Buffy the Vampire Slayer Game over-Town Won-Graduation Day

[TA1LGUNN3R]

How long has it been since TWO posted at all?

He may need a bit of a prod...

Agreed. Although he asked to be replaced in one of my other games (can't remember which I'm in too many again).

@mandy--it's good to have someone who knows so much about the story.

In retrospect I must agree with / about Haggis' posting here. He jumped on CK's BW, and then Violet's, which as a third party, is beneficial to scum. That, coupled with his sparse posting, and I would like to hear something from him at least.

vote Haggis McMuffin

-Tails

[Haggis_McMutton]

How long has it been since TWO posted at all?

He may need a bit of a prod...

Agreed. Although he asked to be replaced in one of my other games (can't remember which I'm in too many again).

@mandy--it's good to have someone who knows so much about the story.

In retrospect I must agree with / about Haggis' posting here. He jumped on CK's BW, and then Violet's, which as a third party, is beneficial to scum. That, coupled with his sparse posting, and I would like to hear something from him at least.

vote Haggis McMuffin

-Tails

1. I was the first one to vote for CK and it was partly to end the joke vote stage, as I noted in the post itself.

2. Violet's wagon was a very valid one.

3. Killing townies is more beneficial to scum, so the third party thing really says nothing.

Anyway, I also have not watched the series and am now thoroughly confused. The consensus seemed to be that we had 2 separate kills last night, which makes the no death night now particularly strange.

[strike wolf]

well I was thinking that you had been only somewhat active anyways but you were able to get online to post fairly quickly after someone mentioned you.

[Anarkistsdream]

well I was thinking that you had been only somewhat active anyways but you were able to get online to post fairly quickly after someone mentioned you.

BURN!

[Commander9]

Well, definitely a good night, although some of the posts from the story + Mandy's post make me want to think that I'd be much better off if I'd have seen the series. Some of the things hardly make sense.

[Commander9]

1. I was the first one to vote for CK and it was partly to end the joke vote stage, as I noted in the post itself.

2. Violet's wagon was a very valid one.

3. Killing townies is more beneficial to scum, so the third party thing really says nothing.

Anyway, I also have not watched the series and am now thoroughly confused. The consensus seemed to be that we had 2 separate kills last night, which makes the no death night now particularly strange.

I actually have to say while I don't particularly trust him, some of this makes sense. Killing the 3rd party really doesn't tell us anything, because I can imagine both town and mafia wanting to red of it, although town may be more interested in that. There has been a lot of people who voted Vio and I think that there was a solid proof behind it.

[Haggis_McMutton]

well I was thinking that you had been only somewhat active anyways but you were able to get online to post fairly quickly after someone mentioned you.

I am here, reading, every day(sometimes except weekends). there's quite a bit more time needed to make a contributing post than to read an dispel a bullshit case on me before it starts.

Notice I'm mostly inactive in all my other games as well, same story there.

this post I just wrote took 30 seconds, analyzing cases on people in day 3 takes at least 30 minutes(for me anyway).

[naxus]

Well, definitely a good night, although some of the posts from the story + Mandy's post make me want to think that I'd be much better off if I'd have seen the series. Some of the things hardly make sense.

Agreed. It seems like alot of crazy shit went down

[safariguy5]

unvote vote TWO for submarining. I'm not sure how else to proceed.

[strike wolf]

Well the unfortunate thing is that between the no lynch day 1, lynching a universally dangerous role (making it just as advantageous for all sides) and no deaths night 2...we don't have much to go on and i'd rather not have to depend on a cop stepping forward and saying "he's guilty!" So I'm going back to my original suspicion day 2. I do not trust commander. I don't like the way he jumped onto the TWO wagon and I have been anything but dissuaded by his actions since.

[Commander9]

Well the unfortunate thing is that between the no lynch day 1, lynching a universally dangerous role (making it just as advantageous for all sides) and no deaths night 2...we don't have much to go on and i'd rather not have to depend on a cop stepping forward and saying "he's guilty!" So I'm going back to my original suspicion day 2. I do not trust commander. I don't like the way he jumped onto the TWO wagon and I have been anything but dissuaded by his actions since.

Oh please, don't tell me we're going back to this again...

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Well the unfortunate thing is that between the no lynch day 1, lynching a universally dangerous role (making it just as advantageous for all sides) and no deaths night 2...we don't have much to go on and i'd rather not have to depend on a cop stepping forward and saying "he's guilty!" So I'm going back to my original suspicion day 2. I do not trust commander. I don't like the way he jumped onto the TWO wagon and I have been anything but dissuaded by his actions since.

Oh please, don't tell me we're going back to this again...

Do you ahavd someonting betther?

whoam I again? why ois no one making caseS? Speak people!

mmhh SRV is on. how peacefuld and intorspective.

-tails

[mandalorian2298]

Great news guys. I'VE GOT A THEORY! (and an appropriate link to go with it ).

So, I have been rereading the game, looking for the people who have been trying to lay low and I noticed that herk has been posting in a pretty unconcerned manner, without making any effort whatsoever to actually contribute to the discussion. Then, he has been replaced by strike wolf, which brings me to:

3 REASONS WHY STRIKE WOLF IS SCUM!

1. Rule of three. One of the common scumtells involves a member of Mafia accusing 2 non-mafia and 1 mafia players. Strike wolf did it here:

Well still rereading again but so far the people who stand out are two, commander and to a lesser extent campin.

