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by **strike wolf** on Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:49 am

So vio seems to be claiming she caught campin targetting sax and victor has apparently been roleblocked. (Mafia roleblocker? Victim of busdriven misfortune? Other scenario?) Doesn't seem likely a town roleblocker would intentionally block victor knowing what the plan for him to investigate vio was. With 2 busdrivers have to imagine a lot of night actions were redirected. In hindsight I guess it wouldn't have been a bad idea for vio to track sax to help clear up redirections but too late now..seeing that sax was a mafia bd I guess it wouldn't be far fetched to suggest that it was likely he busdrove vio in order to intentionally misdirect town. One thing I noticed is why didn't iliad counter claim sax on the bus driver issue? I did a quick search through his posts day 1 and I can't find a single argument he made against sax. Possible sibling mechanic? Other than that I need to reread more of day 1. If campin did in fact target sax than the case against him becomes more interesting (though vio still seems like she could easily be a lyncher). Sorry if I am rambling a bit I'm typing everything out as it comes to mind.

by **TA1LGUNN3R** on Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:48 am

So are we believing victor? It seems convenient to say "oh I was roleblocked" after his claim.

-Tails

by **edocsil** on Sat Dec 25, 2010 2:33 am

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:So are we believing victor? It seems convenient to say "oh I was roleblocked" after his claim.

-Tails

Convenient yes, but if you were a scum roleblocker who would you block? IDK what to do with him.

by **TA1LGUNN3R** on Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:30 am

edocsil wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:So are we believing victor? It seems convenient to say "oh I was roleblocked" after his claim.

-Tails

Convenient yes, but if you were a scum roleblocker who would you block? IDK what to do with him.

Hm point taken.

-Tails

by **strike wolf** on Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:18 am

It is convenient but yeah he is a likely target for a scum roleblocker attempting to mess with town. It's a good move and as far as victor from what I've reread of day 1 I do not think it's very likely that he and sax were linked.

by **Haggis_McMutton** on Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:39 am

I also agree that it's plausible that he was roleblocked.
I still think we need more definite info before we lynch a potential copier.

I don't suppose anyone can counterclaim being roleblocked?

by **LSU Tiger Josh** on Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:11 pm

Couple of quick thoughts from what I can remember being that I have the flu.
1.) Dead roles that are "revealed" in Fircoal games aren't always true. There was at least one game in the past that he put down something else than what they actually were when someone died.
2.) There are probably at least 2 of every role out there with both a townie and an anti-townie side to it.
3.) Just proving someone is a copier would not prove them to be pro, neutral, or anti-town. We're getting too caught up in specific roles. Actions/words are more important. With that said, I'm back to bed with some tylonol.

by **Fircoal** on Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:35 pm

POST!

by **Campin_Killer** on Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:46 pm

Dude, it's Christmas time. I'm only getting on to take my turns

by **Fircoal** on Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:53 pm

Campin_Killer wrote:Dude, it's Christmas time. I'm only getting on to take my turns

People are posting in other games, so they should be posting here

by **naxus** on Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:09 pm

Waiting for victor to explain his actions last night.

Also fir, if someone gets thier action in during the night and is then killed does the action still happen?

by **nagerous** on Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:30 pm

naxus wrote:Waiting for victor to explain his actions last night.

Also fir, if someone gets thier action in during the night and is then killed does the action still happen?

He was roleblocked.

Yes the action still happens if referring to the bus drivers.

by **Campin_Killer** on Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:10 pm

I'm not buying victor's excuse, but hell. Next night is always an option...

We are getting nowhere with this day. I'm not happy to do this, but I think a no lynch might be our best option as of now

by **VioIet** on Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:32 pm

Vote Campin. You guys already know why.

Although it is possible that I was bus driven, and I do not want to be as persistent/determined/tunnely however you call it as I was on Day 1, so if you can convince me otherwise, by all means do so.

by **Campin_Killer** on Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:37 pm

Hm?

Well let's see.

Victor won't be here to say anything besides he was roleblocked.
Nobody has anything as far as we know.
The bus drivers are dead.
And we have nothing to go off of. Maybe the next night will give us that something.
Before you pile on the votes think for a minute. Go back to the scene and look for something. Should be easy to find.

Oh. Yeah. Vote no lynch

by **naxus** on Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:24 pm

vote campin No lynch day 1 is scummy. Day 2 just makes you a target

by **strike wolf** on Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:33 pm

So you did track campin vio? And you got that he visited sax? I think campin should address why vio would suggest would claim he visited sax. I also don't trust him for wanting to go ahead and go with a no lynch today. Even with victor suggesting that he was role blocked there have been a few ideas brought forward that you haven't address particularly the one where vio is suggesting that you may have something to do with the deaths from the night before.

vote campin

by **aage** on Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:03 pm

The tracker says to have good reasons to vote for someone and that someone decides to advocate a no lynch. What could possibly be going on here?
vote campin

by **edocsil** on Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:06 pm

aage wrote:The tracker says to have good reasons to vote for someone and that someone decides to advocate a no lynch. What could possibly be going on here?
vote campin

vote campin I am #5(i think) to vote, careful not to hammer.

by **The Weird One** on Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:12 pm

aage wrote:The tracker says to have good reasons to vote for someone and that someone decides to advocate a no lynch. What could possibly be going on here?

I agree...It sounds kinda perfect. Can we get a count, Chu?

@LSU: Get well soon, and all that jazz...

@Everyone: Merry Christmas!

by **FloresDelMal** on Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:34 pm

naxus wrote:vote campin No lynch day 1 is scummy. Day 2 just makes you a target

QFT no matter how you try to rationalize it, is still the worst case scenario for town vote campin

by **Campin_Killer** on Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:01 pm

Well thanks if you just hammered.

For the record, I'm a vig/Beloved Princess. I shot saxlad last night...

by **TA1LGUNN3R** on Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:41 am

No CK you're at L-3 with 6 votes, you need 9.

Can anybody counter his claim?

-Tails

by **aage** on Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:13 am

Campin_Killer wrote:Well thanks if you just hammered.

For the record, I'm a vig/Beloved Princess. I shot saxlad last night...

Well then, great move with the no lynch.

What the hell is a beloved princess?

by **Haggis_McMutton** on Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:18 am

I believe it's a townie which, when dead, causes the next day phase to be skipped(cause we're all attending her funeral).

Anyway, as long as nobody counterclaims killing Sax, that's a pretty solid claim.

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