I don't care what anyone else says...

[RobinJ]

Last one sounds like the most fun

[chessplaya]

it does if he is younger then 10 :D

[Hologram]

AUTO-ATTACK IS NOT RANDOM!

In some of the games I'm playing at the moment I am losing pretty badly due to the same teammate deadbeating. I know that to have any chance of victory, I need to go all out attack.

So, a few examples of what has happened good with auto-attack:
Won 9 against 13 and 6 against 10 - possible but unlikely to do it 2 turns in a row.

So, a few example of what has happened bad with auto-attack:
Lost 11 against 3, 8 against 1 and 17 against 3. This is highly improbable, especially since it happened 3 turns in a row!

I know I should just ignore the button but I can't be bothered having to wait so long to kill the armies by ordinary attack!

All I'm saying is that the dice definitely streak with auto-attack

Well, if you're in a freestyle game, my suggestion to you is stop playing freestyle. If you're not, then you can just be patient and go about things prudently. Don't use auto-attack unless you absolutely have to take that territory.

[AndrewB]

AUTO-ATTACK IS NOT RANDOM!

In some of the games I'm playing at the moment I am losing pretty badly due to the same teammate deadbeating. I know that to have any chance of victory, I need to go all out attack.

So, a few examples of what has happened good with auto-attack:
Won 9 against 13 and 6 against 10 - possible but unlikely to do it 2 turns in a row.

So, a few example of what has happened bad with auto-attack:
Lost 11 against 3, 8 against 1 and 17 against 3. This is highly improbable, especially since it happened 3 turns in a row!

I know I should just ignore the button but I can't be bothered having to wait so long to kill the armies by ordinary attack!

All I'm saying is that the dice definitely streak with auto-attack

Man, you don't make sense, random means that once you can won 9 against 13, amd another time you can lose 11 against 3.

Exactly, what you have described. Random mean it is unpredictable, and can be anything.

[AndrewB]

Does anyone here who complains about that the dices are not random have any knowledge of software development? Im not so good at php, but one would assume that in php there is a random function which the developer can use to generate random numbers. One would also assume that lackattack with the creation of this site has to have pretty good knowledge about php.

And if lackattack is so good he managed to create this site Im sure that his not that stupid that he would try and create an own random function.

So what do we have.
1. We have lackattack, probably using rand(1,6) (had to google syntax ).
2. We have a bunch with other gamingsites using the same function.
3. We have an even bigger bunch of whiners here.

And what should we do? My suggestion is for all of the whiners to create accounts at all other sites using php for games and in their forums tell the players that their game isnt random. It should take some time and in the meanwhile, we who are satisfied with the outcome of the dices, and can accept a badbeat or two can do so without any whine.

They don't use rand PHP function. they use sheets of numbers from Random.org.

Check out FAQ, question 17.

[AAFitz]

When I was trying to finish all my games quickly before I went on vacation, I used the AA exclusively.... and ended up losing all my games. Score plummeted from swords to stripes... lol!!

[AAFitz]

auto attack is great in two places....when it doesnt matter because you have 70 armies attacking one,

but more importantly when you absolutely have to break the opponents 15 and you have 7 or you lose....nothing to lose...AA it all the time

if you lose the game if you lose the attack...not a great idea...

[JimRocky]

AUTO-ATTACK IS NOT RANDOM!

Seems random to me. Win some, lose some.
I use it often, not always though.

It's not like gambling where you can't win 'em all, but you can lose 'em all if you aren't careful.

[tahitiwahini]

They don't use rand PHP function. they use sheets of numbers from Random.org.

Check out FAQ, question 17.

From http://www.random.org/essay.html:

The way the random.org random number generator works is quite simple. A radio is tuned into a frequency where nobody is broadcasting. The atmospheric noise picked up by the receiver is fed into a Sun SPARC workstation through the microphone port where it is sampled by a program as an eight bit mono signal at a frequency of 8KHz. The upper seven bits of each sample are discarded immediately and the remaining bits are gathered and turned into a stream of bits with a high content of entropy. Skew correction is performed on the bit stream, in order to ensure that there is an approximately even distribution of 0s and 1s.

A number of basic tests, such as the entropy test described above, were implemented by John Walker from Fourmilab in form of his ent program. Here is what John's program said about one megabyte of numbers from random.org:

Entropy = 7.999805 bits per character.

Optimum compression would reduce the size
of this 1048576 character file by 0 percent.

Chi square distribution for 1048576 samples is 283.61, and randomly
would exceed this value 25.00 percent of the times.

