Matrix mafia Day 3 - no-one died? [Abandoned]

[strike wolf]

Yeah you're right. Edoc's vote was already on / so unless he has magic double voting powers...

[aage]

Yeah you're right. Edoc's vote was already on / so unless he has magic double voting powers...

Exactly.

[strike wolf]

Still we almost already had sax quick lynch him so unless everyones ready to risk a quick lynch of a likely townie maybe we can remember to be more careful about the vote count in the future.

[Commander9]

Still we almost already had sax quick lynch him so unless everyones ready to risk a quick lynch of a likely townie maybe we can remember to be more careful about the vote count in the future.

Unvote, but it's time to claim, /. I don't like the way you've played this one, the way Dlanor defended you, the way Wolf started to act recently.

[Haggis_McMutton]

Still we almost already had sax quick lynch him so unless everyones ready to risk a quick lynch of a likely townie maybe we can remember to be more careful about the vote count in the future.

Unvote, but it's time to claim, /. I don't like the way you've played this one, the way Dlanor defended you, the way Wolf started to act recently.

This.

Even though I fully believe that edoc has a secondary win condition that will hurt town, it seems unlikely to me that he'd be recruited. Basing your whole case on that theory seems like a cheap attempt to shift the limelight.

Additionally, Knox's and, to a lesser extent, strike's actions are quite odd, it is starting to look like they really want to keep you alive for some reason.

At this point, I want to hear your claim.

On a side note: Sax, come one man ... You don't hammer without listening to a claim, ever. Why the hell did you pull that stunt?

[strike wolf]

Still we almost already had sax quick lynch him so unless everyones ready to risk a quick lynch of a likely townie maybe we can remember to be more careful about the vote count in the future.

Unvote, but it's time to claim, /. I don't like the way you've played this one, the way Dlanor defended you, the way Wolf started to act recently.

This.

Even though I fully believe that edoc has a secondary win condition that will hurt town, it seems unlikely to me that he'd be recruited. Basing your whole case on that theory seems like a cheap attempt to shift the limelight.

Additionally, Knox's and, to a lesser extent, strike's actions are quite odd, it is starting to look like they really want to keep you alive for some reason.

At this point, I want to hear your claim.

On a side note: Sax, come one man ... You don't hammer without listening to a claim, ever. Why the hell did you pull that stunt?

You act like this is a new stunt for sax. He's pretty much been using his position as The Oracle to pull stunts and act however he pleases all game. If anything with the exception of where he almost got lynched he's just. Gotten bolder about it as the game has gone on.

Secondly no I don't like how quickly some people are to dismiss the idea that edoc had been recruited. Sax was a risky recruit as you don't know if he's going to be busdriven or watched or anything. Flow was risky as you don't know who she is and you could be attempting to recruit a character you really can't know anything about. And slash is right about icon. Being a bad choice no point in recruiting a townie that can't vote when there are better subjects out there. It basically leaves edoc, fircoal or randomly selecting a mysterious person where you don't know the consequences. We know that it wasn't fircoal. Add to that, edoc isn't your normal run of the mill survivor. he is head of a three man faction with a body guard and he's been role fishing heavily all day which is good for cult by the way. So no I don't think it's as incredulous to believe as some of you have brushed it off as being.

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Hmm, I thought you wanted activity, what am I supposed to do if not accuse anyone? Oh well, since some of you are hammer happy, I am Persephone, pro-town, I am unsatisfied with Merovingian's (edoc's) ways, and must lynch him in order to unlock my role's powers, I think you can tell how relentlessly I have been attacking edoc all game, but if it is in town's best interest to keep him alive, I will cease as it doesn't actually effect my win condition.... But I honestly did state my case against him.

[Commander9]

You act like this is a new stunt for sax. He's pretty much been using his position as The Oracle to pull stunts and act however he pleases all game. If anything with the exception of where he almost got lynched he's just. Gotten bolder about it as the game has gone on.

Yes, I agree, he's acting like an idiot and that's likely to get him in trouble soon enough.

Secondly no I don't like how quickly some people are to dismiss the idea that edoc had been recruited. Sax was a risky recruit as you don't know if he's going to be busdriven or watched or anything. Flow was risky as you don't know who she is and you could be attempting to recruit a character you really can't know anything about. And slash is right about icon. Being a bad choice no point in recruiting a townie that can't vote when there are better subjects out there. It basically leaves edoc, fircoal or randomly selecting a mysterious person where you don't know the consequences. We know that it wasn't fircoal. Add to that, edoc isn't your normal run of the mill survivor. he is head of a three man faction with a body guard and he's been role fishing heavily all day which is good for cult by the way. So no I don't think it's as incredulous to believe as some of you have brushed it off as being.

