Matrix mafia Day 3 - no-one died? [Abandoned]

[edocsil]

Why not have Sax investigate me? I won't come up as scum nor will my associates. If he tracks me like he says he can he will find I have no night action

Or you could refrain from using it tonight

However, even bigger worry is that I am not sure how trust-worthy Sax will be after this night.

I could, but my goonies would still come up scum if I was.

[Commander9]

I could, but my goonies would still come up scum if I was.

But you said to investigate you and if you're GF (which would be the only role for scum for you), you'd come innocent. You told Sax to investigate you, not your goonies...

Dude, I almost bought when you said it at the start, but the more you talk and the more I think, I get a feeling that you could have slightly altered your role when you claimed

[Commander9]

Vote count would be really sweet...

[Commander9]

If I am correct, he's at L-2.

[edocsil]

Why not have Sax investigate me? I won't come up as scum nor will my associates. If he tracks me like he says he can he will find I have no night action

[Commander9]

Why not have Sax investigate me? I won't come up as scum nor will my associates. If he tracks me like he says he can he will find I have no night action

First of all, we don't know any of your associates (and you've just admitted having them)... Although now I am 99% sure that Safari is one of your so called associates. And again, if you're the GF, of course you will come innocent and you can just not do a kill for a night. Would be an easy solution for a problem, wouldn't it?

[edocsil]

Why not have Sax investigate me? I won't come up as scum nor will my associates. If he tracks me like he says he can he will find I have no night action

First of all, we don't know any of your associates (and you've just admitted having them)... Although now I am 99% sure that Safari is one of your so called associates. And again, if you're the GF, of course you will come innocent and you can just not do a kill for a night. Would be an easy solution for a problem, wouldn't it?

Nope not Saf. Fircoal is though. I think he is the Trainman, but I cannot be sure, as I know none of the roles of those associated with me.

[Commander9]

I don't really buy it now, although you may know the train man and he is possibly not associated with you. However, due to us being pretty much the only ones who are talking in the last 2 pages, I'm getting slightly agitated. Eh, oh well, Night 1, here we come.

[aage]

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1. Tailgunner
2. Edoc 7 (Freezie(=Mr. Squirrel), Flow, xuereb, Saxlad, commander, strike, haggis)
3. VioIet
4. Haggis
5. Mr. Squirrel
6. Strike Wolf
7. TheSaxlad 3 (Fircoal)
8. Commander9 1 (vioIet)
9. 00iCon
10. Flow520
11. xuereb 1 (Tails)
12. /
13. Chu
14. Safariguy5

No Lynch And The Boring End Of An Overall Not Too Boring Day 1 (Safariguy)

14 alive, 8 to lynch.
Edoc'sil is at L-1.

Deadline tomorrow. Probably late afternoon / evening.

[edocsil]

I don't really buy it now, although you may know the train man and he is possibly not associated with you. However, due to us being pretty much the only ones who are talking in the last 2 pages, I'm getting slightly agitated. Eh, oh well, Night 1, here we come.

Eh well the other that I know is my bodyguard and you won't get their identity from me, I would rather cross my fingers on the lynch.

[Fircoal]

Why not have Sax investigate me? I won't come up as scum nor will my associates. If he tracks me like he says he can he will find I have no night action

First of all, we don't know any of your associates (and you've just admitted having them)... Although now I am 99% sure that Safari is one of your so called associates. And again, if you're the GF, of course you will come innocent and you can just not do a kill for a night. Would be an easy solution for a problem, wouldn't it?

Nope not Saf. Fircoal is though. I think he is the Trainman, but I cannot be sure, as I know none of the roles of those associated with me.

This is true.

[edocsil]

Why not have Sax investigate me? I won't come up as scum nor will my associates. If he tracks me like he says he can he will find I have no night action

First of all, we don't know any of your associates (and you've just admitted having them)... Although now I am 99% sure that Safari is one of your so called associates. And again, if you're the GF, of course you will come innocent and you can just not do a kill for a night. Would be an easy solution for a problem, wouldn't it?

Nope not Saf. Fircoal is though. I think he is the Trainman, but I cannot be sure, as I know none of the roles of those associated with me.

This is true.

So then why vote for me? I had assumed that you were somehow associated with me, as in you had an easier time winning while I was alive.

[Commander9]

Eh well the other that I know is my bodyguard and you won't get their identity from me, I would rather cross my fingers on the lynch.

Bodyguard? This gets better and better - we started with you being a lonely 3rd party survivor but know you have affiliates and a bodyguard?

[edocsil]

Ok that's enough votes there guys, I still have quite a few from earlier. L-1 by my count, but the last VC was 6 pages ago so could be off.

Long story short I am the Merovingian 3rd party survior, the french guy with the unusual club. I am bulletproof as long as another lives and know the identity of another player. I have no other abilities.

I played the way I did to survive, I wanted to establish that I wasn't town to avoid recruitment as I am a program. Apparently no one realized I wouldn't be that blatant if I were scum, but w/e.

Said it right here commander, it is nothing new.

