New Briarsburg Mafia. Town Wins! Ga7 wins the premium prize!

[aage]

Beyond all reason, aage seems to really want theherkman lynched today. (A stance that only makes sense if aage is scummy or operating on some unshared piece of information)

Voting someone only makes sense if you are operating on unshared information? lol. If that were true all games without a cop were doomed.

I think that pretty much makes my point.

[edocsil]

Edoc's agressive defense on Aage and then barely made a noise after still is strange to me..So once again I am torn to vote aage or not.

I have made a few arguments, but no one has responded, hard to have a debate with yourself.

[Victor Sullivan]

Edoc's agressive defense on Aage and then barely made a noise after still is strange to me..So once again I am torn to vote aage or not.

I have made a few arguments, but no one has responded, hard to have a debate with yourself.

I think it's possible, though. It's easy for bipolars and schizophrenics.

[ga7]

@Aage, any unshared information About THK could keep you alive so its probably in your best interests to tell us.

If there was any information concering THK's role I think it would have come up by now -.-

Lol you're so full of shit. The only information that HASN'T come out is one that would paint Herk as scum, information that you admittedly don't possess.
I think you're scum because you're usually decent, have some games under the belt, can be stubborn but to decide against all reason and logic that you want to lynch a town mason from day 1 then not ever let go, even try to fish for the other masons to come out, means either you're scum or the most retarded town player in the last 3 years. Lyncher is also possible IMO, because contrary to jester, to have a guy lynched in a 30player game can't be an easy task, especially if your assigned target has a linked role. That said I still think you're just mafia.

People, I'm not saying other leads are bad (for instance the fact that Jace is still submarining speaks for itself) but this situation is exactly the same as if there had been a bandwagon on a cop, who would then claim he investigated a townie night 1 and would rather not uncover his identity to not make him a target. All classic play so far. Then comes along a scum that says "How can we trust you?! You HAVE to reveal who you investigated! (mwahaha I want a NK target)"
In any normal game that guy would have already been lynched, buried and his grave pissed on.

I still don't see ANY argument that justifies Aage's move to uncover more masons. It's one thing to not trust Herk, it's another to not find anything wrong with this.

[FloresDelMal]

Lol even if all of us that have voted put our votes on one person, they still wouldn't be lynched.

wrong, at some point a deadline will be needed and the lynch will be reached despite the inactive's, or at least that's how i think it will happens.

(...)I agree with most people at this point, that they could both be town. A good scum wouldn't have went THAT far to get Herk's killed, and I doubt a lyncher is in this game for the same reason a jester would be : The premium prize with a 30 people game. It's not a great argument by any means, I just don't think Mr. S would have placed such a role in here for that reason.

now this argument doesnt hold water, because most mod's continue the games even after the victory of a jester or a lyncher, plus Mr. S did say that he could choose at random amongst the winners *shrugs*

@Aage, any unshared information About THK could keep you alive so its probably in your best interests to tell us.

If there was any information concering THK's role I think it would have come up by now -.-

Lol you're so full of shit. The only information that HASN'T come out is one that would paint Herk as scum, information that you admittedly don't possess.
I think you're scum because you're usually decent, have some games under the belt, can be stubborn but to decide against all reason and logic that you want to lynch a town mason from day 1 then not ever let go, even try to fish for the other masons to come out, means either you're scum or the most retarded town player in the last 3 years. Lyncher is also possible IMO, because contrary to jester, to have a guy lynched in a 30player game can't be an easy task, especially if your assigned target has a linked role. That said I still think you're just mafia. (...)
I still don't see ANY argument that justifies Aage's move to uncover more masons. It's one thing to not trust Herk, it's another to not find anything wrong with this.

now now, that is not true, i think that if you really want to hand the prize to the worst player in the last 3 years the competence will be fierce, this games have uncovered a couple of players that you should not underestimate, they could put NES to shame

that being said, i do believe that aage is better than that, and that's why my vote stays on him, thought if we reach the point of pressure where we could get a claim, if he does a convincing job i could have no problems unvoting and going after jace.

[strike wolf]

So Jace or Aage?

I have voted for Aage at the moment and will keep it that way until any new evidence comes up.
BTW,
@Aage, any unshared information About THK could keep you alive so its probably in your best interests to tell us.

How about you actually vote them for your own reasons sax. The fact that you seem to just want to follow whichever one the rest of us wants to lynch is suspicious. FOS Sax.

[TheSaxlad]

So Jace or Aage?

I have voted for Aage at the moment and will keep it that way until any new evidence comes up.
BTW,
@Aage, any unshared information About THK could keep you alive so its probably in your best interests to tell us.

How about you actually vote them for your own reasons sax. The fact that you seem to just want to follow whichever one the rest of us wants to lynch is suspicious. FOS Sax.

If there was an own notes button I would have used it. This is my own thoughts on the matter, I am voting for my own reasons, just airing my thoughts live.

[spiesr]

Aage, the more I look at it the more scummy you appear to be. Vote Aage. Unless you can come up with some reason to make your actions make sense or show that you shouldn't be lynched, I don't see much of a reason not to lynch you anymore.

If there was an own notes button I would have used it. This is my own thoughts on the matter, I am voting for my own reasons, just airing my thoughts live.

Could you elaborate on what these thoughts and reasons are?

[nagerous]

I am sorry about not posting - I have been so overwhelmed by work and a few other things the last couple of days. I'm going to try and read up and catch up this weekend so I can get involved again as I don't really want to be replaced as I enjoy playing the game but if this fails by the end of the weekend I'll ask to be replaced. Thanks!

