New Briarsburg Mafia. Town Wins! Ga7 wins the premium prize!

[karelpietertje]

Great night, from the looks of it!

FoS aage It seems like the obvious way dumb mafia would act. It would be a vote if not for the 'too obvious' part.
FoS Jace,
FoS theherkman You are basically claiming you are in a pro-town group that can identify scum, track it down, kill it, and that you are inkillable.

I don't think that kind of supergroup can exist, nor do I feel that a member of such a group would give all that info away so easily. n00b.


I feel like herk might be a 3rd party, powerful killer.
I'm for finding out what's up with Jace.

[theherkman]

FoS theherkman You are basically claiming you are in a pro-town group that can identify scum, track it down, kill it, and that you are inkillable.

I don't think that kind of supergroup can exist, nor do I feel that a member of such a group would give all that info away so easily. n00b.


I feel like herk might be a 3rd party, powerful killer.

Let's see, what is more probable... That I can track/kill/protect/investigate/bulletproof/INSERTOTHERCOOLABILITYHERE or that different people in the group have different abilities and that together we can formulate a plan during the night on how to use our actions? Hmm?

[aage]

Guys, please. TheHerkMan claims to be part of a group, and this group is able to NK.

What more evidence do we need?

If he was town he just should've shut up.

As on the bit where I said Herk had a NK... I guess that's just as obvious to me as it is obvious to THM that I'm scum. That would make me disregard my own statement, but now that he has been spilling out all information and taking the position of an arrogant prick that claims to know-it-all and accuses me of trying to kill the guy who killed Blake, and then claims he himself doesn't have the NK action...

Seems to me that he's no the godfather but rather the a) bulletproof goon, b) some kind of investigative role or c) just a normal goon who thinks he's the best in the world. Either one could be possible, but I'm doubting the first since he claims to have a buddy who can protect.

According to my book all groups of more than 2 people that know each other to be of the same faction are always scum. Get that blindfold off your head and realise that please.

Also, Fircoal and Jace are probably on THM's team, with them all agreeing with each other and stuff. Oh, we're gonna kill another scum today, isn't it great? Aren't I the best in the world? Wouldn't it be best to just follow me blindly into everything I say because I'm the greatest mafia player of all?
Yes, that was sarcasm, THM.

vote theherkman btw.

[aage]

As for Aage, I know you did say you were dedicating this day to lynching herk but I honestly thought you would be subject to reason here.v He's appears to be a town power role of some kind with connection to other power roles. Why the hell do you want to lynch someone like that?

As a matter of fact I am subjected to reason. He appears to be a town power role, yeah, totally true. If I were scum I'd want you to think that as well. As I already said in that other post, teams of more than 2 people are always scum. Unless of course they're masons, but masons stack (get one extra every night), in which case the mason team must have started with 2 people, which seems odd to me, and I doubt Squirrel would let the mason team recruit their new member before the rest of the actions had been processed. Thus the only way I see possible is a scumteam that has a protective role (which makes sense, since I among many others believe there's multiple scum factions) and a night kill action. It doesn't really matter to me what abilities THM himself has, but reading his posts the only super weapon he seems to have is his superior brain cell. Besides, as another already said:

I don't think that kind of supergroup can exist, nor do I feel that a member of such a group would give all that info away so easily. n00b.

Exactly.

vote theherkman btw.

[aage]

Come on guys, I think I have proved myself through recent events. Please vote aage. Also, tomorrow we will need to look at was part of killing Daze. That irks me to no end.

You have no idea how much it irks me too


How many times did I have to say she was town!!!

However I find it strange that you say Dazey's death irked you- however you voted for her, said countless times that you didn't believe her and accused her of lying. You made this big fuss about being able to disprove her role- all for nothing.

Just read this when I pressed some top page button.

THM, was this "lynching the townblocker even though you didnt buy her story but yeah well still you think everyone who voted Daze should be lynched but still you voted her to"-thing part of your superplan?

[aage]

Come on guys, I think I have proved myself through recent events. Please vote aage. Also, tomorrow we will need to look at was part of killing Daze. That irks me to no end.

You have no idea how much it irks me too


How many times did I have to say she was town!!!

However I find it strange that you say Dazey's death irked you- however you voted for her, said countless times that you didn't believe her and accused her of lying. You made this big fuss about being able to disprove her role- all for nothing.

Just read this when I pressed some top page button.

