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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:53 pm

hm...I wonder what is gonna happen. If the Islamic side has lost their leader (godfather?), will his abilities pass on? However Jace was lynched. Is there perhaps more Islamic forces? Obviously that's not the end of the Islamic forces or the 3rd Crusade is over. Perhaps the English and French forces turn on each other?

And I wonder if / had been targeted, or the person he was protecting was?

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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby naxus on Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:57 pm

Youd think the english and french forces were allied or at least not enemies but who knows
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby TheSaxlad on Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:34 pm

My Mysterious Powers Shall Be Revealed.

Ok Basically. Im a Doc, for the English Army. But I worked in the holy land so had the chance to investigate one person.

Oh and by the way referring to my last post, I said victor was scum cause thats who i looked at and was he? yes. So now I have claimed if anyone would like to protect me cause imma get killed next round that would be nice.

Oh and i can't investigate again, only protect.
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:40 pm

TheSaxlad wrote:My Mysterious Powers Shall Be Revealed.

Ok Basically. Im a Doc, for the English Army. But I worked in the holy land so had the chance to investigate one person.

Oh and by the way referring to my last post, I said victor was scum cause thats who i looked at and was he? yes. So now I have claimed if anyone would like to protect me cause imma get killed next round that would be nice.

Oh and i can't investigate again, only protect.


So the thing about tails was a lie? You don't actually know his alignment?
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby TheSaxlad on Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:43 pm

Oh I know his alignment alright. Patient Doctor, Edoc being edoc I suppose.

However I would not like to disclose it this early otherwise We would be on the hitlist for tonight.

Saying that we probably are. However in a couple of Turns tails will be fighting fit. So if anyone would care to protect me and ill him and then we can all be happy when he gets his full power.

Saying that i am taking a mighty risk here, so if anyone could uphold my risk. thanks.
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:51 pm

TheSaxlad wrote:Oh I know his alignment alright. Patient Doctor, Edoc being edoc I suppose.

However I would not like to disclose it this early otherwise We would be on the hitlist for tonight.

Saying that we probably are. However in a couple of Turns tails will be fighting fit. So if anyone would care to protect me and ill him and then we can all be happy when he gets his full power.

Saying that i am taking a mighty risk here, so if anyone could uphold my risk. thanks.


Ok, you lost me again.

You are a doctor and could make one investigation pre-game. You used that investigation on Victor. Correct?

So how do you know tails alignment? And for that matter, what is a patient doctor?(he becomes a doctor after a certain number of days?).

If what i said above is true, then yes, this was a big risk, and very unusual ...
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby TheSaxlad on Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:57 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
TheSaxlad wrote:Oh I know his alignment alright. Patient Doctor, Edoc being edoc I suppose.

However I would not like to disclose it this early otherwise We would be on the hitlist for tonight.

Saying that we probably are. However in a couple of Turns tails will be fighting fit. So if anyone would care to protect me and ill him and then we can all be happy when he gets his full power.

Saying that i am taking a mighty risk here, so if anyone could uphold my risk. thanks.


Ok, you lost me again.

You are a doctor and could make one investigation pre-game. You used that investigation on Victor. Correct?

So how do you know tails alignment? And for that matter, what is a patient doctor?(he becomes a doctor after a certain number of days?).

If what i said above is true, then yes, this was a big risk, and very unusual ...


A. Correct
B. Me=Doc. Tails=Patient, who after 3 nights of protection from me gains a power unbeknownst to me and tails till he gains it.
C. A big risk, but It was worth it and we have 2 islamiscists gone and us very much alive. for now.

Oh Haggis, How do we know you're not going to kill us now?
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:06 pm

TheSaxlad wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
TheSaxlad wrote:Oh I know his alignment alright. Patient Doctor, Edoc being edoc I suppose.

However I would not like to disclose it this early otherwise We would be on the hitlist for tonight.

Saying that we probably are. However in a couple of Turns tails will be fighting fit. So if anyone would care to protect me and ill him and then we can all be happy when he gets his full power.

Saying that i am taking a mighty risk here, so if anyone could uphold my risk. thanks.


Ok, you lost me again.

You are a doctor and could make one investigation pre-game. You used that investigation on Victor. Correct?

