[Official] Team CC Mafia [Finished]

[Rodion]

That's L-2 or L-3 for those counting.

I'm going to complement your statement before you get BWed.

The "L-2 or L-3" does not mean Yoshi was skimming. I counted it the same way, as the mod says that it takes 10 to lynch (L-2), while logic dictates that with 20 players it should take 11 (L-3).

[DoomYoshi]

That's L-2 or L-3 for those counting.

I'm going to complement your statement before you get BWed.

The "L-2 or L-3" does not mean Yoshi was skimming. I counted it the same way, as the mod says that it takes 10 to lynch (L-2), while logic dictates that with 20 players it should take 11 (L-3).

That is what I meant. Thank you for clarifying for everyone else

[Victor Sullivan]

10 makes more sense. The vote of the guy getting voted for shouldn't count in the majority tally, since he's not going to vote for himself.

[Rodion]

10 makes more sense. The vote of the guy getting voted for shouldn't count in the majority tally, since he's not going to vote for himself.

The existence of 20 players means there can be 2 different people receiving 10 votes each. 10 is, thus, not enough to lynch, as there is no majority.

Being that you claim to be a rl math teacher, I'll consider you either knew or should know that. Perhaps you want Hank to get lynched with more ease? If he's lynched and revealed to be a townie, be sure to count with a FOS (at the very least) coming from me.

[safariguy5]

10 makes more sense. The vote of the guy getting voted for shouldn't count in the majority tally, since he's not going to vote for himself.

Yeah, you've modded before, you should know that a lynch is majority, with 10 not being majority for 20 people.

[firth4eva]

Yeah I'm not too concerned about the Zing! thing. It's mildly entertainig, mildly annoying.


Firth makes me a bit suspicious by responding to streaker and then voting shield without commenting on the vote. seems like an odd choice, but my vote is staying put. Hank seems more suspicious, new evidence had little to no impact on him.

fos jonty fos shield, vote staying on yoshi though but if we're still at a point of no lynch at the deadline I would not mind lynching either of these

Justify this.

Unvote

Vote Firth

It's day one, and hank looks more like he's joking around than trying to waste time in order to benefit the mafia. This doesnt warrant a vote though.

[jonty125]

May I ask why you have done four qoutes without explaining, why, and what they represent or prove?

[TheSaxlad]

Jonty because i am an idiot.

Rodion because I cant count...

Happy

[TheSaxlad]

Vote Count

BOLD is the Person closest to a lynch.


# firth4eva(1-pcm)
# Metsfanmax(3-,jeraado, commander,hank)
# Haggis McMutton
# Victor Sullivan (1-naxus,)
# streaker
# Bleed_Green
# Jimfinn
# DoomYoshi
# Gilligan
# jonty125
# commander9
# naxus
# Rodion
# jrh_cardinal (1-jonty)
# safariguy5 (1-shieldgenerator)
# Army of God
# hank44soccer (6-gilligan,streaker,yoshi,jimfinn,safari,victor)
# Pancakemix
# shieldgenerator7 (4-,haggis,rodion,AoG,firth)
# jeraado

#NO LYNCH

20 Alive, 11 to Lynch

Thanks Guys for correcting me, mod error. As I said in the rules:

1.The moderator is always right. Do not try and argue with me. However we are all human and we all make mistakes. I will try and fix any mistake I may have made.

[pancakemix]

May I ask why you have done four qoutes without explaining, why, and what they represent or prove?

REEEEEAAAAD

Justify this.

Unvote

Vote Firth

It's day one, and hank looks more like he's joking around than trying to waste time in order to benefit the mafia. This doesnt warrant a vote though.

He is scummy, therefore he is not scummy. That makes sense.

[jonty125]

Oh, I couldn't see the link bbeween the bottom two quotes. I could at the top but even that's wrong as firth had vote sheild before the quoote.

[Bleed_Green]

Yeah I'm not too concerned about the Zing! thing. It's mildly entertainig, mildly annoying.


Firth makes me a bit suspicious by responding to streaker and then voting shield without commenting on the vote. seems like an odd choice, but my vote is staying put. Hank seems more suspicious, new evidence had little to no impact on him.

fos jonty fos shield, vote staying on yoshi though but if we're still at a point of no lynch at the deadline I would not mind lynching either of these

Justify this.

Unvote

Vote Firth

It's day one, and hank looks more like he's joking around than trying to waste time in order to benefit the mafia. This doesnt warrant a vote though.

