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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby sheepofdumb on Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:50 am

edocsil wrote:
sheepofdumb wrote:
Commander9 wrote:
sheepofdumb wrote:We won't have a cop if he gets recruited. It's in the towns best interest to keep you and Mandy alive and the rest of the mafia hidden while we hunt Davy Jones. We need every advantage against the cult right now. If the mafia waste their NK's then they won't be a threat.


What's the advantage of having scum concealed?


If a cult recruiter targets scum he usually dies.


But not here, as per night scene 1. I have also never seen that occur here, although that is in part due to a small number of cult games.


Oh snap, you're right. Nvm then. Looks like I've been derping up the wrong tree, again.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby Falkomagno on Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:01 am

edocsil wrote:
sheepofdumb wrote:
Commander9 wrote:
sheepofdumb wrote:We won't have a cop if he gets recruited. It's in the towns best interest to keep you and Mandy alive and the rest of the mafia hidden while we hunt Davy Jones. We need every advantage against the cult right now. If the mafia waste their NK's then they won't be a threat.


What's the advantage of having scum concealed?


If a cult recruiter targets scum he usually dies.


But not here, as per night scene 1. I have also never seen that occur here, although that is in part due to a small number of cult games.


I think that happened with the Mr. Squirrel death. It was an attempt of recruitment, that ends whit his death.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby strike wolf on Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:23 am

actually on that subject is it safe to assume you did not give anyone a killing sword night 1 falko?
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:30 am

Fucking cult.

sheep wrote:We won't have a cop if he gets recruited. It's in the towns best interest to keep you and Mandy alive and the rest of the mafia hidden while we hunt Davy Jones. We need every advantage against the cult right now. If the mafia waste their NK's then they won't be a threat.


I think I agree with this. Barring info that falko gave a killing sword N1 then I'm gonna Vote Victor.

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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby nagerous on Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:40 am

DoomYoshi wrote:
edocsil wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Mandy has already strongly suggested that he is self-protecting though. I am not sure you can rely on the mafia getting him. If we lynch mafia, won't you also be endgamed? At what point will you reveal the list? Immediately after the hammer is called? Can we rely on the fact that you will be online then edoc?


He could be bluffing in order to survive, I don't know. The thought is I UNVOTE and then others put him at L-2. Seeing as I have no life, I am on here quite a bit. Once I see that he is at L-2 I wait for someone else to come online, say Strike or Freezie. We both confirm we are ready to hang him, the other votes and then I vote and give the names of the remaining scum. You get rid of a non town Mandy, Me, and then can freely kill the scum at your leisure. Town is safe and has a single remaining enemy to find who you have a cop to identify.


I am starting to see that perhaps we can make a deal here. With Mandy gone and edoc endgamed, that also answers the question of whether or not edoc was recruited. unvote vote mandy. With the list of mafia out of the way, we can focus entirely on whether or not somebody is cult - which I think everyone agrees is the bigger threat now.



I'm going to vote DoomYoshi for blatent hypocrisy

Firstly, you accuse me of being cult and for not cult hunting when the majority of my posts have been esepecially at the end of day 3 and beginning of day 4 were stating that we MUST try and find cult today. Then, you've since done a turn around and want to lynch Mandy who is Captain Jack Sparrow!! We don't need edoc's evidence I'm sure we can find the last scum on our own time, instead we need to find the Cult Recruiter today and I think you've just made a massive slip up.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby Falkomagno on Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:39 am

strike wolf wrote:actually on that subject is it safe to assume you did not give anyone a killing sword night 1 falko?


Of course not...the fist night were for protection purposes...liz and myself
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby nagerous on Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:42 am

Falkomagno wrote:
strike wolf wrote:actually on that subject is it safe to assume you did not give anyone a killing sword night 1 falko?


Of course not...the fist night were for protection purposes...liz and myself


Your avatar looks like it is having a fist night.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:17 pm

@nag: there are enough people left in the game that the town can afford one more day in the cult battle. We already have a bunch of leads. Right now, as it stands, the town is split on wanting the list and not wanting the list. If we lynch mandy, we get the list and then tomorrow the town doesn't need to be split at all. If you were serious about finding the recruiter you would just tell us who recruited you.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 1

Postby strike wolf on Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:23 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:
VioIet wrote:My point was more or less, that it seemed like Victor just posted his typical "oh sorry, i've been away, will catch up soon."

