safariguy5 wrote:Well, anyways. I think that besides drabod's non sequiter of a post, logically the largest threat to mafia besides vig would be cop. But if I had to choose between a cop that's just a cop, and a cop who's also a doc, the JOAT is stronger imho. So by that logic, drabod would be the more likely recruit than nagerous. Assuming the mafia didn't go for the vig (unlikely in my mind) then drabod would be the next strongest target.
One things to keep in mind here is that if we lynch Drabod, AD kills someone and then dies, and the mafia kills some one. If the scum isn't AD, Drabod, or the person that AD kills then we lose. So, this would be the fastest way to end the game. We would win if Drabod or AD is the scum, or AD kills the right person. But we lose if it isn't. Although, no matter what route we take, I don't think the town will get to choose more than three targets anyway. Anyhow, what worries me about this suggestion is that if you are scum, safariguy, it most likely leads to you winning tonight. With your busdriver powers you could avoid an attempt to kill you.
nagerous wrote:I don't like this idea because it was drabod that handed commander's head on a plate. It seems illogical that drabod would sacrifice his own recruiter.
Excellent point, I don't think that the mafia would sacrifice such an important role unless they absolutely had to.
Commander9 wrote:Confirmed townies who I'm sure told us the truth:
Yoshi - I'm fairly sure he's the town doctor and the main reason he has looked suspicious is more so due to his inexperience than anything else.
Nagerous - Edoc has already proved that he's the town's cop.
PCM - I'm pretty much completely sure that he IS the governor.
People I'm unsure over:
spiesr - generally appears to have acted pro-town, but I also think that the PR is suspicious (perhaps a possible cultist?)
People I find the scummiest:
Nark/Drabod - something with this pair still doesn't add up, IMO.
safari - claimed busdriver who was supposed to protect the town (Edoc didn't want to at first, but conceded later) and the person that was supposed to be protected ends up dead in suspicious circumstances.
Here is a post from Day 2 where Commander (Scum Recruiter) categorized people. This leads to the question, do you think that he would have put his recruit in the first group? Or do we want to go the WIFOM route and think that he did the reverse?
Commander9 wrote:I just ask for one thing - if I'll be lynched and turn innocent, please, please take a look at Nark/Drabod (likely Safari as well, but I he's not as suspicious as those two). I've really said everything that I can and you can now judge me by my actions and claim. Even if I'll be lynched, please look back at my previous posts (and this one) to make your judgement and don't blindly follow our "masons."
In this post he pleads with us to go after AD, Drabod, and safariguy should he turn up innocent upon his lynch. Now he knows that he won't turn up innocent, so is this some sort of scheme where he thinks that those he names here would actually look better after his lynch becuase a scum called them out, or is this just chaff that he is throwing up trying to look like a townie in a last ditch attempt?
DoomYoshi wrote:Why are you 100% that pcm is the governor commander?
DoomYoshi made an interesting point here towards Commander. Why did Commander say he was so certain about pancakemix's claim when there had been no proof. Obviously, as scum Commander knew whether or not pancakemix was scum. Is it becuase he recruited pancakemix and wanted everyone else to be confident in pancakemix's townishness? Or was it just him trying to look like a townie?
safariguy5 wrote:Well, if we really want to "clear out the scummy people, there's an easy solution. You all thought I was scummy, but at this point, the easiest thing to do is lynch a town role that isn't that important. To make things the simplest and prevent any misdirected things, the logical thing to do if both PCM and I are under the gun would be to lynch me and then NK PCM. 2 investigations should be plenty to figure out who's town if we don't get the scum from the night actions. I'm willing to take the bullet if it eliminates all possibilities of scum to hide.
You know, I kind of like this plan. However, coming from you it makes me have confusion. Perhaps it is those alien rays again. Anyone have a large amount of aluminum foil or perhaps a Faraday cage that I could borrow?