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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby freezie on Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:19 pm

pancakemix wrote:Well, how many members of the Pirate Council do we think are likely. By nature of getting elected Pirate Queen, Elizabeth is by default a good candidate to be a Captain.



Wait, my role pm says any captains of a ship AT ANY POINTS in the movie..

And I am 99% I haven't found Elizabeth anyway XD

But was she the captain of a ship ( Though you could be right as I vaguelly remember her beeing a ''captain'' in the third movie....
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby Commander9 on Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:53 pm

got tonkaed wrote:This is why yesterday's speed lynch was stupid. There was no reason to miss out on an entire day of discussion regarding who the recruiter might be or to have failed to get a name out of edoc.

Id still argue that edoc should have to put a name forward as otherwise, he is the safest lynch. Having said that, it is probably equally as important to find where the recruiter might come from.


I agree with this - that lynch got us nowhere.

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I am happy to give another name if we are going to hang him, but you can understand why I have no real desire to give you a name for a NK, it defeats the purpose of my gamble. If you would like to scum hunt for Jones I would be happy to help, and if the day drags out I would be willing to give you a name then for a lynch. Your guy's call.


I would prefer to actually go against our lovely cult leader, but if I'm being honest, I only have a couple of suspicions who it could be and they really don't have any factual basis.

nagerous wrote:Before we got distracted with all this lynching mafia business, my suspicions would still be on mandy.

Got tonkaed raised a good point at the end of the day phase, that we shouldn't speed lynch and mandy's response was just to mindlessly bandwagon. The next post was by Saxlad dropping the hammer. Now I expect that from Sax as he is more inexperienced at mafia but for mandy just to show in and vote sends me a message that he wanted to end the day quickly, thus further strengthening an already expanding cult.

Now it seems to me that we should definitely aim at lynching Davey Jones today and whilst I would love a name from edocsil, if that is not going to be our priority in the lynch it seems he won't give us one.. I therefore formally accuse mandy of being the cult leader.

Vote Mandy


And please do not forget that he was one of the quick hammerers a bit before as well along with his behaviour. I will gladly 2nd this and yet again vote for Mandy.

freezie wrote:Anyway, back on my claim. I got 1 positive result out of all, and it's a 50% chance ( unless I forgot one ) that I find Jack ( Edoc's target, good for us..and slightly for town ) Or Davy Jones, our big winner.

I won't tell who I found captainish right now. I will wait in case I forgot 6-7 captains and be completly off the track. But..yea. 50-50 on Davy jones..Or helping edoc :S


There was also that Asian Pirate ship with the captain, but I'm not completely sure if that's significant enough. There were some minor captains, but I don't think they're in the game. Personally, I think these are great news!

freezie wrote:Wait, my role pm says any captains of a ship AT ANY POINTS in the movie..

And I am 99% I haven't found Elizabeth anyway XD

But was she the captain of a ship ( Though you could be right as I vaguelly remember her beeing a ''captain'' in the third movie....


To be fair, if you would re-read, I'm fairly sure you could easily notice who is Elizabeth.
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby edocsil on Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:55 pm

Well, you should claim who you found then and assuming it isn't Liz(I am with Com on this one), we should hang them. If it is Davey, it's good for all of us, it ends the cults threat and then I know the identity of the reaming scum, which I will give when you need them. If it is Jack, we hang him and after his death I give you all the remaining scum. What say you?


BTW I am the Asian captain
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby Commander9 on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:00 pm

edocsil wrote:Well, you should claim who you found then and assuming it isn't Liz(I am with Com on this one), we should hang them. If it is Davey, it's good for all of us, it ends the cults threat and then I know the identity of the reaming scum, which I will give when you need them. If it is Jack, we hang him and after his death I give you all the remaining scum. What say you?


BTW I am the Asian captain


Since you already claimed, would you mind to fully revealing your name and roll? As far as the naming goes, I'm totally fine with it as long as it's not Elizabeth. As for now, I'll keep my vote on the most suspicious person I see - Mandy.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby strike wolf on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:03 pm

Edoc gave his full name day 2.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby freezie on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:04 pm

Commander9 wrote:To be fair, if you would re-read, I'm fairly sure you could easily notice who is Elizabeth.



Alright, I'll re-phrase

I am 150% sure it's not Liz that I found.