[Commander9]

Said it right here commander, it is nothing new.

You are right here, my bad. For some reason I thought that you've only said you know another one (Fir). This, however, doesn't not clear the case.

Well, your sig isn't exactly what I meant (you left out the start), but I do agree that I rate you as one of the best around here.

[safariguy5]

No, I'm not associated with edoc. I do buy that Merovingen is third party, he's an information broker after all. His minions are mentioned to be particularly hard to kill, they could present a problem to Agent Smith.

[edocsil]

No, I'm not associated with edoc. I do buy that Merovingen is third party, he's an information broker after all. His minions are mentioned to be particularly hard to kill, they could present a problem to Agent Smith.

The twins also happen to be personal enemies of smith in the movies at least. I wouldn't be surprised if they cannot be recruited do to their interesting ability to turn into a non corporeal form in the movies

[Fircoal]

Why not have Sax investigate me? I won't come up as scum nor will my associates. If he tracks me like he says he can he will find I have no night action

First of all, we don't know any of your associates (and you've just admitted having them)... Although now I am 99% sure that Safari is one of your so called associates. And again, if you're the GF, of course you will come innocent and you can just not do a kill for a night. Would be an easy solution for a problem, wouldn't it?

Nope not Saf. Fircoal is though. I think he is the Trainman, but I cannot be sure, as I know none of the roles of those associated with me.

This is true.

So then why vote for me? I had assumed that you were somehow associated with me, as in you had an easier time winning while I was alive.

Because I didn't really notice that it was you (didn't really pay attention to it) until you claimed. Then I had to check and noticed it was you.

[Mr. Squirrel]

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2. Edoc 7 (Freezie(=Mr. Squirrel), Flow, xuereb, Saxlad, commander, strike, haggis)

I'm pretty sure I unvoted earlier, but w/e. unvote

I'm sorry I've been so quiet, but school is harsh and work has been weird lately so I've had little time. Plus, juggling four mafia games is kinda difficult. Anyway, edocsil has a very strange claim but overall I believe him. Merovingian would be a 3rd party character and if his crew can somehow help against Smith then I think we should keep him around.

Edocsil, can you communicate with any of your crewmates? and how many of your crewmates are you aware of? trainman? the twins? Persephone?

[strike wolf]

Yeah Unvote it's a weird role but I don't see any way it could be anything but third party...

[edocsil]

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2. Edoc 7 (Freezie(=Mr. Squirrel), Flow, xuereb, Saxlad, commander, strike, haggis)

I'm pretty sure I unvoted earlier, but w/e. unvote

I'm sorry I've been so quiet, but school is harsh and work has been weird lately so I've had little time. Plus, juggling four mafia games is kinda difficult. Anyway, edocsil has a very strange claim but overall I believe him. Merovingian would be a 3rd party character and if his crew can somehow help against Smith then I think we should keep him around.

Edocsil, can you communicate with any of your crewmates? and how many of your crewmates are you aware of? trainman? the twins? Persephone?

Whew, was worried I was a goner there for a bit. Twins and Trainman are the only two I know. I can't talk to either and I didn't know who was who until Fir confirmed. Persephone was the one I had hoped to see actually in the game and she is not here.

[Mr. Squirrel]

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2. Edoc 7 (Freezie(=Mr. Squirrel), Flow, xuereb, Saxlad, commander, strike, haggis)

I'm pretty sure I unvoted earlier, but w/e. unvote

I'm sorry I've been so quiet, but school is harsh and work has been weird lately so I've had little time. Plus, juggling four mafia games is kinda difficult. Anyway, edocsil has a very strange claim but overall I believe him. Merovingian would be a 3rd party character and if his crew can somehow help against Smith then I think we should keep him around.

Edocsil, can you communicate with any of your crewmates? and how many of your crewmates are you aware of? trainman? the twins? Persephone?

Whew, was worried I was a goner there for a bit. Twins and Trainman are the only two I know. I can't talk to either and I didn't know who was who until Fir confirmed. Persephone was the one I had hoped to see actually in the game and she is not here.

ok. We will see how it goes from here. For some strange reason, I see this game devolving into a massclaim by day 4. We have already had a ton of people claim for day 1.
vote no lynch cuz if any more claiming happens, we are probably gonna lose some strong power roles at night.

[edocsil]

ok. We will see how it goes from here. For some strange reason, I see this game devolving into a massclaim by day 4. We have already had a ton of people claim for day 1.
vote no lynch cuz if any more claiming happens, we are probably gonna lose some strong power roles at night.

Yeh, I am just glad we didn't out a doc or something.

[safariguy5]

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2. Edoc 7 (Freezie(=Mr. Squirrel), Flow, xuereb, Saxlad, commander, strike, haggis)

I'm pretty sure I unvoted earlier, but w/e. unvote

I'm sorry I've been so quiet, but school is harsh and work has been weird lately so I've had little time. Plus, juggling four mafia games is kinda difficult. Anyway, edocsil has a very strange claim but overall I believe him. Merovingian would be a 3rd party character and if his crew can somehow help against Smith then I think we should keep him around.