I was hoping to get two posts from him by this point. To me it looks like just a simple post, that will be the last one we get for a week, then he will come back and make another simple post that has nothing to do with any of the topics at hand.

*Peeks out from behind a bush* Hey, guys! Sorry, was finishing up Dispatch business. Anywho, this may come a bit shocking, but I find that strike wolf seems to be the most subtly shady character of the bunch. He voted for me - fine, I get it, I was lacking in my posting. The recent comments I find most disturbing - saying that no one on my bandwagon was scummy while he himself was on the bandwagon, just seems like a way to say he's innocent with out outright saying it.
False. At the time I had my vote on no one and my only fos was on streaker. The basis for this post was inaccurate towards what was happening in the thread. This showed that he either skimmed over my posts or intentionally attempted to misinform.

In addition, this could be an effort to protect people of his faction (I say faction, as the description of the game indicated multiple win conditions). Also, targeting people who've defended me may be an indirect attempt at hindering me, and it could have been his actual intention to lynch me. Anywho, I feel like what I've explained doesn't entirely communicate my reasons for targeting him, but hopefully you understand. In conclusion, unvote vote strike wolf.
heavily speculative based on a false analysis of what I had said up to that point. I consider this a misuse of logic.

Victor Sullivan wrote:I feel responsible to post something, but the comments since my post have not swayed my decision.

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First post after he voted me. Never replies to where I called him out for false information.

Victor Sullivan wrote:
Commander9 wrote:
edocsil wrote:Yeah, this is why I make a point of trying to hang him early. So frustrating even when he is on your side.


This is probably by far the truest statement I've ever read about myself in Mafia... a good chance that it's the most hilarious too. Thanks doc - that brightened my day :lol:

:lol: I agree! :lol: :| Wait, we're talking about Commander, right?


This happened directly after the post above note neither one even attempts to talk about the current discussions of the time.

Disappears for a while...

Victor Sullivan wrote:Hello, hello! *the crowd cheers* Yes, yes, thank you, thank you! *cheering continues* Okay, settle down, people! *cheering still continues* SETTLE DOWN! *cheering halts abruptly*

What's this business with Falko? (Rhetorical question, just to clarify) From a fairness stance, I understand the reasoning behind the Falko bandwagon, but doesn't it have the same, if not, less justification as my bandwagon earlier? Are we really hunting scum, or are we just wanting a lynch? I will investigate further these fellows that have hopped onto this mode of transportation into Night 1 and get back to you all soon. My vote stays on strike wolf for now, his recent posts have not swayed me.
He seems to have at least a decent understanding of the game, tries to paint his bandwagon as silly and decides that the case against falko is worthless while his only vote stays on me with the false reasons indicated early not bothering to add anything just there.

Sorry for the intermittent posting, I plan to get back on top of things soon, but I've got various CC and RL things going on right now, so it's hard to keep track of what all I'm involved in.


Victor Sullivan wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
Falkomagno wrote:I think the mafia watcher doens't mean necessarily another faction. Mafia can use him to identify the doctor, and other relevant town roles. So, another explanation can be a night kill from a vigilante, in which case is brilliant, since I didn't see Mr. Squirrell as that scum. Nice work in that case.

And ofr sure, the fircoal long essay has a lot of valid points, especially edocil case,which I stated before as well, although in rather shallow way. But I strongly recommend see his post isolated, and his vote patterns.

vote edocil


Only problem with that theory falko is that the kill was very clearly made by Davey Jones and Davey Jones is very likely NOT town aligned.