So how do you know tails alignment? And for that matter, what is a patient doctor?(he becomes a doctor after a certain number of days?).

If what i said above is true, then yes, this was a big risk, and very unusual ...


A. Correct
B. Me=Doc. Tails=Patient, who after 3 nights of protection from me gains a power unbeknownst to me and tails till he gains it.
C. A big risk, but It was worth it and we have 2 islamiscists gone and us very much alive. for now.

Oh Haggis, How do we know you're not going to kill us now?


What are you trying to get me to claim too? No, i don't claim out of the blue like that.

And i really don't understand why you claimed so easily. I mean sure, i asked, but you kept mentioning you'd claim in day 2. I mean you could have at least waited till there was some actual pressure on you. Doctor is one of the worst roles to claim(if you're telling the truth). Who the hell knows if there's another doctor out there to protect you ...
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:11 pm

um wtf? Way to throw me under the bus w/ you. I mean I appreciate your help w/ the lynch yesterday, but you've pretty much sealed our fates tonight, or the one after that.

Saxlad wrote:gains a power unbeknownst to me and tails till he gains it.


I've no idea about this.

In a game this size I doubt there's another doc role to protect you Sax.

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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby Commander9 on Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:58 pm

Am I the only one who's not completely convinced by Saxlad? It kind of seems like he went a bit too easy and is trying to divert attention from himself. I would really this to be explained in a bit different words as this doesn't make whole lot sense to me personally?
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby VioIet on Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:07 pm

No, you are not the only one.
Sax...lad, something is just not quite adding up.
First off, I've never heard of a doctor who could investigate.
Second off, I've never heard of a doctor who knows his patient beforehand.
What you are describing sounds more like a bodyguard then a doctor.
And if you are a bodyguard- I've never heard of a bodyguard who can investigate.

I'm wondering if you win conditions for the game just somehow got ruined. And you are just letting loose right now. That's what it seems like- because otherwise- why would you claim like this?

Now that Jace is gone, my vote returns to the original person.

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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby naxus on Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:36 pm

Vote Haggis
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby Commander9 on Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:45 pm

naxus wrote:Vote Haggis


Would love to hear the reasoning? So far, I haven't spotted anything that would suggest he's too scummy? Am I missing something? (btw, this is NOT Briar, if you're confusing the two :lol: )
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby naxus on Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:05 am

I have a investigative role. I choose to look at haggis and got back that he is part of the Islamic Army. Seeing how big this game is he should be one of the last of that group.
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby TheSaxlad on Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:05 am

In that case, what can we hope to do? lets get rid of the islamic armies.

unvotevote haggis

oh and i would bet my left nut naxus is telling the truth cause haggis went all really defensive after I callled him out on his role.
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:47 am

TheSaxlad wrote:In that case, what can we hope to do? lets get rid of the islamic armies.

unvotevote haggis

oh and i would bet my left nut naxus is telling the truth cause haggis went all really defensive after I callled him out on his role.


Hahaha.

No, mate i didn't go defensive. I stated a fact that every decent player knows. NEVER CLAIM UNLESS YOU HAVE TO.

Now, you either are a really terrible player and have sunk 2 power roles for no reason. Or you are lieing and naxus there decided he didn't like how the suspicion was pilling up on you.

So, how bad a player are you?
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby Thezzaruz on Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:54 am

I'm tempted to follow the claimed investigation but I'll hold off for a little while to allow Haggis to try a defence. And something a little more persuasive than an OMGUS would be preferable. :D


TA1LGUNN3R wrote:And I wonder if / had been targeted, or the person he was protecting was?

Going by the scene it seems that he was protecting someone. Of course that isn't conclusive proof but usually it's a fair indicator.
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:05 am

Thezzaruz wrote:I'm tempted to follow the claimed investigation but I'll hold off for a little while to allow Haggis to try a defence. And something a little more persuasive than an OMGUS would be preferable. :D



Huh, you think the previous post was an OMGUS?

