, trying to play it off like he's town. I don't think we should readily believe his alignment claim. My vote stays for now.
-Sully
I agree with this bit and think he would be mafia (11 to small for a 3rd party I think)
I do believe Yoshi's claim and I am don't have a clue on the film I wouldn't know if Lucy was associated with Todd or anything like that
Well it appears jokevoting is over unvotejonty125 wrote:naxus wrote:If you count my vote(which squirell missed, then dooms is at L-1)
He might as well claim, that or someone unvote to avoid accidental hammer
Why didn't you unvote naxus???
vote naxus
Two joke votes, Agrees with victor, and then votes hopping on the wagon. Unvotes me to avoid suspicions.
Has done nothing the whole game and hopes on a deadline rushed wagon with no reason.
naxus wrote:Once again you just agree but actually add something
pmchugh wrote:If I wasn't lazy, I would sig that
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
jonty125 wrote:naxus wrote:jonty125 wrote:vote edoc for not knowing mejonty125 wrote:unvote vote Saxlad to celebrate Whac-a-Mod IV.jonty125 wrote:EBWOPjonty125 wrote:May not be around for about 48 hours. So I aren't scummaring or anything along them lines.jonty125 wrote:Mr. Squirrel wrote: This game will be fairly straightforward with pretty simple roles (there will be a few VTs)
Nobody has considered that someone or some people could be an 'extra' and just be a plain VTjonty125 wrote:Victor Sullivan wrote:Hm. As far as game set-up is concerned, I'm inclined to believe Sweeney Todd is not, in fact, town. Given DoomYoshi's claim and the role's apparent association with Todd, I wouldn't be surprised if he's mafia, trying to play it off like he's town. I don't think we should readily believe his alignment claim. My vote stays for now.
-Sully
I agree with this bit and think he would be mafia (11 to small for a 3rd party I think)
I do believe Yoshi's claim and I am don't have a clue on the film I wouldn't know if Lucy was associated with Todd or anything like that
Well it appears jokevoting is over unvotejonty125 wrote:naxus wrote:If you count my vote(which squirell missed, then dooms is at L-1)
He might as well claim, that or someone unvote to avoid accidental hammer
Why didn't you unvote naxus???
vote naxus
Two joke votes, Agrees with victor, and then votes hopping on the wagon. Unvotes me to avoid suspicions.
Has done nothing the whole game and hopes on a deadline rushed wagon with no reason.
1. What's wrong with having two joke votes?
2. I did not unvote you to avoid suspicion I unvoted because you were at L-1 and didn't want a potential town power role lynched on D1.
3. I may have not done much as I have no expirence on the setting and are fairly new to CC Mafia but I have not been hindering the town.
4. I only had the 3rd vote (so there wasn't really much of a BW) and I did contribute to the case against younaxus wrote:Once again you just agree but actually add something
DoomYoshi wrote:safariguy5 wrote:Did you see the movie? Todd kills his wife, finds out Lovett lied to him, throws Lovett in the oven, cries over his wife's body, and then Toby kills Todd. Todd never recognized Lucy until after she was dead.
If he knew that it was his wife, he wouldn't have killed her. That makes him seem like a Vig, since if the vig knows someone is town, they won't kill them. An SK would feel no remorse. The ideal ending is one in which he realizes it who Lucy is, and doesn't kill her. They then go on to have a happy life. Since this benefits Todd and Lucy, and nobody else, if Lucy is Town then Todd could be town as well.
Saying "since I am Turpin (or Beadle, or whoever you are) Todd can't be town makes sense. Saying "Lucy is town, so Todd can't be" doesn't make sense. You are using faulty logic.
However, I am not entirely sure that I believe you are one of those characters now. It has occured to me that this has become a question of your word against mine. You say that you are town. I say that I am town. If you don't believe me, why should anyone believe you?
DoomYoshi wrote:Based on his original flavor speculation post and the hints about who he might be, I am not sure I want saf to claim.
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
edocsil wrote:I was nearly certain that is who you would claim. Sorry Saf but I did need to force you. Perhaps the unobservant wouldn't have noticed it, but you were rubbing that nose in our face. Hence why didn't press earlier. You however made a few sins since then and we needed to be certain. It was fairly obvious that you were likely town power, but you also were not going to be the target of the doc due to your actions during the day.
It is just as likely (perhaps more, the scum can group think at nights) that the doc wouldn't have picked up on it. I assume you think am scum because you voted for me, so riddle me this, do you think that if I were Todd or one of his compatriots I would have outed you or just killed you during the night while everyone else was busy protecting the Lovers and the watcher?
safariguy5 wrote:edocsil wrote:I was nearly certain that is who you would claim. Sorry Saf but I did need to force you. Perhaps the unobservant wouldn't have noticed it, but you were rubbing that nose in our face. Hence why didn't press earlier. You however made a few sins since then and we needed to be certain. It was fairly obvious that you were likely town power, but you also were not going to be the target of the doc due to your actions during the day.
It is just as likely (perhaps more, the scum can group think at nights) that the doc wouldn't have picked up on it. I assume you think am scum because you voted for me, so riddle me this, do you think that if I were Todd or one of his compatriots I would have outed you or just killed you during the night while everyone else was busy protecting the Lovers and the watcher?
That's why I specifically asked Lucy to watch me tonight so that if I die, she would know who to lynch tomorrow. So yes, at this point, assuming DoomYoshi is not lying about being the watcher, then I'm fairly confident I won't be killed tonight. And if I guess wrong and accidentally find an innocent person, just clear them tomorrow and I become a VT, making my life expendable for the greater good of town. So yeah, basically Todd's best chance of getting rid of me without possibly outing himself is a lynch today. Which is what you're pushing for.
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
ShaggyDan wrote:Wow, reminds me of firefly mafia. Except we have 4 out of 11 claiming instead of 3 out of 16. With 2 investigative roles, plus lovers outed it's all uphill from here.
I mostly believe all the claims thus-far, I assumed all these roles would be in the game and all flavour fits. I believe there is a very, very slim chance that Turpin is actually mafia but I will admit this is a very unlikely scenario if Todd gets a kill.
We have a deadline in 2 days. Personally I think it's a bad idead to waste a D1 lynch, but I'm wary because any random lynch we start up now will not have any chance to stop regardless of what they claim. We have the potential to lose a strong town role (though also it was said there are a few VT's here so we may not lose much). With the amount of info around on some players any kind of lynch will be some-what random.
I'm torn between RLing and NLing, if we RL I approve of lynching someone who's being quiet and not contributing much or possibly Edoc for making the cop claim (he may only be playing it off that he didn't realise before and wanted to be sure?), I don't think there's much of a case on him but it's one of the better leads we have at the moment. Though in this situation I could live with a NL to get verification off some of the claims. If we have to eventually RL then I guess one of the lovers would lead it as they've verified each other?
Thoughts guys?
Haggis_McMutton wrote:2. Anyone else find it kind of funny that naxus is NK'd right after insisting that we're all paranoid?
safariguy5 wrote:If we're going to go with a less active lynch, may I suggest Vio or Haggis who have been almost nonexistent from this game?
unvote vote Haggis
pmchugh wrote:If I wasn't lazy, I would sig that
Victor Sullivan wrote:I thought Todd would be anti-town. So, what of Lucy and her association with him? Doesn't it seem reasonable that DoomYoshi would be at least not town?
vote DoomYoshi
-Sully
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