:| Well, I'll agree that Davy Jones is likely not town-aligned, but did Jones ever kill anyone in the movies? Why would he be a SK, then? He just appeared to people when they were dying to see if they wanted to join his crew or whatever. Bah, maybe I'm over-thinking, but I feel we shouldn't jump to conclusions. I mean, why would we have gotten insight into Norrington's killer, but not Barbosa's? And isn't it plausible that town would have a vigilante? I mean, come on, their pirates.
Trying to depict the Norrington kill as vigilante. I think I've already made the case that even without the description of the killer fitting Davey Jones the kill makes no sense from a vig point of view as squirrel had not acted all that suspicious. Plus this would also mean that the vig decided he would kill squirrel fairly randomly night 1 and than not kill the almost guaranteed scum streaker night 2. Also misses that Barbossa's did have the hint of "british soldiers" coming for him which points to the EITC.

vote strike wolf - I still find him scummy from yesterday.
call me a broken record, call yourself one too. At least I will rehash and expand on my argument for why I think you should be lynched instead of repeatedly saying the same thing over and over again.

P.S. Sadface that Barbosa got killed. He was my favorite character in the movies. :(
At least we can agree that Barbossa was among the best characters.

Victor Sullivan wrote:
strike wolf wrote:2. Victor, like sax I pointed out how your initial argument was based on flawed logic and heavy speculation and you have yet to really provide any solid evidence for your case on me, surprisingly as voting me and restating that you will not unvote me have so far been your only true contributions to the game.

Strike wolf, strike wolf, streak golf... Who else is there? Your constant rambling seems like a way to effectively cover-up your scumminess, because "silence is scummy" so you have to be all herky-derky and write a 5 page essay on why Mandy seems scummy or how edocsil is using WIFOM logic (yes, I know it was mandy that accused him of that, but you get my vibe, I think...)


Finally gets around to actually expanding on your case. Rambling is a funny word as it actually goes along more with how he wrote that post than it does my behavior. the second issue he stated as detail was about mandy not me and the first applies better to others within the game. To note when I asked about it he never got around to explaining how it fit in with me.

The case on Mandy seems weak - it could have easily been a lapse in judgement - scum wouldn't be so foolish as to associate themselves with their scummates, that gets more than one of them killed in the end if one is ousted.
Pattern in first two days of discrediting cases.

Who else is there? Commander? But don't those reasons stem from his supposedly scummy behavior in defending me? Theoretically the same argument could be used here.
repeat of above.

Victor Sullivan wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Victor Sullivan wrote:
Commander9 wrote:Can you explain then?

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Welcome to my world. :lol:

**High fives mandy**


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nagerous wrote:Wait a second Victor, why is there blood on your hand? :shock: FOS

Oh, nagerous, you were too drunk to remember, weren't you? That was some fine party. *winks at mandy* Commander was gettin' it on with Fircoal. Didn't realize he was into necrophilia...
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nagerous wrote:Wait a second Victor, why is there blood on your hand? :shock: FOS

Oh, nagerous, you were too drunk to remember, weren't you? That was some fine party. *winks at mandy* Commander was gettin' it on with Fircoal. Didn't realize he was into necrophilia...


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strike wolf wrote:Hmm...not sure I really buy your excuse for voting me.

I wouldn't expect you to agree with lynching yourself :lol: :roll:


Victor Sullivan wrote:
Commander9 wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:Thank God! You got me worried there for a second. :shock:
*
returns high five to Vic*


So in the end, all discussions basically end and you still won't respond. Well, gg guys.

It's been a good Day 2. :)


Do you need more fluff for your pillow? I can understand a bit of joking around here and there (I know I engage in it from time to time) but 4 straight fluff posts is excessive.

Victor Sullivan wrote:Wait, where did Davy Jones come from on your 18th point, pancakemix? I'm confused... Anyway, I have no reason to believe edocsil is lying, so I'll run with the Haggis lynch, despite pancakemix's rundown. There is a vig, as evidenced by Norrington's getting NK'd last night, so I don't think things will end up in the predicament you described.


Victor Sullivan wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Victor Sullivan wrote:Wait, where did Davy Jones come from on your 18th point, pancakemix? I'm confused... Anyway, I have no reason to believe edocsil is lying, so I'll run with the Haggis lynch, despite pancakemix's rundown. There is a vig, as evidenced by Norrington's getting NK'd last night, so I don't think things will end up in the predicament you described.


That is where I'm getting Davy Jones from. The "do you fear death?" tidbit is his trademark. Hence, he's here and he's killing. Some of the early D2 discussion concerned this.