Put yourself in the situation of a doctor with a patient who knows Victor is scum. Can you think of a better way of playing than saying day 1, hey guys, trust me, I investigated Victor and he's scum, I'll tell you the rest tomorrow. And then the next day, without any pressure going. "Oh, yeah, I'm a doctor, tails is my patient, in a few days he's going to get a super awesome power. Let's hope we both survive *wink* *wink*"

Seriously, WTF? Like i said, he's either a REALLY terrible player, or something else is going on here.
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Re: Crusades Mafia N1!

Postby aage on Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:55 am

Hmm, apparently i was so tired yesterday that i thought this was Iliad being dead :P
edocsil wrote:/ (English Bodygaurd) has been killed


Anyway, I see we have a claimed doctor who can investigate and who is the second of the English army. How unoriginal, is there also people who are not part of the English army, like TheSaxLad? Or the Islamic army, like Haggis?

I think I'll buy SaxLad's claim, but I find the one-shot-investigation strange.

Oh, and vote Haggis_McMutton. Byebye scum.

FoS Tezzaruz. If not for skimming, then it certainly is for not following the claimed cop and ignoring the fact that his scum buddy has been investigated.


Lastly, I WANT MOVEMENT!!! There's a whole bunch of players and pokemons not posting. Iliad, you pm'd Edocsil but you didn't post anything, now might be the time? Fircoal, you're just.. not doing anything. Why?
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:02 am

...

There's no scum and town. This is a faction game.
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby aage on Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:40 pm

Yet I aspire to kill all muslims. I'm Dutch, can I be blamed? :P

Anyway, I think it's pretty definitive that we should just lynch the third Islamic bloke. I'm not buying the faction stuff until I see at least three other muslims standing up. And if that be the case, I'd like to kill them all anyway, so suit yourself whatever you do.
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby VioIet on Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:38 am

Haggis, I understand you are defending yourself, however you really don't need to call him a terrible player. I'm sure you can think of something a bit nicer to say.

For instance- maybe that is not a good idea- why are you making yourself a target... you know things like that.
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Re: Crusades Mafia D2!

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:35 am

VioIet wrote:Haggis, I understand you are defending yourself, however you really don't need to call him a terrible player. I'm sure you can think of something a bit nicer to say.

For instance- maybe that is not a good idea- why are you making yourself a target... you know things like that.


It's online mafia. I am not overly worried about being "nice".
Moreover, i didn't say he's a terrible player. I said he's either a terrible player, or is lying. One or the other.
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Re: Crusades Mafia D1

Postby Iliad on Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:39 am

Firstly: I exposed sax's and tails' connection all the way back in day 1, yet no-one seemed interested.
Iliad wrote:
TheSaxlad wrote:Following on from my last post I had a chance to search someone before the game started, one of edocs twists i spose, and i wanted a scum tell so I searched tails.

His motives are for the town. Not against.

This is my reasoning, plus VioIet seems to be wanting tails off pretty bad, perhaps she got what i did as a scum?

Im not a raving loony trust me on this one.

For this I want to vote you, but I'll leave my vote on tails.

There is no town. There are different factions, there would be some indifferent survivors and some mafia(s). However there is no town. Not only does your claim sound paper thin, it seems like tails is on your faction and you just want to protect him from a lynch.

I'm not too sure whether you're actually in a selfish faction that needs to take down everyone else but I'm damn suspicious of you now.

Also the moment a vote appeared on another person you took the opportunity to hop on the wagon and hope the lynch lands on jace, instead of your teammate tails.
TheSaxlad wrote:unvote vote jace22

for reasons above, and we need a kill.


In short, explain how you and tails are connected.

Secondly: There close to absolutely no chance that sax is being completely honest. For one thing him and tails are almost certainly on the same faction, perhaps a third one: French or something. Also notice how tails has been trying to deny what sax is saying and distancing himself.

Thirdly: that thing about having a one shot investigation is also a lie. He just so happens to investigate someone who is part of Islam, is happy that another person in the islam faction was killed and is another pushing for probably the lynch of the last person in the islamic faction?
f*ck off, we've got someone who wants to eradicate the Muslims.
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aage wrote:Yet I aspire to kill all muslims. I'm Dutch, can I be blamed? :P

Anyway, I think it's pretty definitive that we should just lynch the third Islamic bloke. I'm not buying the faction stuff until I see at least three other muslims standing up. And if that be the case, I'd like to kill them all anyway, so suit yourself whatever you do.

