California [Quenched]

by **Victor Sullivan** on Sun May 01, 2011 1:16 pm

Okay, I know you're going to hate me for this, but I noticed the border between Oakland and San Jose is different on the map and inset. In the inset, the border more or less goes across to the mountains, while on the map itself, the border curves south. On the bright side, Berkeley looks good!

-Sully

by **The Bison King** on Sun May 01, 2011 9:20 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:Okay, I know you're going to hate me for this, but I noticed the border between Oakland and San Jose is different on the map and inset. In the inset, the border more or less goes across to the mountains, while on the map itself, the border curves south. On the bright side, Berkeley looks good!

-Sully

Dude it's cool, I already hated you

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Anything else?

by **Victor Sullivan** on Sun May 01, 2011 9:25 pm

The Bison King wrote:
Victor Sullivan wrote:Okay, I know you're going to hate me for this, but I noticed the border between Oakland and San Jose is different on the map and inset. In the inset, the border more or less goes across to the mountains, while on the map itself, the border curves south. On the bright side, Berkeley looks good!

-Sully

Dude it's cool, I already hated you

Looks good to me!

-Sully

by **Industrial Helix** on Mon May 02, 2011 3:15 am

Once everything is adjusted and the numbers fit, based on your judgment, please post an image. You might need to PM me as well.

I apologize for my aloofness... I'm making a big move to Japan soon and I have loads of work going on at my current job to clean up before I go. Thanks for your help... for what its worth, Redbaron is also back full time, perhaps he can provide guidance if I fall short as well.

by **The Bison King** on Mon May 02, 2011 11:02 am

Industrial Helix wrote:Once everything is adjusted and the numbers fit, based on your judgment, please post an image. You might need to PM me as well.

I apologize for my aloofness... I'm making a big move to Japan soon and I have loads of work going on at my current job to clean up before I go. Thanks for your help... for what its worth, Redbaron is also back full time, perhaps he can provide guidance if I fall short as well.

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Sweetness, and congrats on the move. I shall send a PM as requested.

by **Industrial Helix** on Wed May 04, 2011 1:23 pm

Move Sonoma and San Mateo (Small and Big map) over to the left a tad so they're not going into other territories borders.

Otherwise I'm stickying this and conferring with Red and Isaiah.

by **Victor Sullivan** on Wed May 04, 2011 2:21 pm

Done and done.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/12/18 ... ornia6.xml

by **isaiah40** on Wed May 04, 2011 4:05 pm

Just my little nit pick again. My eyes are still being drawn over to the sun. Can you subdue it about another 30% or so please.

by **The Bison King** on Wed May 04, 2011 8:16 pm

isaiah40 wrote:Just my little nit pick again. My eyes are still being drawn over to the sun. Can you subdue it about another 30% or so please.

30%???? that's enormous!! It's already only at 40% opacity, that would only give it 10% visibility. Given the fact that I'll inevitably lose some color vibrancy I'd rather bump up the color of the map to draw away the eye. actually hold on I got an idea...

by **The Bison King** on Wed May 04, 2011 8:23 pm

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K, I lowered the Sunset opacity 5% and raised the color in the land 10%. Hopefully that should satisfy. I'll upload the new XML test in a moment as well.

by **The Bison King** on Wed May 04, 2011 8:37 pm

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Coordinate test.

by **InsomniaRed** on Wed May 04, 2011 10:57 pm

Yay Quenchhhhh

by **danfrank** on Wed May 04, 2011 11:03 pm

isaiah40 wrote:Just my little nit pick again. My eyes are still being drawn over to the sun. Can you subdue it about another 30% or so please.

i like the sun the way it is... It adds realism to sunny california..

by **natty dread** on Thu May 05, 2011 1:13 am

I'd still say, make the whole background darker. But maybe that's just me.

by **Industrial Helix** on Thu May 05, 2011 1:10 pm

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More powerful than a locomotive!
Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound!

Look! Up in the sky!
It's a bird!
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... Yes, it's Graphics Stamp ... strange visitor from another planet, who came to the Conquer Club foundry with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal cartographers!

Graphics Stamp... who can change the course of mighty rivers, bend borders in his bare hands, and who, disguised as the graphics workshop staff, is a mild-mannered map approver for the great Graphics Workshop. He fights a never-ending battle for perfection, nit picking, and the elitist way! And now, another exciting episode, in The Adventures of the Graphics Stamp!

by **Victor Sullivan** on Thu May 05, 2011 2:30 pm

Industrial Helix wrote:

by **Victor Sullivan** on Thu May 05, 2011 2:36 pm

Posted the stuff for the XML check.