Edocsil, can you communicate with any of your crewmates? and how many of your crewmates are you aware of? trainman? the twins? Persephone?

Whew, was worried I was a goner there for a bit. Twins and Trainman are the only two I know. I can't talk to either and I didn't know who was who until Fir confirmed. Persephone was the one I had hoped to see actually in the game and she is not here.

I wouldn't be surprised about that. She wasn't actually very supportive of Merovingen in Reloaded anyways.

[VioIet]

Got to admit I haven't been able to read the last few pages properly, just skimmed them(was away for the weekend).
But with the deadline and all I'll say that a lynch is almost always better than a no lynch.
vote edoc.

I'll try to read this more thoroughly by tomorrow.

WTH Haggis. You are going to vote for someone after skimming? Wouldn't only scum do that?

FOS Haggis.

Apparently no one realized I wouldn't be that blatant if I were scum, but w/e.

I did. And I tried to tell people that, but nobody really listened, as usual. I need to learn how to come up with better arguments.

2. That is complete bullshit I reckon, unless your like herk in the briasburg game and are an enabler for someone or somebody.

It is certainly possible.

I would guess the trainman has the ability to busdrive, but I really don't know. I also think he is not an ally of mine, as he is currently on my wagon...

Hmmmmmm.

Could We Be looking at a Bastard Mod? After all it is the matrix, the designer can change it anyway he wants to. Perhaps aage is a character? we kill the mod we end the game?

Don't you dare insult the mod-greatness that is aage!!

However that does sound very interesting...I really like the sound of that.

Yes the Twins are the freaky "white dudes" I am a crime syndicate and would be an awesome candidate for the leader of the mafia if the bad guys weren't the agents.

Do they really need to be called freaky? But then again, I've never seen the movie, except for 10 boring minutes of it when i was 10. I don't understand what you mean by awesome candidate for the godfather? Awesome candidate to lynch, NK, recruit, frame... ??

You could try, but I can guarantee you this is not the way the game works. I toyed with the option for a while, but decided that would screw you all over too harsh, so I abandoned the idea

I wouldn't be surprised if Fir already did it two years ago.

I also think haggis is connected to edoc in some way, but not sure yet how...

I am not sure either.

However, even bigger worry is that I am not sure how trust-worthy Sax will be after this night.

And my biggest worry is knowing that I can't trust you. At all.

First of all, we don't know any of your associates (and you've just admitted having them)... Although now I am 99% sure that Safari is one of your so called associates.

Wait a minute!! How do you know that safari is masoned with edoc?
First 00icon, then you are told not to trust edoc when he isn 't even scum, and now safari. How are you getting all of this inside information?

Something is up with commander.

Nope not Saf. Fircoal is though. I think he is the Trainman, but I cannot be sure, as I know none of the roles of those associated with me.

Fircoal!!! Now where in the world did that come from?

Wait a minute also. Didn't you just say you know the role of one person in the game, but now you say you don't know any of your associates. I do not believe that for one minute. You do know the role of at least one person- perhaps more.

I was supporting you- but that last statement has me wondering. Please do clarify.

However, due to us being pretty much the only ones who are talking in the last 2 pages, I'm getting slightly agitated.

Yeah, and I think I am more agitated that you are still alive. Maybe others will catch on soon. Also this two way convo started around 10am-2pm pst. Others are at work or busy- give them some time.

Eh well the other that I know is my bodyguard and you won't get their identity from me, I would rather cross my fingers on the lynch.

WHAT!!! You only know your bodyguard? But didn't you just say you only know one of your associates. Wouldn't bodyguard be an associate?

This is true.

Wait a minute! It is? Why would you admit it?
And then as edoc said, why would you be voting him?
If you are truly his trainman then you know he isn't scum? So why vote him?
Shouldn't your vote be on commander, or someone who you suspect is mafia?
I would vote you, but I can't unvote.

Major FOS Fircoal

Bodyguard? This gets better and better - we started with you being a lonely 3rd party survivor but know you have affiliates and a bodyguard?

As do you.

No, I'm not associated with edoc. I do buy that Merovingen is third party, he's an information broker after all. His minions are mentioned to be particularly hard to kill, they could present a problem to Agent Smith.

Isn't that a good thing? We are pretty sure that Agent Smith is the godfather, right? Or did I miss something.

Because I didn't really notice that it was you (didn't really pay attention to it) until you claimed. Then I had to check and noticed it was you.

Isn't not paying attention to the ones you vote trademark of scum.
Well at least you unvoted, and should get credit for that.

Whew, was worried I was a goner there for a bit. Twins and Trainman are the only two I know. I can't talk to either and I didn't know who was who until Fir confirmed. Persephone was the one I had hoped to see actually in the game and she is not here.

But you just said you only knew your bodyguard? I guess you learned about Fir once he claimed. Now you say you know who the twins are? How do you know she is not?

I think I am quite confused this game. Maybe one day I will watch the movie.