I agree that 00 would be a bad recruitment, but there are much better recruitment opportunities around than Edoc. I think that / is actually trying to grab a straw and get himself out of this position. I've said a lot of times now that I don't trust Edoc one bit, but /'s argument didn't seem convincing one bit.

EDIT: Well, he just claimed... And I'm not sure whether I'm buying that. I'll come back to this.

[strike wolf]

Hmmm...I'll have to finish rewatching Reloaded before I can have much of an opinion on the claim...it's interesting sounds like a role that should be in the game but it may be one that forces me to reconsider what may be the game set up.

[strike wolf]

Other than that sax may have been recruited possible but he was a huge risk for any cult or mafia to go after.

[safariguy5]

Hmm, pro town but powers are unlocked only after Merovingen is dead? Well he doesn't die in the movies, and Persephone's only "power" may be that she's an Energy Vampire (Kiss from Neo). However, I'm thinking this whole "powers" thing may be made up to make him less likely to be lynched. Besides, even if there is a third party usurper, edocsil should have still known the existence of Persephone, and he made no mention of that. I don't believe the claim.

[edocsil]

Hmm, pro town but powers are unlocked only after Merovingen is dead? Well he doesn't die in the movies, and Persephone's only "power" may be that she's an Energy Vampire (Kiss from Neo). However, I'm thinking this whole "powers" thing may be made up to make him less likely to be lynched. Besides, even if there is a third party usurper, edocsil should have still known the existence of Persephone, and he made no mention of that. I don't believe the claim.

I have no knowledge of her and I expect I would. There is absolutely nothing in my role that indicates she would be exist. I call fake, as if you look at commanders lists we are quickly running out of space for the characters we assume yet exist.

And right now I would like to say if people suspect ulterior motives for me pushing for / lynch, well they are certainly there. I do honestly believe it is a fake, and recent events cast a poor light on /.


Ah, found it. / lies and is scum.

Here I was when I was nearly lynched and at l-1 for about 24 hours or so.

Votecount

1. Tailgunner
2. Edoc 7 (Freezie(=Mr. Squirrel), Flow, xuereb, Saxlad, commander, strike, haggis)
3. VioIet
4. Haggis
5. Mr. Squirrel
6. Strike Wolf
7. TheSaxlad 3 (Fircoal)
8. Commander9 1 (vioIet)
9. 00iCon
10. Flow520
11. xuereb 1 (Tails)
12. /
13. Chu
14. Safariguy5

No Lynch And The Boring End Of An Overall Not Too Boring Day 1 (Safariguy)

14 alive, 8 to lynch.
Edoc'sil is at L-1.

Deadline tomorrow. Probably late afternoon / evening.

If he gains abilities from my lynch he would have been on that wagon. Adios scum.

[strike wolf]

True and good point though he did claim he wasn't affiliated with edoc's group (I don't think the role makes much sense though outside of being affiliated with edoc though so that doesn't persuade anything). As far as the going after Edoc deal...I've seen a little bit of evidence but it's hard to say if it was anything more enforced than what some of the people were doing at the time, maybe less though that has a lot to do with limited activity from / around the time Edoc was making his claim. Plus I believe there is some information about game set up that can come from /'s lynch regarding roles that may or may not be in the game beyond his own. It's not a guaranteed role to be in the game and it's not like we haven't discussed it's absence from the game or her objection to Frenchie, giving / something to go on...I'll hammer. vote /

[Haggis_McMutton]

Hmm, I thought you wanted activity, what am I supposed to do if not accuse anyone? Oh well, since some of you are hammer happy, I am Persephone, pro-town, I am unsatisfied with Merovingian's (edoc's) ways, and must lynch him in order to unlock my role's powers, I think you can tell how relentlessly I have been attacking edoc all game, but if it is in town's best interest to keep him alive, I will cease as it doesn't actually effect my win condition.... But I honestly did state my case against him.

This seems contrived.
1. You haven't been "relentlessly attacking edoc".
2. If what you say is true I don't think you'd be so eager to let edoc live, this sounds more like: "just don't lynch me, I'll do whatever".
3. minor character
4. it does seem likely that edoc should have at least received a hint towards the existence of such a character.