I said I would catch up sorry I was busy changing out an 80 bed long term care facilities phone system to VoIP (Voice over IP) which took up all my time since it was just me and another guy.. But now to the task at hand.. Firth is pretty adamant that is has no connection to hank but still pursed the unvote for Hank.. with a minor defense but an aggressive move for his unvote. I still have not seen Hank return to give and explanation and defense to this claim so I believe Hank to be scummy and firth to be cahoots with him. Until Hank returns with a damn good argument i VOTE Hank and FOS Firth

[Bleed_Green]

Streaker wrote: Hank, firth, same goes to you about my post against you 2. Anything to say about it?


I defended Hank because I believe him to be town... stop getting annoyed because I told you to unvote.

unvote vote shield

Here is the quote for the aggressive behavior to unvote hank by firth

[Haggis_McMutton]

Hmm, I'm not feeling the case on hank here.

He accused other players of not being serious and then wasn't serious himself. Seems more nooby than anything to me. Shield seems a better choice.

Still, link with firth + him posting without contributing anything makes him a decent D1 lynch I guess.


Hank, you're at L-2, now is the time to show if you can contribute or not.


P.S. In case I die in the meantime or something: If shield/jonty is eventually revealed as scum, town should look carefully at how the wagons evolved today

[firth4eva]

I could at the top but even that's wrong as firth had vote sheild before the quoote.

No I hadn't

Firth is pretty adamant that is has no connection to hank but still pursed the unvote for Hank.. [/color]

Just so I know, you believe I am mafia because I openly defended my so-called mafia buddy day 1? This is as stupid as the accusations against safari. No mafia would so openly defend a partner day 1.

Justify this.

Unvote

Vote Firth

It's day one, and hank looks more like he's joking around than trying to waste time in order to benefit the mafia. This doesnt warrant a vote though.

He is scummy, therefore he is not scummy. That makes sense.

I'll reword because you didn't understand first time and my meaning was unclear without commas.
"Hank looks more like he is joking around. He doesn't look like he is trying to help mafia by wasting time."
Oh, and you might want to put this back in:

Stop aggressively trying to lynch me because I suggested you were prodded.

[DoomYoshi]

Now that's what I call a freakout. vote firth

[firth4eva]

Now that's what I call a freakout. vote firth

Yeah, definitely
Let's see who jumps on THIS bandwagon

[Rodion]

Now that's what I call a freakout. vote firth

Don't you need to unvote first?

[pancakemix]

Justify this.

Unvote

Vote Firth

It's day one, and hank looks more like he's joking around than trying to waste time in order to benefit the mafia. This doesnt warrant a vote though.

He is scummy, therefore he is not scummy. That makes sense.

I'll reword because you didn't understand first time and my meaning was unclear without commas.
"Hank looks more like he is joking around. He doesn't look like he is trying to help mafia by wasting time."
Oh, and you might want to put this back in:

Stop aggressively trying to lynch me because I suggested you were prodded.

LOL. U mad? U think I mad?

Also, that still doesn't explain why you think he's town.

[DoomYoshi]

Now that's what I call a freakout. vote firth

Don't you need to unvote first?

I have unvoted twice already. I guess I could go a third time.

[firth4eva]

Also, that still doesn't explain why you think he's town.

Yes it does. And you never explained why you voted me. Double standards?

[pancakemix]

Also, that still doesn't explain why you think he's town.

Yes it does. And you never explained why you voted me. Double standards?

No it doesn't. Just because you say "This inherently scummy thing is not scummy in this situation" does not mean that that person is town or that you should have any reason to believe him to be town.

And I voted you asking you to justify that opinion. You have yet do so to my satisfaction. Thus my vote stands.

[firth4eva]

Also, that still doesn't explain why you think he's town.

Yes it does. And you never explained why you voted me. Double standards?

No it doesn't. Just because you say "This inherently scummy thing is not scummy in this situation" does not mean that that person is town or that you should have any reason to believe him to be town.[/quote]
Joking around on day 1 is not "inherently scummy", you did it yourself!

And I voted you asking you to justify that opinion. You have yet do so to my satisfaction. Thus my vote stands.

It's a vote based on nothing.

I'd put you down as frustrated townie rather than anything else.

[Rodion]

Now that's what I call a freakout. vote firth

Don't you need to unvote first?

I have unvoted twice already. I guess I could go a third time.

I just checked the mod's last vote tally (bottom of page 14) and checked to see if you had unvoted after that. Maybe you unvoted before that and the mod failed to update the vote count accordingly?

[safariguy5]

This is all well and interesting, but we need to choose a target. On the one hand, we seem to be on Hank because he's been minimally active in terms of evidence and bandwagonning without really contributing.

Then on the other hand, we're jumping on firth for defending Hank. The argument of mafia members not defending each other day 1 is wifom. You cannot use that to justify defending him. The easiest thing to do is to pressure a claim out of someone. Then decide whether the other person is scummy by association.