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A. Correct
B. Me=Doc. Tails=Patient, who after 3 nights of protection from me gains a power unbeknownst to me and tails till he gains it.
C. A big risk, but It was worth it and we have 2 islamiscists gone and

Fourthly: You wanna get rid of him: use you own night kill and don't waste the town's time. The islamic faction is the weakest right now and the least threat to us. However Saxlad, tails and possibly aage are completely unhindered

Fifthly: I'm willing to bet that Saxlad is a bodyguard, like /, and therefore part of a faction. I'm not sure yet what a third faction would be, could be French could be Spanish, the Spanish sure did hate them some Muslims.

In short: Sax lad is part of a powerful scum group, unlike the almost gone islamic faction, and it needs to be weakened

Vote saxlad I love mafia. :D
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Re: Crusades Mafia D1

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:02 am

Iliad wrote:Firstly: I exposed sax's and tails' connection all the way back in day 1, yet no-one seemed interested.
Iliad wrote:
TheSaxlad wrote:Following on from my last post I had a chance to search someone before the game started, one of edocs twists i spose, and i wanted a scum tell so I searched tails.

His motives are for the town. Not against.

This is my reasoning, plus VioIet seems to be wanting tails off pretty bad, perhaps she got what i did as a scum?

Im not a raving loony trust me on this one.

For this I want to vote you, but I'll leave my vote on tails.

There is no town. There are different factions, there would be some indifferent survivors and some mafia(s). However there is no town. Not only does your claim sound paper thin, it seems like tails is on your faction and you just want to protect him from a lynch.

I'm not too sure whether you're actually in a selfish faction that needs to take down everyone else but I'm damn suspicious of you now.

Also the moment a vote appeared on another person you took the opportunity to hop on the wagon and hope the lynch lands on jace, instead of your teammate tails.
TheSaxlad wrote:unvote vote jace22

for reasons above, and we need a kill.


In short, explain how you and tails are connected.

Secondly: There close to absolutely no chance that sax is being completely honest. For one thing him and tails are almost certainly on the same faction, perhaps a third one: French or something. Also notice how tails has been trying to deny what sax is saying and distancing himself.

Thirdly: that thing about having a one shot investigation is also a lie. He just so happens to investigate someone who is part of Islam, is happy that another person in the islam faction was killed and is another pushing for probably the lynch of the last person in the islamic faction?
f*ck off, we've got someone who wants to eradicate the Muslims.
kinda like
aage wrote:Yet I aspire to kill all muslims. I'm Dutch, can I be blamed? :P

Anyway, I think it's pretty definitive that we should just lynch the third Islamic bloke. I'm not buying the faction stuff until I see at least three other muslims standing up. And if that be the case, I'd like to kill them all anyway, so suit yourself whatever you do.

TheSaxlad wrote:

A. Correct
B. Me=Doc. Tails=Patient, who after 3 nights of protection from me gains a power unbeknownst to me and tails till he gains it.
C. A big risk, but It was worth it and we have 2 islamiscists gone and

Fourthly: You wanna get rid of him: use you own night kill and don't waste the town's time. The islamic faction is the weakest right now and the least threat to us. However Saxlad, tails and possibly aage are completely unhindered

Fifthly: I'm willing to bet that Saxlad is a bodyguard, like /, and therefore part of a faction. I'm not sure yet what a third faction would be, could be French could be Spanish, the Spanish sure did hate them some Muslims.

In short: Sax lad is part of a powerful scum group, unlike the almost gone islamic faction, and it needs to be weakened

Vote saxlad I love mafia. :D


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Damn

I was just waiting for some more people to vote me, maybe get some more info, and then i was going to post something very similar to this. I actually had it already written but it's kind of redundant now.

But yeah, the gist was. Islamic faction is certainly the weakest right now. And english faction is still significantly worse off than the third(french I'm thinking).
In a 3 player game, do you know what happens if the two weakest guys fight between themselves? Yeah the strongest guy just sweeps the survivor and wins.

Islamic faction is no threat right now, so maybe you shouldn't waste time and weaken yourselves more by focusing on eliminating a non-threat.
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