I just don't buy it. unvote vote /

and I think that's the hammer.

[Flow520]

Gosh Strike, you need to keep better track of the hammer. Haggis is the hammer :p

/ any last words before your lynch scene?

[strike wolf]

I'll take that as a comment regarding how I was not exactly happy about the fact that sax almost quick lynched earlier flow? For the record, forgetting someone unvoted and putting them at l-1 rather than hammering much more minor of a detail than potentially quick lynching cause you were either too bothered to actually check the vote count or Just didn't give a crap.

[Flow520]

I'll take that as a comment regarding how I was not exactly happy about the fact that sax almost quick lynched earlier flow? For the record, forgetting someone unvoted and putting them at l-1 rather than hammering much more minor of a detail than potentially quick lynching cause you were either too bothered to actually check the vote count or Just didn't give a crap.

Yes, and agreed.

[/]

Gosh Strike, you need to keep better track of the hammer. Haggis is the hammer :p

/ any last words before your lynch scene?

My bad, sorry for submarining. I need a RAM upgrade to keep up with these conversations.

[Commander9]

My bad, sorry for submarining. I need a RAM upgrade to keep up with these conversations.

Well, when one is gone for over a month, it's kind of hard to start trusting that guy.

[/]

My bad, sorry for submarining. I need a RAM upgrade to keep up with these conversations.

Well, when one is gone for over a month, it's kind of hard to start trusting that guy.

Two weeks of that were night, but w/e.

[aage]

Pff, why are you lynching someone at 2 am? :s

Ah well... The scene will be tomorrow cus I'm just tired as hell, but there is a lynch...

[strike wolf]

Why do you live in a time zone where it's 2 am!

[aage]

Why do you live in a time zone where it's 2 am!

You'd have to ask my parents :p


The Scene

"The great Morpheus. We meet at last."
BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG click.
"That really is not going to work."

Morpheus threw away his empty gun.
"And you are?"

The man in front of Morpheus straightened his tie. "Smith." Smith took a few steps towards Morpheus. "Agent Smith."

"You all look the same to me," Morpheus yelled, and had a go at punching the agent in the face.
Unsuccessfully.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZd11gQRZ9s

Neo and Trinity were pacing up and down on the bridge of the Nebuchadnezzar, generally being hopeless and desperate.

"We need to get him out of there!" Neo kept saying.
"No!" Trinity retorted. "He gave his life to save your, don't you DARE throw it away now!"

Suddenly Neo stopped walking.
"You know what? Morpheus gave up his life because he believes I'm something I'm not."
"What?!"
"I'm not the One, Trinity. The Oracle already hit me with that."
Short silence. "No, you have to be."
"I'm sorry, I'm not. I'm just another guy."
Again silence. "No, Neo, that's not true. It can't be true."
"Why?"
Long silence.

Tank joined the conversation. "Neo, this is loco. They've got Morpheus in a military-controlled building. Even if you somehow got inside, those are agents holding him. Three of them. I want Morpheus back too but what you're talking about is suicide."
"I know that's what it looks like, but it's not," Neo said. "I can't explain to you why it's not. Morpheus believes in something and he was ready to give his life, I understand that now. That's why I have to go."
Tank still wasn't convinced. "Why?"
"Because I believe in something."
"What?"
Neo's face was a hundred percent serious when he said "I believe I can bring him back. "



Neo (and Trinity, after a bit of an argument) now entered the Matrix. They knew the building, they knew where Morpheus was, and they knew what to expect. So they took the front door.

"Could you please remove any metallic items you may be carrying, keys, loose change...
... Holy shit!"


They were in.

Now to get to the roof... That was their best plan. There was a helicopter on the roof. With it, they could quickly acces the room where Morpheus was held. If their grab-and-run plan worked, they wouldn't have to fight any agents at all, which according to any standard was vital for their survival.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggFKLxAQBbc

show

"This is your Operator. I'm picking up some strange readings in the Code. It looks like one of the security programs of the Matrix has just been... deleted."



/ - Agent Smith - Mafia Godfather has been lynched!
No, he is not a cult leader or something. How the hell did you guys think I'd be able to balance that?



As a mafia fucking godfather you do not get lynched over FUCKING INACTIVITY. Geez.





Night 2 start!

[Commander9]

lol, I started another bw that took down a GF. Odd.

[strike wolf]

Hmm...