THM, was this "lynching the townblocker even though you didnt buy her story but yeah well still you think everyone who voted Daze should be lynched but still you voted her to"-thing part of your superplan?

vote theherkman btw.

[nagerous]

I'd rather see herkman replaced than lynched for now.

[aage]

I'd rather see herkman replaced than lynched for now.

Me too, but messing up your role has never been a reason to replace, as far as I'm known to the unwritten rules around here. Also, the replacer would be subjected to previous behavior of TheHerkMan, and he'd have to come up with a seriously good reason for me not to go and accuse him anyway.

[ga7]

Aage, you got a PR? Or you're just being even more obsessive and monomaniac than usual?
Vote Aage and FOS Vio for the same reason. It should be obvious to anyone Herk is town and unfortunately the spokesman for his group seemingly, and was a likely target for scum although a number of other things could have happened. To try to push another opinion at this point is scummy, especially since it seems town has a large paved way to get rid of scum if there's mason groups, hopefully extensible. If it started as a group with more than one it's most likely of stable size however. It can be many options either way so your argument holds no water.
I'd like to put a leash on this though, Herk you're getting overexcited and paranoid again. Don't forget to use logic

Ok did a brief search through blake's posts from day 1 and some posts revolving around blake from day 1. Some actions he made that connect him to other players:

1. FOS'd vio on multiple ocasions.
2. Voted Freezie twice.
3. Tried to throw attention back on herk when the Herk wagon was dying which gained some ire from herk.

Most of it was distancing himself from other people however one post he does seems to connect him at all with any other players (Jace):

yeah, I agree. Herk has been FOS anyone who accuses him of anything and saying they've been skimming. As well as bringing unneeded info from mafiascum wiki which confused the hell out of a lot of people, so unvote vote herk

Just trying to hop onto the newest shiniest bandwagon and present a facade of a contribution? FOS Jace...

FOS spiesr, you've been judging everyone, and it seems like you're trying to throw around suspicion, maybe to keep it off of yourself?

It seems Blake was trying to throw attention away from a potential scum buddy. Adding that to the fact that Jace and Blake had similar voting patterns through much of the game (both voted Daze at least twice, both voted herk, both voted Lala) I think there is a good chance that Jace and Blake are connected. vote jace

so it seems like I'm being accused because I happened to vote very similarly to blake. That seems like a weak reason to me. Yeah I voted daze yesterday, but so did a lot of other people. And like I stated when I voted lala, that was more of a prod to get her to play. Don't know why blake voted her as well. I did eventually switch back to daze, but the main reason for that was because of the deadline and because I didn't completely buy her story at the time(and neither did a lot of other people at the time) For a while I had planned on doing prod votes, but like I said, the deadline changed my plans. From what I've seen so far today, vote aage for trying to get everyone to vote off herk.

I find Strike Wolf's argument the best one so far, although it's hard to really go for it because it concerns the dead scum's behaviour and not Jace's, who can only defend his pattern. Nevertheless it's a link, and might be a good lead.

I'd rather see herkman replaced than lynched for now.

The f*ck are you on about man? You've been largely absent on the debates and are skimming big time. FOS Nag

[theherkman]

Aage, I understand you are upset because we thwarted your mafia kill. Sorry, but we as town want to win. And you have now voted me 6 times. Like I said before, we get the picture.

[aage]

Aage, I understand you are upset because we thwarted your mafia kill. Sorry, but we as town want to win. And you have now voted me 6 times. Like I said before, we get the picture.

LMFAO, again. I'm mafia because I don't buy your claim of "oh we're a supergroup and he and he and he and he is mafia"? Or am I mafia because I try to get the person lynched I most defenitely think to be scum? Or am I mafia just because OMGIS? Shut up for once, please. It looks like that lonely superior braincell is also malfunctioning.

Also, it does not at all seem like "we" are getting the picture. You're not the killing role, you're not the protective role, and the only reason for me to believe those two even exist would be trusting your word. Sorry, but I simply am unable to do that. The only reason I can be sure of this kind of group existing is a corpse with a name tag on it. In this case the best way to get that corpse would be to kill you. If you're right (which I doubt) and the scum tried to target you, a) they're a bunch of idiots and b) you shouldn't have mentioned that. Everything you post here is for scum less stuff to find out, even if it's information you think to be unimportant.

Aage, you got a PR? Or you're just being even more obsessive and monomaniac than usual?

No PR, just trying to make my point. Also, I said I'd do anything to get THM lynched today and I see no reason to break that promise. If THM is town and he thinks he's got the scum all figured out, he's sorely wrong and he'll find out soon enough.