I followed the game..I know it's not her.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby pancakemix on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:07 pm

edocsil wrote:Well, you should claim who you found then and assuming it isn't Liz(I am with Com on this one), we should hang them. If it is Davey, it's good for all of us, it ends the cults threat and then I know the identity of the reaming scum, which I will give when you need them. If it is Jack, we hang him and after his death I give you all the remaining scum. What say you?


BTW I am the Asian captain


If it's Jack, he won't tell us he's Jack. And we can't be sure of your status after Jack's death (unless I missed something). Freezie, I'm assuming you just get a yea or nay on the character?
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby freezie on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:08 pm

pancakemix wrote:
edocsil wrote:Well, you should claim who you found then and assuming it isn't Liz(I am with Com on this one), we should hang them. If it is Davey, it's good for all of us, it ends the cults threat and then I know the identity of the reaming scum, which I will give when you need them. If it is Jack, we hang him and after his death I give you all the remaining scum. What say you?


BTW I am the Asian captain


If it's Jack, he won't tell us he's Jack. And we can't be sure of your status after Jack's death (unless I missed something). Freezie, I'm assuming you just get a yea or nay on the character?



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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby Commander9 on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:11 pm

strike wolf wrote:Edoc gave his full name day 2.


Apologies - forgot that.

freezie wrote:Alright, I'll re-phrase

I am 150% sure it's not Liz that I found.

I followed the game..I know it's not her.


It's yay from me then.
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby edocsil on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:18 pm

pancakemix wrote:
edocsil wrote:Well, you should claim who you found then and assuming it isn't Liz(I am with Com on this one), we should hang them. If it is Davey, it's good for all of us, it ends the cults threat and then I know the identity of the reaming scum, which I will give when you need them. If it is Jack, we hang him and after his death I give you all the remaining scum. What say you?


BTW I am the Asian captain


If it's Jack, he won't tell us he's Jack. And we can't be sure of your status after Jack's death (unless I missed something). Freezie, I'm assuming you just get a yea or nay on the character?


But he would have to explain why he had a ship, and all the current candidates would lie. so the point is kinda moot.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby strike wolf on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:34 pm

Ok I took some time to consider the evidence and the night 2 lynch and everything going on. First I agree at this point cult is by far the biggest threat. Second I think at this point you should say who it was you caught freezie. Also we should be wary about lynching jack as that will be the end of edoc's help with finding mafia and he's likely to have a pretty good role. I had more to say but honestly I'm peeking at this thread over a project and can't remember what it was.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby edocsil on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:37 pm

strike wolf wrote:Ok I took some time to consider the evidence and the night 2 lynch and everything going on. First I agree at this point cult is by far the biggest threat. Second I think at this point you should say who it was you caught freezie. Also we should be wary about lynching jack as that will be the end of edoc's help with finding mafia and he's likely to have a pretty good role. I had more to say but honestly I'm peeking at this thread over a project and can't remember what it was.


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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby strike wolf on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:42 pm

edocsil wrote:
strike wolf wrote:Ok I took some time to consider the evidence and the night 2 lynch and everything going on. First I agree at this point cult is by far the biggest threat. Second I think at this point you should say who it was you caught freezie. Also we should be wary about lynching jack as that will be the end of edoc's help with finding mafia and he's likely to have a pretty good role. I had more to say but honestly I'm peeking at this thread over a project and can't remember what it was.


I would help some who helps me, that's how I do things.


And you have confirmed with safari that you would not be end gamed?
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby freezie on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:47 pm

Well, whatever, at this point, I will spill the beans.

Strike wolf is NOT a captain.
Commander is NOT a captain.

And you will all be happy to know MANDY is a captain.

But he has a few votes already, and lynching him just for that would be ridiculus....Let's hear him now.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby strike wolf on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:56 pm

freezie wrote:Well, whatever, at this point, I will spill the beans.

Strike wolf is NOT a captain.
Commander is NOT a captain.

And you will all be happy to know MANDY is a captain.

But he has a few votes already, and lynching him just for that would be ridiculus....Let's hear him now.

Well in truth we have more on him than that. Rushing two lynches day 1 and later day 3. Overall suspicious behavior regarding the falco and fircoal cases day 1. Very defensive and out of character behavior. Etc.

I can confirm I am not a captain.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby Commander9 on Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:00 pm

freezie wrote:Well, whatever, at this point, I will spill the beans.