-Sully

by **The Bison King** on Thu May 05, 2011 4:18 pm

Industrial Helix wrote:Faster than a speeding bullet!
More powerful than a locomotive!
Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound!

Look! Up in the sky!
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
It's GRAPHICS STAMP!"

... Yes, it's Graphics Stamp ... strange visitor from another planet, who came to the Conquer Club foundry with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal cartographers!

Graphics Stamp... who can change the course of mighty rivers, bend borders in his bare hands, and who, disguised as the graphics workshop staff, is a mild-mannered map approver for the great Graphics Workshop. He fights a never-ending battle for perfection, nit picking, and the elitist way! And now, another exciting episode, in The Adventures of the Graphics Stamp!

Victor Sullivan wrote:Posted the stuff for the XML check.

-Sully

Most Good!

by **RjBeals** on Fri May 06, 2011 4:35 pm

The problem I have with this map is the whole flow. There's so much happening on left side, too much, and the right side is bare, with a few pieces of clipart that don't fit the theme.

The map itself looks nice with the pastel watercolor and the 3D mountain ranges. But stepping back and looking at it, it looks thrown together and doesn't.... flow. Cohesiveness?

I realize at this point it's too late, but I hope you notice this and on your next map will have a better layout.

by **Victor Sullivan** on Fri May 06, 2011 9:38 pm

RjBeals wrote:The problem I have with this map is the whole flow. There's so much happening on left side, too much, and the right side is bare, with a few pieces of clipart that don't fit the theme.

The map itself looks nice with the pastel watercolor and the 3D mountain ranges. But stepping back and looking at it, it looks thrown together and doesn't.... flow. Cohesiveness?

I realize at this point it's too late, but I hope you notice this and on your next map will have a better layout.

This map was in the Graphics Workshop for ages, dear. You had plenty of time to speak up... You should check out the Graphics Workshop and comment there more. It's generally too late here.

-Sully

by **RjBeals** on Fri May 06, 2011 10:28 pm

yeah, I know that Vic. I do comment in the graphics forum. My comment is general for this map. It's not to fix a border, or check the colorblind values. It's the overall map itself.

But I'm still going to post my thoughts here. I really don't care what forum it's in.

(edit). and in general, major graphical comments don't really mean much. It's up to the map maker to produce what he can to whatever abilities he/she has. When I commented on how this map would look better if it wasn't a floating state, the suggestion was turned down as it wasn't the direction the artist wanted to take it. Totally understand, but I still wanted to make my comment.

by **Victor Sullivan** on Fri May 06, 2011 10:38 pm

I see. Fair enough.

-Sully

by **The Bison King** on Sat May 07, 2011 1:00 am

Well thanks for your honesty RJ. I see where you're coming from though I don't necessarily agree. If you want to take a look at my Africa map it's in Gameplay right now viewtopic.php?f=241&t=125279
If you have any big scoping graphical suggestions for that this would be the perfect time .

by **RjBeals** on Sat May 07, 2011 7:10 am

I will Bison. I don't have the time now, but within a few days I'll try to post my feedback. At a glance, I like the map.

by **army of nobunaga** on Sat May 07, 2011 9:58 pm

RjBeals wrote:yeah, I know that Vic. I do comment in the graphics forum. My comment is general for this map. It's not to fix a border, or check the colorblind values. It's the overall map itself.

But I'm still going to post my thoughts here. I really don't care what forum it's in.

(edit). and in general, major graphical comments don't really mean much. It's up to the map maker to produce what he can to whatever abilities he/she has. When I commented on how this map would look better if it wasn't a floating state, the suggestion was turned down as it wasn't the direction the artist wanted to take it. Totally understand, but I still wanted to make my comment.

I get your comments man.

On some I agree.

Bison has a lot of talent and Im not sure if this is his best work. But I do think this will be a good solid overall map. I also thing that it will provide some very technical tricky play.

I would not call it a bottleneck map, But I would call it a "hotspot" and "bottleneck'ish" map. But you know... I look forward to something different.

As far as graphics, I wanted to see one surfer, lol.. maybe a volleyball or a hiker.. but im a gomer and a goober.

Im ready to try this out in beta.