[aage]

I'd like to put a leash on this though, Herk you're getting overexcited and paranoid again. Don't forget to use logic

Huh, what do you mean? When did he stop?

[theherkman]

You are only confirming my suspicion with every word you post...

[ga7]

During night?
If it's not a PR I think voting him 500 times doesn't help your point at all
I don't understand your dead set approach, in fact I'm a bit worried that there could be an explanation that makes you both town and that means you're insane. Won't say more for now...

[aage]

You are only confirming my suspicion with every word you post...

Answer the question.

[theherkman]

You are only confirming my suspicion with every word you post...

Answer the question.

Okay, I don't see one. Just a rant. And Ga7, I'm not sure he is an insane cop, I think he might be insane though. Oh, BTW if a doc heals an insane cop does he become sane?

[aage]

This question:

I'm mafia because I don't buy your claim of "oh we're a supergroup and he and he and he and he is mafia"? Or am I mafia because I try to get the person lynched I most defenitely think to be scum? Or am I mafia just because OMGIS?

The only argument you give for lynching me is OMGUS. The only defence you give against me is OMGUS. Seriously, start playing the game already.

[theherkman]

Yes, Jace is suspicious, but for now i will still urge you all to vote theherkman. This dude has been referring to having night kill actions ALL NIGHT, not to mention his pretty. odd behavior yesterday (as in, during D1). If he's the vig, we're better off without him. If he's some other killing role, he should die. Now.

vote theherkman btw.

I have NEVER referred to having night actions. EVEN IF I DO, why should I die? If I do, and I did kill Blake, why do you want me to die if I am cleaning up scum? Now I am not sure about voting Jace, but I am pretty damn sure about voting you...

Oh, next to the road, THM's post might also have referred to being a PGO. Which in that case would probably be strange, since no-one else died and at least some people must have targeted THM. And aside of that it might also be a role he got from mafia wiki and thought "oh hey thats an awesome fakeclaim".

vote theherkman btw.


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Please explain to me how you know that TheHerkMan killed that dead scumguy? Slipup?

Firstly, I don't know what a PGO is. Little help anyone? Secondly, You have now voted me in all 3 of your last posts. We get it. Thirdly, / didn't say I killed Blake, YOU DID!

So, with this information, I am going to VOTE AAGE and hope that people would follow my lead like they should have with Blake. Seriously guys, can you go with me on this one? He has voted me both before and after my claim. He kept his vote on me when everyone else UNVOTED. Now, he thinks I killed scum and wants to kill me. DESPITE my roleclaim on D1. Please, see this as what it is and let's get a solid scum lynch today.

Here is why. You still haven't answered my questions.

[theherkman]

If you really want to know why I am voting you, then answer these questions:

1. You think I killed scum, so why do you want me to die?
2. You will believe that I am a townie power role once I die and you see it from Mr. S?
3. Do you think the above logic will lead to a town win?
4. You voted me on D1 even after I claimed. Everyone else unvoted me, why didn't you?
5. You are trying to start a bandwagon on a townie power role. Why?

The answer to why I am voting you lies in these questions. There you go.

[ga7]

You are only confirming my suspicion with every word you post...

Answer the question.

Okay, I don't see one. Just a rant. And Ga7, I'm not sure he is an insane cop, I think he might be insane though. Oh, BTW if a doc heals an insane cop does he become sane?

Nope, besides insane cop is useful contrary to a random cop, since the insane cop just get opposite result, once he figures it out he can use his results normally.
PGO is paranoid gun owner, kills whoever targets him. I hope Mr S didn't put one here though as it'd be like the single role more or less assured to be there at endgame Though there's versions of that role that just kill their attacker and die like a bomb. It can be a pretty dangerous role town-wise since it can kill whoever makes an action on him.

Anyway, I'd like to see if Aage has a real motive other than insane paranoïa because he's starting to look like a lyncher...

[theherkman]

Oh shit... f*ck... PGO kills anyone who targets him/her at night?

And I do think he is a lyncher. I don't need to reread his posts to know he jumped on my bandwagon, left his vote, and only switched it to vote another townie (Daze). Now he is back on the only person that he is sure is a PR townie.

[theherkman]

So far you have asked if he has a PR or if he is a PGO. But really I think he just has one massive BM on its way and that is why he has been posting like this...