Campin doesn't bug me too much he seemed mostly just sarcastic but possibly a bit defensive as well over an otherwise weak connection to TWO. But honestly I don't think much about his comment about stopping the joke wagon. If I had been in the game at the time I probably would have said something somewhat similar considering the speed that it developped and how many people were on that wagon. So I don't think there is much of a case there.

TWO was very defensive over that early bandwagon. I don't know two very well but gamewise it seems very odd to get that defensive that early especially when he acknowledged that it was a joke wagon.

But the person who stood out the most to me was commander. Particularly for this post:

I'm confusedzel. You say that you're worried about something happening with this bandwagon but given the pure randomness and such of this wagon I would have a hard time seeing anything coming from it that would make you claim or have you lynched. It would be put on the bandwagoners. No one would make you claim for jokes. However you seem to be scared about this. I have a feeling that you're scum that's afraid of having to claim. I think if you were town you'd just be relaxed and not feel much pressure from it, but because you're so moved by it (before the bandwagon even gets that big) I have a feeling that you are scumzel. My confusing joke vote is now a real votezel.

This. You've started the joke and got a few joke votes, but suddenly started getting nervous and making explanations...

Before fircoal had posted his reasons for suspecting two commander's posts regarding TWO's wagon had appeared to be made mostly in jest. Fircoal casts some suspicion towards him and commander jumps on it and it wasn't the only time commander jumped on the wagon.

2. A townie needs to work for a win while a Mafia member needs only to survive. Thus "I'll be gone for a while, but I would like to stay in the game" definitely sounds like something a Mafia memeber would say.

This is probably going to be my last post in any mafia game for a while but vio addressed replacing me and I just thought I'd say this now before I came back to find out that I have been. I will most likely not be paying attention to any of my mafia games over the next so many days however I should be back in less than a week and would prefer not to be replaced (this goes for the Matrix mafia as well). However if Iliad feels I should be replaced than that's fine.

3. Strike wolf has been laying so low that the ants have been jumping over him. No conflicts, no accusations of individual players and a general air of mellowness that could shame Dude Lebowsky. Certainly not the type of behaviour that you would expect from a townie trying to drag the Mobsters out of shadows from which they are lurking. Also, he had only cast 1 vote, on Violet, just before the hammer fell and after much procrastinating, although he obviously knows enough about Buffy Lore to know that Spike in season 3 can't possibly be on Town's side.

Vote Strike Wolf

[Anarkistsdream]

Wow... Really well done, Mandy...

f course, if you are wrong, you'll likely be next.

Unvote
Vote: Strike Wolf

[Streaker]

Wow... Really well done, Mandy...

f course, if you are wrong, you'll likely be next.

Unvote
Vote: Strike Wolf

I like this thinking.

I'm so lost in this game, I'm hoppin' on the wagon until a better lead is found.

Vote: StrikeWolf

[strike wolf]

1. Yes I mentioned 3 people in a post. Two of whom people had already been talking about and I decided to comment on and another who I personally found suspicious. Don't know what else I can say about that.
2. yeah I was a way for a few days. Yeah I didn't want to join a game to just be replaced less than a week later. This is the first game I've played that iliad's hosted I'd like to be able to finish it.
3. All I can say about the voting thing is look at the final vote count and you might notice something. Other than that I've been trying to be a bit careful in this game. The last time I replaced I made a mistake that cost town the game. I'm trying not to repeat that mistake.

[Commander9]

I'll leave some thoughts later tonight as I'm about to head to class.

[edocsil]

I have only played with mandy a few times, but to my knowledge he is always right. The last time I failed to listen to him the town was so thoroughly annihilated it was almost embarrassing.

Vote Strike, mainly due to point 3

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Points 1 and 3 are interesting. Point 2 is invalid. I believe Strike had family issues to attend to.

3. All I can say about the voting thing is look at the final vote count and you might notice something.

That your vote wasn't counted, or invalid?

-Tails

[safariguy5]

I have only played with mandy a few times, but to my knowledge he is always right. The last time I failed to listen to him the town was so thoroughly annihilated it was almost embarrassing.

Vote Strike, mainly due to point 3

Ok, that game might have been a bit imbalanced. And mandy has lots of theories, some of which are right and some of which aren't. That said, unless someone else has a better idea, I think strike is the person of interest here.

unvote vote strike

[ga7]

While I'm happy to have a Buffy buff, Mandy's points don't even make a little theory so I'm disappointed
More seriously I find it weak, point 1 was disproved more times than there's hair in Mandy's goatie, point 2 was well explained, so there is point 3 left that makes sense. However seeing as Spike was a weirdass third party I don't find it that incriminating...
But enough criticism, I'll try and find a case tomorrow, don't have much reads on this game so far

[strike wolf]

Well seeing as I'm at l-3 and I'm not sure I'll get the answer I need from iliad quickly enough so I'm gonna go ahead and name claim. I am Rupert Giles. As far as everything else my role is actually fairly limited compared to what you would suspect from a major character...and further than that I need to confirm a few things with iliad...hopefully I haven't already said too much...

[Commander9]

Well, I guess some people already summed it up for me, but the only valid of Mandy's is the 3rd one. Strike's claim seems legit (unless some can counter-claim his name claim) and most of the things he did, looks to be pro-town. All in all, I'd say we might want to unvote and find some one else to pressure.

[safariguy5]

I'll wait to see if anyone counterclaims, but that's definitely a town role.

[edocsil]

I'll wait to see if anyone counterclaims, but that's definitely a town role.

Yup, no need for abilities with a name like that. Wait for a cc, but if nothing happens we will need to find something else.