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I would still like to hear form naxus and snes whenever they have the chance, but I've seen enough at this point from aage to get on this wagon,
Vote Aage

[aage]

People, I'm not saying other leads are bad (for instance the fact that Jace is still submarining speaks for itself) but this situation is exactly the same as if there had been a bandwagon on a cop, who would then claim he investigated a townie night 1 and would rather not uncover his identity to not make him a target. All classic play so far. Then comes along a scum that says "How can we trust you?! You HAVE to reveal who you investigated! (mwahaha I want a NK target)"
In any normal game that guy would have already been lynched, buried and his grave pissed on.

ga7, could you explain how this metaphor is translated to the actual context? None of us is a cop. I think we already stated that. Am I the scum in your metaphor? If so, then how is THM a cop? I seriously am puzzled.

[Thezzaruz]

Beyond all reason, aage seems to really want theherkman lynched today. (A stance that only makes sense if aage is scummy or operating on some unshared piece of information)

Voting someone only makes sense if you are operating on unshared information? lol. If that were true all games without a cop were doomed.

Oh come on. That's such a absurd misinterpretation of what Flow posted that it just has to be intentional. And intentionally making up absurd statements is usually a sign of desperate scum.

that being said, i do believe that aage is better than that, and that's why my vote stays on him, thought if we reach the point of pressure where we could get a claim, if he does a convincing job i could have no problems unvoting and going after jace.

Yea that's still a possibility, aage is by some margin the scummiest atm but if he suddenly started to make sense then that could change.

Lol even if all of us that have voted put our votes on one person, they still wouldn't be lynched.

Nah there was enough votes out there at the time, just that some of them didn't show in the VC for some reason. And we're still fairly early in D2 with some people more or less just showing up so I'd say that a lynch is very possible even without a deadline.

[Mr. Squirrel]

Vote Count

herk (2) - aage, violet,
sensfan (1) - victor
jace (5) - freezie, edocsil, stefunny, haggis, commander
aage (10) - jace, ga7, fircoal, flores, saxlad, strike wolf, iliad, flow, spiesr, /

With 28 alive, 15 to lynch

I'm assuming that the reason there has been relatively little posting lately is because of the thanksgiving holiday (for all americans). Hopefully it will pick up after the weekend. Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

[naxus]

I would still like to hear form naxus and snes whenever they have the chance, but I've seen enough at this point from aage to get on this wagon,
Vote Aage

What would you like to know from me? I posted my opinion a few pages ago and was firmly ignored. For now ill vote aage if just to force a claim

[theherkman]

VOTE Aage

Aage, you are at L-3. Claim?

[Stefunny85]

What would you like to know from me? I posted my opinion a few pages ago and was firmly ignored. For now ill vote aage if just to force a claim

VOTE Aage
Aage, you are at L-3. Claim?

I suppose I don't understand why you are trying to force a claim? I would think if he had any info to share he would have done it a few days ago when people first started asking him what was up his sleeve. I'm pretty sure if he hasn't claimed by now, he's not going to.

[theherkman]

I was thinking the same. As sure as I am that he is scum, I would like to hear at least something from him. Maybe a fake claim or something that could be used for entertainment?

[spiesr]

I suppose I don't understand why you are trying to force a claim? I would think if he had any info to share he would have done it a few days ago when people first started asking him what was up his sleeve. I'm pretty sure if he hasn't claimed by now, he's not going to.

They are probably looking for a role claim. While his role, if he isn't scum, probably doesn't provide any explanation for why he thinks herk needs to be lynched; it is possible that he could make a claim that is convincing enough that at least some people will conclude that he isn't scum but just a single minded and possibly misguided townie.

[Stefunny85]

I suppose I don't understand why you are trying to force a claim? I would think if he had any info to share he would have done it a few days ago when people first started asking him what was up his sleeve. I'm pretty sure if he hasn't claimed by now, he's not going to.

They are probably looking for a role claim. While his role, if he isn't scum, probably doesn't provide any explanation for why he thinks herk needs to be lynched; it is possible that he could make a claim that is convincing enough that at least some people will conclude that he isn't scum but just a single minded and possibly misguided townie.

I understand they are looking for a role claim, I just feel like if he was GOING to role claim he would have done it by now in his rampage against herk.

[VioIet]

Day 2 is getting long winded.
Why don't we vote for no lynch
So we can go to Night already

[Iliad]

Day 2 is getting long winded.
Why don't we vote for no lynch
So we can go to Night already

wtf?
Firstly stop abusing the sizze function, it's getting annoying.
Secondly this is the whole point of mafia, and if discussions are getting too long winded for you, you should think about playing mafia.
This screams to me that you a) do not care what the town do, or about finding scum b) have a night action you can't wait to use again.

While I doubt the bandwagon will change now, this is a huge scumtell

[Stefunny85]

Day 2 is getting long winded.
Why don't we vote for no lynch
So we can go to Night already

Excited about killing a townie or something???

[theherkman]

No kidding, Vi. Dang...

[Stefunny85]

Especially since she is urging for a no lynch?!

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I would still like to hear form naxus and snes whenever they have the chance, but I've seen enough at this point from aage to get on this wagon,
Vote Aage

What would you like to know from me? I posted my opinion a few pages ago and was firmly ignored. For now ill vote aage if just to force a claim

Skimmer! Now I'm sure you're scum!

But just to be polite I'll ask again.

I'm an innocent but torn young man, that was sent into the war in place of my older brother. I'm not sure how much else I can post, so I'll leave it at that.

Where the hell did this come from? Noone really pressured you and you have small amount of votes on you. Why say anything?

This post from early day one was a joke response to Violet asking "Blake: who are you?"
It was mistaken by many as a claim, or at the very least flavor to his role.
In hind sight knowing this happened before the first night,(therefor depending on the mod; mafia typically knowing each others names, but not knowing each other's roles) I am curious as to why you reacted so strongly to him posting this "information"?