Meh, I think it's a town vig still, despite the tidbit.

Oh, and I forgot: unvote, vote Haggis


Insisting that the killer is a vig. This is something I would expect the killer to say if he was trying to cover up his kill especially under these circumstances where it is exceedingly unlikely that it was a vig given the surrounding evidence.

Victor Sullivan wrote:Streaker's next as per edoc's negotiation? Alright: vote Streaker


just part of the lynch not much here other than being the 5th vote.

Victor Sullivan wrote:I told you he was (probably) a cult leader! That mean's town definitely has a vig, and by the results of Night 2, I suspect our vig can only target someone once every two nights? Either that, he's a JOAT and used up his one vig action, or he and the mafia just targeted the same person. Oh, well I guess there's also the possibility of a doc... Bah, I'm over-thinking, aren't I?
More insistence that it was a vig. Does not consider why there would be a hint to a recruitment in this scene and not the one before. Let's not forget that both the death of Norrington in Night 1 and the recruitment night 2 fits the description of Davy Jones. Did you forget that the Joat is dead? Also preemptive strike before you claim that the night 3 kill proves your theory that town does not have a vig let's not forget that falko took credit for killing sax and denied allowing anyone a sword night one.


Victor Sullivan wrote:Sigh... Maybe we should lynch EITC today, then, and hope for a Davy NK or something... I just feel like blindly searching for Jones when we have a list of definite threats seems a little silly. Idk, guys, what do you think? I suppose it depends on how much of a threat we think Jones is in comparison to the remaining EITC member(s).
Shifting attention away from a jones hunt.

Victor Sullivan wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Victor Sullivan wrote:Sigh... Maybe we should lynch EITC today, then, and hope for a Davy NK or something... I just feel like blindly searching for Jones when we have a list of definite threats seems a little silly. Idk, guys, what do you think? I suppose it depends on how much of a threat we think Jones is in comparison to the remaining EITC member(s).


Considering that Jones' group is on pace to endgame us if we keep following edoc's lead (on a more general note, hate to say I told you so but...), I say we take our chances and hunt for the squid.

Ah, okay. That makes sense. Ol' Sully must be a little off his rocker. I get it now.

pancakemix wrote:
nagerous wrote:Vote Mandy


Again, I''m all for going after Jones and this is as good a lead as any, but on what grounds do you say he's the cult leader as opposed to just a normal cultie?

Even if he is just a regular cultie, we can look back at who he may have associated himself with, though you do make a good point, Mandy's actions don't quite seem up to leader status, but it's as good a lead as any.
Does not believe mandy is the recruiter but the recruiter should be the focus of this lynch not just any cult.

Victor Sullivan wrote:Hm, I guess we're at a tough spot. Mandy's claim was surprisingly believable. The cult is more of a threat at the moment, given its growing recruit count, but with Mandy's Jack Sparrow claim, we're kind of stuck protecting him tonight instead of edoc, thus allowing him to be killed and give no more names... I guess it depends on what we feel is more important. IMO, we should go for the EITC lynch, because if we attempt to lynch Jones and don't, we lose a town (possibly a cult recruit) and the last of the EITC names, though if edocsil is willing to list the remaining names now, it may be win win for us all and we can go on hunting Jones.

-Sully

Detouring from the jones hunt.

Victor Sullivan wrote:
strike wolf wrote:Just a separate win condition. Congrats Vio. Anyways mandy, you tell me not to metagame based on scenes but isn't that exactly what you did to figure out that Nark was Angel in the buffy mafia? However that being said I realize that your behavior is mostly served as an effort to keep yourself from being lynched and at this point I would rather hunt for the Cult Recruiter. revote victor sullivan for misinformation, lurking, flawed logic, skimming and overall scummy play. fos doomyoshi for flawed logic

Misinformation? Flawed logic?? Scummy play??? Lurking??-oh, wait, well maybe a little Days 1 and 2, but I don't understand where this is all coming from...
This made me laugh.
Victor Sullivan wrote:My God, strike wolf, I get it, you think I'm the Cult Recruiter (you said it like a dozen times!) but here me out: Davy Jones can't possibly have a NK.
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During the night and reeling from the loss of Mercer, Cutler Beckett ordered a broadside into the Black Pearl. One of his gunners took aim at a night lantern on deck and fired a 12 pound ball at the ship with black sails.

