POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 7 Town Win! Premium goes to Sully

[Commander9]

perhaps I dont understand and I could probably go back to confirm, but can someone explain to me how commander knew beforehand that the two in question were pro town roles? It was also possible that they were not. I guess thats what I haven't understood the most from Commander.

Fircoal has also added little of value so far it would seem, and if worse came to worse I would be willing to consider him for a day 1 vote.

Not completely sure what you meant by this. Where have I said that I knew anyone's role? I have a couple of suspects that I think could be scum, but I don't know anyone's role. (strangely enough, that's surprising as I think my character should know another one, but oh well...)

[strike wolf]

perhaps I dont understand and I could probably go back to confirm, but can someone explain to me how commander knew beforehand that the two in question were pro town roles? It was also possible that they were not. I guess thats what I haven't understood the most from Commander.

Fircoal has also added little of value so far it would seem, and if worse came to worse I would be willing to consider him for a day 1 vote.

Not completely sure what you meant by this. Where have I said that I knew anyone's role? I have a couple of suspects that I think could be scum, but I don't know anyone's role. (strangely enough, that's surprising as I think my character should know another one, but oh well...)

Possibly meant mandy?

[Commander9]

Disregard my last post - after reading Vio's post I understood what you meant:

I can understand your confusion tonka, and such a thing would normally look suspicious. However, I think enough hints have been dropped through this thread since day one- and I would rather that they remain subtle. Commander has most likely picked up on these hints, and I don't think anymore attention needs to be brought to these two pro-town roles. Perhaps Day 3 or Day 4 would be better for more explanation, but not this early in the game.

I would prefer to scoot this matter under the rug for now, for the best interest of the town.

100% agreed with this. We should best move away from this for now. Any more hints might lead other people to understanding this and if they've not picked it up, it's for the best.

@ Strike - I think he referenced my comment when I talked about protecting Elizabeth.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Reading through I think nagerous and Vi have a point on the fircoal wagon. For him to come and attack falko for more info, when it wasnt needed is just plain downright scummy...

vote fircoal

This is the one that caught my attention. So far he hasn't added much, and then all of a sudden hops on the fircoal wagon right before deadline, using the "he wanted too much info" that has been spoken by a couple of people.

I know that right before deadline this probably won't amount to much, but unvote vote Sax. At the very least, he should be looked at tomorrow.

-Tails

Out of interest what reasoning would you expect him to use? Fircoal has laid low, and only posts to fish information out about the role flavour of one of the key roles. Your logic for voting him on this point doesn't make sense. A lynch is preferable to no lynch we all know that so I don't see the harm in the fact that he would join the bandwagon at this stage when time is running out.

I agree with you. I merely pointed out that for a player who has done almost nothing, to suddenly BW on the latest suspect was scummy. In essence he's doing the same thing chu is doing.

-Tails

[Commander9]

A proven theorem, actually.

I definitely hope that it was a joke

Deadline is approaching and instead of discussion intensifying in order to avoid a No Lynch, everyone is off sulking because their bandwagon turned out to be against a pro-town role.

Oh, and this post has been really helpful to direct them to the right direction

I will follow Mandy on this one, Vote Commander.

By any chance you can provide some justification or do you just prefer blind bandwaggoning?

Mod, Can we get a vote count?

Pretty pretty please?


@ Deadline

4 players that I'd like to pressure the most are Mandy, Fir, Strike and Victor (in that order).

[strike wolf]

Ah I see now. I forgot to mention. Doc should protect falko. If we have a bodyguard protect elizabeth or a busdriver switch her.

[Anarkistsdream]

I think there is a stronger case against Fircoal than against Mandy, Commander. I also think more people would be willing to vote for the Pikachu...

[Commander9]

I think there is a stronger case against Fircoal than against Mandy, Commander. I also think more people would be willing to vote for the Pikachu...

As far as my mind goes, case against Mandy is just as strong (if not stronger), but as I've said, I'm perfectly willing to vote for any of the 4 that I mentioned, but I'd like to see vote count first. My big pet peeve with Mandy is how aggressively he tried to push for a certain things based on bad logic, yet defended Falco so much, so he'd basically look like a pro-town hero (the same strategy that he has accused me of using with Victor), because if he's scum (and know who's not), he knew that Falco was not scum and even though he couldn't quite logically justify it, he stood up for Falco and defended him against most of the people, so when Falco turns up town, he looks very townish.