[Fircoal]

Aage, I understand you are upset because we thwarted your mafia kill. Sorry, but we as town want to win. And you have now voted me 6 times. Like I said before, we get the picture.

LMFAO, again. I'm mafia because I don't buy your claim of "oh we're a supergroup and he and he and he and he is mafia"? Or am I mafia because I try to get the person lynched I most defenitely think to be scum? Or am I mafia just because OMGIS? Shut up for once, please. It looks like that lonely superior braincell is also malfunctioning.

Also, it does not at all seem like "we" are getting the picture. You're not the killing role, you're not the protective role, and the only reason for me to believe those two even exist would be trusting your word. Sorry, but I simply am unable to do that. The only reason I can be sure of this kind of group existing is a corpse with a name tag on it. In this case the best way to get that corpse would be to kill you. If you're right (which I doubt) and the scum tried to target you, a) they're a bunch of idiots and b) you shouldn't have mentioned that. Everything you post here is for scum less stuff to find out, even if it's information you think to be unimportant.

Aage, you got a PR? Or you're just being even more obsessive and monomaniac than usual?

No PR, just trying to make my point. Also, I said I'd do anything to get THM lynched today and I see no reason to break that promise. If THM is town and he thinks he's got the scum all figured out, he's sorely wrong and he'll find out soon enough.

You're mafia because the only other explanation for this is that you were dropped on your head repeatedly as a baby but still I don't think it's possible for someone to be SO DUMB.

Vote: Aage

I don't think I need to say why you need to be lynched, it's already been shown and said. You are a big detraction from the town and I'd love to see nothing more than your scummy butt lynched.

[theherkman]

You're mafia because the only other explanation for this is that you were dropped on your head repeatedly as a baby but still I don't think it's possible for someone to be SO DUMB.

Vote: Aage

I don't think I need to say why you need to be lynched, it's already been shown and said. You are a big detraction from the town and I'd love to see nothing more than your scummy butt lynched.

Fircoal, you are seriously the shit. I laughed so hard I actually cried reading this... OMFG, man... f*ck! Lol!

[aage]

If you really want to know why I am voting you, then answer these questions:

1. You think I killed scum, so why do you want me to die? I don't think you did.
2. You will believe that I am a townie power role once I die and you see it from Mr. S? Getting your role confirmed by Mr. S is indeed the only way I will be certain of the alignment of you and your... "group". Does that answer your question?
3. Do you think the above logic will lead to a town win? Depends on whose logic. I think my logic will lead to a town win. I think your logic will lead to lynching everyone who even dares lifting a finger against your thoughts, and since scum in that situation would never question you it would not lead to a town win.
4. You voted me on D1 even after I claimed. Everyone else unvoted me, why didn't you? I don't think I didn't unvote. I might not have unvoted immediately, but that's because it doesn't matter if there's 1 vote on you or 0. To everyone except you, that is, and that very fact leads me to believe that you're so darn afraid of a lynch you'll do anything to stop people from voting you. That either is proof of a very bad player or a mafia dude. I know I should've chosen the first, but then you still can be mafia.
5. You are trying to start a bandwagon on a townie power role. Why? because it's only you saying you're a towny power role. I haven't seen anyone confirming this, nor can I figure that out since I am not a cop. Since I don't see why I should believe you and have very good reasons not to believe you, I think the case is closed there.

Strange how I'm being the lyncher and THM isn't. Secondly it's funny how I'm being the detraction from the town and THM, who has been messing up more than his own role (if it even is his own role) isn't.

The answer to why I am voting you lies in these questions. There you go.

If that's true then it is indeed an OMGUS. Thanks for the info.

And I do think he is a lyncher. I don't need to reread his posts to know he jumped on my bandwagon, left his vote, and only switched it to vote another townie (Daze). Now he is back on the only person that he is sure is a PR townie.

Get your abbreviations right. If you're a PR towny I would be very interested in your PR.
Also, the red part is fucking bullshit. Loads of people voted for you, then switched to Daze. Some even lingered on Sensfan, who might also be a towny. Empty words, my friend, empty words.


So, once again, get me an argument for my scumminess, other than "he doesnt believe my claim, OMGUS". Of course, now there is another argument which is "ohhh he's a lyncher and he wants THM to die, oh noez what to do except lynch him?!?", which is opposed to the previous argument actually a valid one. Yes, I'm trying to get THM lynched. I thought I already said that. Like, 10.000 times. I even announced yesterday that I would only be posting things to try and get THM lynched.