On deck, the night watchmen was impaled by the various splinters and wood fragments that the cannonball made as it tore through the railing. He lay on the deck dying in pools of his own blood.

Almost as if it were chance, a barnacled and peglegged man strode towards him.

"Life is cruel. Why should the afterlife be any different? One Hundred Years before the mast. Will ye serve?"

"I will."

It is now Day 3, with 17 alive, it take 9 to lynch.

The cannonball that Cutler ordered to be fired killed him, Jones didn't kill him. Jones just recruited EITC's target, it seems.


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A bald man walked down the docks. Although the cursed Cutler Beckett had been hung, he was sure the King's soldiers were still on the lookout for pirates. As luck would have it, 2 of them stopped him.

"Oy, you there, you look familiar to me" cried one of the soldiers.

"I'm sorry" the bald man said, "but I cannot help you."

"Oh yes you can" the other one shouted. "By dying!"

Before anything else could be done, the two soldiers emptied their pistols right into the face of the man and left him bleeding on the docks.

As his vision dimmed, a strange looking woman with dirty black teeth came into view. "I hope God brushes his teeth better" he thought as everything went black.

He woke up still lying on the docks, apparently no worse for the wear.

Here, we can see edocsil was targeted for an NK by EITC, but he was protected.


safariguy5 wrote:Meanwhile, a grizzled old man peered through his telescope. He was looking for someone to get rid of all the obstacles the pirates were dealing with. Surely, there must be a way of stopping the East India Trading Company and the forces of the sea.

A sound behind him made him whirl around in surprise.

A clawed hand packed an ivory pipe and stuck it to the wet lips of an enormous man.

"Tell me, do you fear death?"

"I do."

Jones didn't kill him, he just recruited him.


safariguy5 wrote:In another part of Tortuga, a dashing looking young man in a ponytail walked into one of the taverns. He spied his target sitting at a table.

"You must be the one who's been causing all the trouble!" he cried, drawing a shiny sword.

"Sorry, you have the wrong man" replied the other, drawing a much less shiny sword.

Although the sword fight seemed evenly matched, the young man's sword proved to be too much for the other, and the young man ran his target through before escaping into the night.

TheSaxlad, Pintel, Town Mason has been killed!

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It is now Day 4! With 15 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

This kill would have to be at the hands of the vig, which we can assume was the one that killed Norrington in the scene after Night 1.


obviously you skimmed over where falko took credit for the kill and for the record since than he denied taking credit for the night 1 kill.

Falkomagno wrote:I can confirm that I killed the sax yesterday. His speedlynch and his overall lack of contribution sound me like scum. I can confirm as well that i have to protect a specific character, by killing Davvy Jones


Falkomagno wrote:
strike wolf wrote:actually on that subject is it safe to assume you did not give anyone a killing sword night 1 falko?


Of course not...the fist night were for protection purposes...liz and myself


So yes I think I can make you out to be Jones based on this argument.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby nagerous on Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:38 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:@nag: there are enough people left in the game that the town can afford one more day in the cult battle. We already have a bunch of leads. Right now, as it stands, the town is split on wanting the list and not wanting the list. If we lynch mandy, we get the list and then tomorrow the town doesn't need to be split at all. If you were serious about finding the recruiter you would just tell us who recruited you.


No.. because once we lynch mandy and we have the list what do you think will happen?? We will end up lynching someone off the list and cult have another day to recruit what could potentially be there 6th member giving them a near majority. This night phase will be night 4, with the mandy lynch the cult will then have 5 members and that will make them a very powerful united force. You've shown your true colours and are definitely cult, whether the recruiter or not I cannot be certain.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby edocsil on Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:49 pm

nagerous wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:@nag: there are enough people left in the game that the town can afford one more day in the cult battle. We already have a bunch of leads. Right now, as it stands, the town is split on wanting the list and not wanting the list. If we lynch mandy, we get the list and then tomorrow the town doesn't need to be split at all. If you were serious about finding the recruiter you would just tell us who recruited you.