Arithmetic mean value of data bytes is 127.46 (127.5 = random).
Monte Carlo value for PI is 3.138961792 (error 0.08 percent).
Serial correlation coefficient is 0.000417 (totally uncorrelated = 0.0).

John's documentation for the ent program contains detailed explanations of each test, but they generally show the random.org numbers to be quite good. The Chi Square test is probably the most commonly used test for randomness, and numbers pass this test if the percentage figure falls between 10% and 90%. Every single number generated at random.org is subjected to John Walker's tests and the results are logged. The last twenty log entries at any time can be seen on the online statistics page.

[Spockers]

AUTO-ATTACK IS NOT RANDOM!

In some of the games I'm playing at the moment I am losing pretty badly due to the same teammate deadbeating. I know that to have any chance of victory, I need to go all out attack.

So, a few examples of what has happened good with auto-attack:
Won 9 against 13 and 6 against 10 - possible but unlikely to do it 2 turns in a row.

So, a few example of what has happened bad with auto-attack:
Lost 11 against 3, 8 against 1 and 17 against 3. This is highly improbable, especially since it happened 3 turns in a row!

I know I should just ignore the button but I can't be bothered having to wait so long to kill the armies by ordinary attack!

All I'm saying is that the dice definitely streak with auto-attack

ATTN: WHINGING LOSERS

f*ck off and take your whinging somewhere else. It happens to everyone just as much as you have good streaks and don't bother noticing.

so please for the love of god just shut up.


Kind regards,

Spockers

[Wheelster]

Random doesn't necessarily mean fair. If you hit a bad "streak" in the dice, I suggest stopping.

I keep on going because if you already have good odds going into it (attacker with 3+ attacking armies always does), & you get some bad luck it just increases the odds for good luck

you're not so bright sir... you're due for goodluck only exists in your mind, not with statistics

[Guilty_Biscuit]

I've seen nothing on this site to suggest the dice aren't random. I've lost a few big rolls with auto-attack. Lost 15 against 3 today but it can and will happen.

Really bad losses tend to be few and far between but if you are playing a lot of games they will seem to happen a lot.

This is because you are 'rolling' an awful lot of dice.

It would be far more suspicious if this hardly ever happened.

[RobinJ]

AUTO-ATTACK IS NOT RANDOM!

In some of the games I'm playing at the moment I am losing pretty badly due to the same teammate deadbeating. I know that to have any chance of victory, I need to go all out attack.

So, a few examples of what has happened good with auto-attack:
Won 9 against 13 and 6 against 10 - possible but unlikely to do it 2 turns in a row.

So, a few example of what has happened bad with auto-attack:
Lost 11 against 3, 8 against 1 and 17 against 3. This is highly improbable, especially since it happened 3 turns in a row!

I know I should just ignore the button but I can't be bothered having to wait so long to kill the armies by ordinary attack!

All I'm saying is that the dice definitely streak with auto-attack

ATTN: WHINGING LOSERS

f*ck off and take your whinging somewhere else. It happens to everyone just as much as you have good streaks and don't bother noticing.

so please for the love of god just shut up.


Kind regards,

Spockers

Ironic that - I'm told to f*ck off but I still get kind regards.

I do not doubt that everyone else has equally bad luck at times but I do believe that auto-attack streaks - I don't think that to have such unbelievably good luck, then bad luck, then good luc, then bad luck in consecutive rounds is rational. Somebody said that it was random because of these rolls but the odds are so high and it is always happening! I'm not the only one - plenty of people complain about it. Please read my posts properly before responding in the way you have.

I agree with AAFitz about hitting it when I am losing badly - it won me a game just yesterday (7 versus 9 or so) but I also should have more patience attacking and keep away from the auto-attack button.

Finally, I appreciate everyone's views but, in my title, I said I don't care what anyone says to the contrary. I really just came on to have a good rant and so, from that perspective, I can understand why you are angry with me.

[RobinJ]

Oh and (sorry for double-posting) I am not a loser - I am not a great player but I'm not absolutely shite either. You belong in the flame wars mate - not here.

[Spockers]

plenty of people complain about it

exactly the reason that i replied the way i did. I am so so sick of people whining about it.


chin up.

[hendy]

auto attack fucking blows

[Iainarm]

I don't think it matters. I've lost many armies using auto attacks in the past, but have also lost just as many due to normal attacks. Once I killed 14 guys in one attack and only lost one guy... I felt bad for the guy though, it was his last territory... Anyway, auto-attack is definately just as random as normal attacks...