There's a discrepancy in his behaviour (from what I've seen of him in games I read or played with him) as while he is used to making a lot of theories (doesn't matter on his alignment), they're usually at least partially logically sound and have some sense, while in here... Furthermore, I don't remember him having such a tunnel vision either, so it's really odd and that's why I'm comfortable with having my vote on him.

[mandalorian2298]

Thanks for a vote of support Edocsil, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

2. Mandy also to me looks like a very valid lynch. I'd like to apologize in part because I feel I was too quick in writing off his theory as justr mandy-esque because it seems to feed into a series of odd statements which make me feel he has a oddly good grip on both this game's mechanics and who is town. I feel at the very least an investigative role should take a look at him tonight.

Well, now at least can understand the Falko bandwagon. It seems to me that knowing what the f*ck I'm doing is a capital crime in this game.

Apparently, again, it will take a losing a bunch of townies without reply for anyone to start listening to me. Let me make myself clear here, I don't claim that I have a 100% sure case against Commander, I am saying that he is a good Day 1 lynch. PCM would be my second choice and any of the submarriners the evil that would be necessary WERE THERE NOT FOR THE FIRST TWO CHOICES. I would also like to repeat that Falko bandwagon was idiotic and anyone who had take the time to check out all of his posts in this thread would have to conclude, not that he is TOWN, but that he gave no sign of being scum.

I am officially washing my hands of Day 1. Lynch whoever you want (or, more likely waste the remaining day and achieve No lynch). Lynch Fircoal for him being busy and all of you being to lazy to actually search for scum. I don't care. When the Town gets beaten badly enough and you guys decide that it would be nice to lynch some scum for a change, let me know.

WATCHER, on the off chance that you are one of the few players who actually intend to do something for Town, I suggest you watch Falko. If not watch the clouds in the sky, I don't care.

[Commander9]

Thanks for a vote of support Edocsil, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

Oh yes, supporting a BW (which was built on nothing) without any justificiation - I'll agree... makes me all warm and fuzzy

Well, now at least can understand the Falko bandwagon. It seems to me that knowing what the f*ck I'm doing is a capital crime in this game.

Apparently, again, it will take a losing a bunch of townies without reply for anyone to start listening to me. Let me make myself clear here, I don't claim that I have a 100% sure case against Commander, I am saying that he is a good Day 1 lynch. PCM would be my second choice and any of the submarriners the evil that would be necessary WERE THERE NOT FOR THE FIRST TWO CHOICES. I would also like to repeat that Falko bandwagon was idiotic and anyone who had take the time to check out all of his posts in this thread would have to conclude, not that he is TOWN, but that he gave no sign of being scum.

Perhaps you'd defend him (even though logically he was kind of asking for it) because you know he'd turn up town so you could this? Secondly, would you mind to actually build a case against me or PCM instead of joke writing how evil and scummy we are?

I am officially washing my hands of Day 1. Lynch whoever you want (or, more likely waste the remaining day and achieve No lynch). Lynch Fircoal for him being busy and all of you being to lazy to actually search for scum. I don't care. When the Town gets beaten badly enough and you guys decide that it would be nice to lynch some scum for a change, let me know.

WATCHER, on the off chance that you are one of the few players who actually intend to do something for Town, I suggest you watch Falko. If not watch the clouds in the sky, I don't care.

My my, that's a big loss

I do agree with two things, however:
1) I do agree that town needs to gather around and decide on someone and do it fast, because we're running out of time.
2) Watching Falco is a pretty good idea (even if it's to discourage scum)

[Anarkistsdream]

Are you really this upset, Mandalorian?

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Perhaps you'd defend him (even though logically he was kind of asking for it) because you know he'd turn up town so you could this?

Ironic.

-Tails

[Commander9]

Ironic.

-Tails

Yes, yes it is. It's still true, however.

By any chance you'd want to contribute something more?

[edocsil]

Perhaps you'd defend him (even though logically he was kind of asking for it) because you know he'd turn up town so you could this?

Ironic.

-Tails

My vote has absolutely nothing to do with earlier resentments Com. Take it as flattery. A player who I respect (but assume ins fking crazy) thinks you are a good lynch. We don't have the time to build another case, and I don't like the idea of a Fir lynch, so we go with the best we can get.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Ironic.

-Tails

Yes, yes it is. It's still true, however.

By any chance you'd want to contribute something more?

Well considering how I've got a case on Sax, no. How about you add your thoughts to that?

-Tails

[Commander9]

My vote has absolutely nothing to do with earlier resentments Com. Take it as flattery. A player who I respect (but assume ins fking crazy) thinks you are a good lynch. We don't have the time to build another case, and I don't like the idea of a Fir lynch, so we go with the best we can get.