No.. because once we lynch mandy and we have the list what do you think will happen?? We will end up lynching someone off the list and cult have another day to recruit what could potentially be there 6th member giving them a near majority. This night phase will be night 4, with the mandy lynch the cult will then have 5 members and that will make them a very powerful united force. You've shown your true colours and are definitely cult, whether the recruiter or not I cannot be certain.


You NK the mafia, not lynch them....... Falko takes out the first one on the list and if there is another killer they take the second. With any luck both are dead in the morning. Why do you want the scum alive so bad? There are too many scum (5) to have one I don't know about, so what is making you tick?
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 3, No Deaths!

Postby strike wolf on Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:52 pm

So with that big posty mentioned my list for cult as it stands right now:

1. Victor-possible recruiter
2. Doomyoshi-likely cult recruit
3. ?- there are a few people I think could fit in this place but none as definitively as the other two up there.

On a side note I found this post interesting as I was going through everything victor related

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:lol well I hate for this day to go by quick, but oh well vote Streaker to continue the case I made against him yesterday and in light of Edoc's stuff.

-Tails


So you acknowledge that the lynch is happening a bit quickly but you still vote on it?
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby pancakemix on Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:59 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:@nag: there are enough people left in the game that the town can afford one more day in the cult battle. We already have a bunch of leads. Right now, as it stands, the town is split on wanting the list and not wanting the list. If we lynch mandy, we get the list and then tomorrow the town doesn't need to be split at all. If you were serious about finding the recruiter you would just tell us who recruited you.


Disagree. If we assume 1 death and 1 recruit, the numbers are 11 players left comprised of (at least) 4 cult, 2 mafia, and (at most) 5 town. That would make us incredibly screwed.

Make no mistake, the list is beneficial. We can't afford to take it like edoc wants us to, as I just pointed out.

Wha?

I agree with nag: your being cult is highly likely.

@strike: Good post. Seems we have two options, but I think Victor is more likely to be the recruiter. I'll unvote and hold off for now. I've got a half baked idea that needs some cooking.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby nagerous on Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:12 pm

Any chance of a VC?

It looks like Victor is going to be the best lynch for today and if he comes out as cult or the recruiter then I suggest our vig should take a shot at Doom and get another cultist out the way. As for the mafia situation, I think we may have to pressurise edocsil into giving us more names tomorrow, but the doctor should protect mandy for if mandy dies, edoc is just endgamed and that is a lose-lose situation for the town.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:59 pm

I am not a cult recruit. That makes no sense. I have basically been a non-entity in this game until today. Why would the cult recruit me compared to obviously beneficial roles like falko? Nagerous, however, is a cult recruit. It is WIFOM to say that we would for sure lynch someone on the list tomorrow. With the list out of the way, we wouldn't have to lynch someone on it.

Right now we have 14 players. 2 mafia, 4 cult, 8 town. We lynch mandy; edoc is endgamed, 2 mafia, 4 cult (I don't think edoc is cult), 6 town. Tonight, a mafia is NKed by Falko and the mafia aim for a cult member. There are then a few possibilities: 1 mafia, 5 cult, 5 town (if the mafia kill fails); 1 mafia, 3 cult, 6 town (if the mafia get the recruiter) or 1 mafia, 4 cult, 5 town (if both the recruiter and the mafia succeed). 1 of these situations results in a high % win chance for the cult. None of these scenarios result in high % win chance for the mafia. Perhaps Victor is a better shot for the vig, as I, like strike, believe him a good candidate for recruiter.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby nagerous on Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:05 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:I am not a cult recruit. That makes no sense. I have basically been a non-entity in this game until today. Why would the cult recruit me compared to obviously beneficial roles like falko? Nagerous, however, is a cult recruit. It is WIFOM to say that we would for sure lynch someone on the list tomorrow. With the list out of the way, we wouldn't have to lynch someone on it.



Why are you asserting opinions like they are true? Please provide me evidence of my cultishness, though it is clear you are trying to manipulate the town vote.