Strike wolf is NOT a captain.
Commander is NOT a captain.

And you will all be happy to know MANDY is a captain.

But he has a few votes already, and lynching him just for that would be ridiculus....Let's hear him now.


And I can also confirm I'm no captain.
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby freezie on Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:49 pm

strike wolf wrote:
freezie wrote:Well, whatever, at this point, I will spill the beans.

Strike wolf is NOT a captain.
Commander is NOT a captain.

And you will all be happy to know MANDY is a captain.

But he has a few votes already, and lynching him just for that would be ridiculus....Let's hear him now.

Well in truth we have more on him than that. Rushing two lynches day 1 and later day 3. Overall suspicious behavior regarding the falco and fircoal cases day 1. Very defensive and out of character behavior. Etc.

I can confirm I am not a captain.



No no, I know you have more on him than that. I can just confirm he is a captain, and that I will wait till he explains before voting him.

That's all I wanted to say.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby edocsil on Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:41 pm

strike wolf wrote:
edocsil wrote:
strike wolf wrote:Ok I took some time to consider the evidence and the night 2 lynch and everything going on. First I agree at this point cult is by far the biggest threat. Second I think at this point you should say who it was you caught freezie. Also we should be wary about lynching jack as that will be the end of edoc's help with finding mafia and he's likely to have a pretty good role. I had more to say but honestly I'm peeking at this thread over a project and can't remember what it was.


I would help some who helps me, that's how I do things.


And you have confirmed with safari that you would not be end gamed?


Yes. Had to read between the lines a bit, but I will not be killed if I win. More then that I would need to ask to say.

Needless to say, I totally support a mandy lynch, but it would be good to hear from him before hand if nothing else. I will wait to vote till he speaks.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby mandalorian2298 on Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:09 am

nagerous wrote:Before we got distracted with all this lynching mafia business, my suspicions would still be on mandy.

Got tonkaed raised a good point at the end of the day phase, that we shouldn't speed lynch and mandy's response was just to mindlessly bandwagon. The next post was by Saxlad dropping the hammer. Now I expect that from Sax as he is more inexperienced at mafia but for mandy just to show in and vote sends me a message that he wanted to end the day quickly, thus further strengthening an already expanding cult.

Now it seems to me that we should definitely aim at lynching Davey Jones today and whilst I would love a name from edocsil, if that is not going to be our priority in the lynch it seems he won't give us one.. I therefore formally accuse mandy of being the cult leader.

Vote Mandy


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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby mandalorian2298 on Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:47 am

Anyway, yesterday I opted fro quick lynch because I thought that a discussion is a waste of time when we all know whom it is that is going to be lynched. If you guys want, I am ready to claim, but a mass claim at this point looks like we are setting a 'choose your power role' buffet for Davy Jones. Also, FOS everyone who suddenly stopped the edoc-aided scum hunt in favor of eliminating me. You guys look totally in sync today. Like a cult.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby nagerous on Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:01 am

And...what to the accusations freezie just made or did you just skim those?
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby pancakemix on Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:19 am

Vote Mandy for that total nonsense argument and lack of any real response to freezie's claim.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby strike wolf on Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:46 am

pancakemix wrote:Vote Mandy for that total nonsense argument and lack of any real response to freezie's claim.

Qft. vote mandy
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby mandalorian2298 on Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:00 am

Fine. I am Captain Jack Sparrow. Before I say anything else, I would like to point out that any of you who believe that Edoc will NOT be endgamed after he WINS if profoundly stupid. I'm not saying that saying that he will not be endgamed is stupid (it's in fact very smart if you are a part of his Mafia) I am just saying that believing it is. Victory, by definition, comes at the end of a game for a player.

This being said, feel free to decide now do you: a) want to lynch me and deny Edoc, a Mafia Traitor his last reason to help out the town (while you at it, you might as well to listen to the Fox and the Cat, plant me in the forest in hope that I will grow into a tree of gold coins :roll: ); do you b) want another name from Edoc, lynch that person and have Mafia waste their NK on me. Edoc should not have problem with the latter scenario, unless he explicitly wants to win with his Mafia or do you c) want to find Davey Jones who I certainly am not.
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Re: POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 4 Another Death

Postby strike wolf on Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:15 am

unvote for now. I'll have more to say later depending on whether someone counter-claims or not.
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