Fair enough. However - a thought for you to chew: what if he's scum and trying to get rid of his rivals? Has Mandalorian never been scum and tried to manipulate the town with theses cases?

Well considering how I've got a case on Sax, no. How about you add your thoughts to that?

-Tails

I've already shared my thoughts about other cases and I honestly think that there are much better lynches than Sax and there's no way we can get enough people for him, so I am thinking you are trying to split the town.

[Mr. Squirrel]

About the watcher, won't that shoot us in the foot? Let's say that both the mafia and the doc target falko. The watcher would have to reveal both in order to have any chance at catching the scum. If does that, then the scum will also know who the doc is. So we would be trading our doc for a mafia scum. If the watcher does watch, then he needs to keep the info to himself and figure it out on his own, otherwise our doc is in danger.

[Victor Sullivan]

Tails brought up some good points about TheSaxlad, and I think he's worth investigating tonight, if anyone's a cop or cop-like character, but it's kind of late at this point, and I still am rather fond of lynching strike wolf... (I told you the Falko lynch was bad!...sorta)

Just out of curiosity, would the British be the mafia? And how would Norrington and Barbosa be aligned? I guess it kind of depends on the movie... And what of Davy Jones? Could he be mafia? Or would he be something else? Bah, I suppose we can figure that out later, but it's been troubling me.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

I've already shared my thoughts about other cases and I honestly think that there are much better lynches than Sax and there's no way we can get enough people for him, so I am thinking you are trying to split the town.

Does not compute.

Who is your vote on? I couldn't find one. Also, please tell me who the favorite it is at the moment. Right now it's between Strike and Chu. I can't really split the town when there's already multiple cases. Who should I vote for Commie? Mandy because he hurt your feelings?

-Tails

[mandalorian2298]

Are you really this upset, Mandalorian?

Being pissed off helps my process.

But truthfully, I never take my in-game emotions to the out-of-the-game context or vice versa ("Lynch Angel!" but nëver "Lynch Anarkistsdream!" (how the hell did i get an umlaut on that 'e'. My new keyboard is really weird )). So, while mandalorian2298 thinks that you are all nice people to spend your time on CC playing Mafia , while Game mandalorian thinks that, with few exceptions, you are all hopeless scullions who should take a stroll on the plank!

[safariguy5]

Vote Count

Mandy(3)- Fircoal, Commander, freezie
Commander9(2)- mandy, edocsil
VioIet(1)- Mass Miracle
strike wolf(4)- Victor, pcm, Mr. S, falko
Falkomagno(3)- streaker, Haggis, iliad
Fircoal(4)- nag, /, Vio, Sax
Saxlad(2)- tails, strike

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline is in 1 day.

Sorry Vio, I set the deadline a long time ago precisely to prevent a long drawn out Day 1.

[strike wolf]

Perhaps you'd defend him (even though logically he was kind of asking for it) because you know he'd turn up town so you could this?

Ironic.

-Tails

My vote has absolutely nothing to do with earlier resentments Com. Take it as flattery. A player who I respect (but assume ins fking crazy) thinks you are a good lynch. We don't have the time to build another case, and I don't like the idea of a Fir lynch, so we go with the best we can get.

Ok this I really don't get. This is mafia. You've been in enough that you know you shouldn't just blindly follow a player when you don't know that person's role. If you have an actual case to make about commander than say it, otherwise your post looks scummy as I've seen from you.

the existance of a watcher is also highly speculative. Though I would suggest that if falko is watched but does not die there is no reason to reveal who targetted him.

Edit before post: Ok thought fir had more votes. unvote vote chu

[Iliad]

I must apologise for bandwagoning, but we do ned a lynch, fircoal has been acting erratically, which I already have outlined and vote fir

[nagerous]

Tails brought up some good points about TheSaxlad, and I think he's worth investigating tonight, if anyone's a cop or cop-like character, but it's kind of late at this point, and I still am rather fond of lynching strike wolf... (I told you the Falko lynch was bad!...sorta)
.

Tails was already FOSed for making guiding comments towards who the cop should investigate, or did you skim and miss that? Who they investigate is their choice alone.

Everyone who is scum should now post something in Pink, since that is an old Day 1 tradition!

Something.

Minor point but does anyone think someone is trying to be a bit too clever here?

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Tails was already FOSed for making guiding comments towards who the cop should investigate, or did you skim and miss that? Who they investigate is their choice alone.

Was I FOS'ed in this game? I thought that was the Nolan game.

-Tails