Also here is a major WIFOM alert, a defence that you're not a cult member because you've been submarining, cult recruiters RECRUIT submariners, hence people like you and / would be perfect targets for them rather than people who are active. Sure, someone like Falko or even Mandy could be cult too but they are not the cult recruiter which is most likely you or Victor. Personally, I'd like to see either of you lynched today and the other vig killed.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby Commander9 on Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:06 pm

I don't have a lot of time, but just quickly pointing out - don't protect Mandy as he said it's not needed.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby nagerous on Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:07 pm

Commander9 wrote:I don't have a lot of time, but just quickly pointing out - don't protect Mandy as he said it's not needed.


Yes it is, if he dies, edocsil gets endgamed, we never find out the last scum. ](*,)
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby Commander9 on Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:18 pm

nagerous wrote:Yes it is, if he dies, edocsil gets endgamed, we never find out the last scum. ](*,)


And if edoc dies we don't get the last scum anyways and we're stuck with some sort of 3rd party. ](*,)
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby mandalorian2298 on Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:51 pm

nagerous wrote:
Commander9 wrote:I don't have a lot of time, but just quickly pointing out - don't protect Mandy as he said it's not needed.


Yes it is, if he dies, edocsil gets endgamed, we never find out the last scum. ](*,)


Have a little faith, baby. ;) Also, at this point, I'm not getting NKed just to spite Edoc and all the people out there who think that trusting Scum to do a right thing isn't dumb (side note, were I in Edoc's shoes, I most definitely would give you a fake list after lynching of Jack Sparrow has been done, out of loyality towards my Scum-buddies).

But seriously, keeping Edoc around for free is dumb. Let's have another name in exchange for the Doc protecting him.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby mandalorian2298 on Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:54 pm

Or, if he doesn't give it, then the Doc may as well protect me, just to spite him. But, we need to decide what we'll before the end of the Day so that I can decide what flavor of mayhem I'm going to cause.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby edocsil on Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:55 pm

nagerous wrote:Any chance of a VC?

It looks like Victor is going to be the best lynch for today and if he comes out as cult or the recruiter then I suggest our vig should take a shot at Doom and get another cultist out the way. As for the mafia situation, I think we may have to pressurise edocsil into giving us more names tomorrow, but the doctor should protect mandy for if mandy dies, edoc is just endgamed and that is a lose-lose situation for the town.


Every time I play with you I can never tell what is the act and what is the real thoughts. Surely you realize by now that I will not give the names because you attempt to hang me. If it comes to that I will keep the names out of spite, because it is highly unlikely that I would win anyways. Here you are, never responding to any of my arguments, attempting to manipulate the day and as well as the docs protects in what will likely be a futile gesture. Making the doc protect Mandy will leave me unguarded to be killed by the mafia, leaving the town nearly outnumbered after the night. There are several arguments I have made questioning you actions, answer them.


Edit before post, Mandy it won't happen as the is little to nothing to guarantee the doc will protect me tonight. I mean to win today, otherwise it will not happen at all.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby edocsil on Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:56 pm

So mayhem it will be. Perhaps it will truly show your dubious allegiance.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby strike wolf on Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:09 pm

Well edoc we have tia dalma who's apparently a doctor and we have falko who can give out swords to protect. SO I think between the two of them we can protect you and mandy and any watchers/busdrivers should keep falko safe. the one I would be worried about surviving the night is freezie...however I believe all the captains in the mafia have been killed/lynched haven't they? (I think there's still that guy who tended to stand next to Beckett is still alive but did he captain a ship?) so he shouldn't be a threat to the mafia faction.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby nagerous on Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:29 pm

edocsil wrote:
nagerous wrote:Any chance of a VC?

It looks like Victor is going to be the best lynch for today and if he comes out as cult or the recruiter then I suggest our vig should take a shot at Doom and get another cultist out the way. As for the mafia situation, I think we may have to pressurise edocsil into giving us more names tomorrow, but the doctor should protect mandy for if mandy dies, edoc is just endgamed and that is a lose-lose situation for the town.


Every time I play with you I can never tell what is the act and what is the real thoughts.


Isn't that how mafia is meant to be played?
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