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by **theherkman** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:27 pm

When someone dies do we find out what role they had?

by **spiesr** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:55 pm

theherkman wrote:When someone dies do we find out what role they had?

Under normal circumstances, yes. The characters name and role is normally revealed when they are lynched, or when day begins for those killed at night.

There are a few exceptions however. The mafia can a a specific role in their group, janitor, that can prevent the role of the person that they kill from being revealed. The pro-town role death miller appears to be scum when investigated by a cop and when it is killed it's role is shown as scum rather than death miller.

by **theherkman** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:58 pm

So... Can I safely assume you have just role claimed? Or is that a common role?

by **ga7** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:04 pm

Lol I'll try to answer to some posts of interest but dude, I don't even think I saw death miller more than once in 3 years

Herk, he didn't roleclaim, he's explaining you that generally the roles are revealed upon death, with the role-based exceptions he presented.

by **ga7** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:17 pm

spiesr wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:unvote vote ga7 for attempted assassination. That's pretty scummy.
You know, maybe ga7 took it upon himself to do some vigilante work and take out what he deemed to be a threat to the town? It doesn't have to be an attempted scum murder. Maybe it is friendly murder...

Lmao, I don't think I'm ready to become "that guy who killed his wife, oh but he was so friendly!" :lol:

Fircoal wrote:OK GUYS!!! I HAVE AN IDEA! YOU SEE WE'RE GOING TO FIND THE MOST ANNOYING PERSON AND VOTE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE VOTING AN ANNOYING COLOR AND PUT THE CONVERSATION ONTO THAT! SURE SOME PEOPLE LIKE FRENCHIE-CHAN WILL USE ACTUAL LOGIC BUT IT'LL BE GOOD ENOUGH THAT THE MOST OF US CAN RANDOMLY JUMP ON IT AND NAWT APPEAR SCUMMY. WE CAN EVEN DISTACT THE WHOLE CONVO ONTO COLORS SO NOTHING GETS NONE! ETS A BRILLANT PLAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111

While you are perfectly right in your sarcasm Chu, this post and some others make me think you're trying to stop this wagon, could be wrong tho... Also, Host much?

(trying to reduce the quoting) You're right anyway, it's only illegal to discuss the game and perfectly fine to just bug people for them to post, I do find it a weird coincidence that Violet could be the one warning her AND trying to put the heat off her in the thread too. You don't do that for friends, you do that for scumbuddies.

strike wolf wrote:I don't care what reason you have for editing. You shouldn't do something like that. quote what you said, edit the part you mean to and post it with EBWOP at the end.

QFT, since there are many new players this can't be stressed enough, never edit.

FloresDelMal wrote:now why would i do that? i know that france sucks, but that is not reason for want to die, specially not with the soldes comming

But I hadn't been near the kitchen! HAHA the plot thickens xD

theherkman wrote:So I thought about it a little and its definitely stupid that skimming is a scum tell. Then would not all mafia read everything and not skim? Then you run into the whole wine in front of me thing...

While Fircoal provided a good explanation, yes on this current example Flores was exaggerating a tad

Anyway, in summary we have a more and more marked link so it's the kind of situation where you can lynch one to be pretty sure about the other. Not a bad day 1 deal...

by **theherkman** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:24 pm

ga7 wrote:I do find it a weird coincidence that Violet could be the one warning her AND trying to put the heat off her in the thread too. You don't do that for friends, you do that for scumbuddies.

I don't agree. I just read through some past threads and whatnot and there are roles like masons and cops who have a sheriff and doctors who can all talk to each other. Why do we think she is mafia rather than one of a set of two or three cops? 'Cause if we kill her and she is then the mafia know who to night kill (the other one) . Then wouldn't we lose two cops or doctors? Or is this not a correct assumption?

by **theherkman** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:31 pm

ga7 wrote:Lol I'll try to answer to some posts of interest but dude, I don't even think I saw death miller more than once in 3 years
Herk, he didn't roleclaim, he's explaining you that generally the roles are revealed upon death, with the role-based exceptions he presented.

But what if he is mafia and he is putting this idea out there so when he is investigated and comes up scum he can point back here as a defense?

:ugeek:

by **freezie** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:38 pm

theherkman wrote:
ga7 wrote:Lol I'll try to answer to some posts of interest but dude, I don't even think I saw death miller more than once in 3 years
Herk, he didn't roleclaim, he's explaining you that generally the roles are revealed upon death, with the role-based exceptions he presented.

But what if he is mafia and he is putting this idea out there so when he is investigated and comes up scum he can point back here as a defense?

Because you asked. That's why. He explained 2 of the most known reasons how roles are revealed when people die. There is nothing scummy in that post.

Also, yes fircoal, Daze did mention ''friend'' before violet. So that heads up, coming from a friend to watch the thread, isn't in itself that scummy.

However..With so many votes on her, Daze could have posted slightly more than that for her defense.

I still don't like saxlad :S am getting bad vibes from him. But...Am ready to switch my vote to Daze if she doesn't post something of substance anytime soon.

Vote count maybe?

by **nagerous** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:41 pm

Definitely catching a lot of bad vibes from Saxlad. Also, FOS a lot of people who were sneaking votes on dazerazer just because they don't like the colour she is typing in. Granted it is damn annoying but you shouldn't bandwagon on that reasoning at least if you're going to bandwagon give a proper reason like something scummy she did rather than these subtle cheeky votes. Mod please can we have a vote count..

by **Mr. Squirrel** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:43 pm

ga7 wrote:Ah good thing you didn't replace Flores Mr S, she got sick and I kinda forgot to notify it... She should post tomorrow tho (that was a close one )

Will reread on the last random occurings...

I wouldn't replace someone without prodding them. The only reason I did so with colton is because he hasn't even opened his role pm yet. :roll:

by **Mr. Squirrel** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:02 pm

Vote Count

mandelorian (2) - fircoal, karel
commander (1) - naxus
Freezie (2) - spiesr, blake
jace (1) - nag,
naxus (1) - ace
fircoal (1) - mandy
victor (1) - pmc
AoG (2) - /, violet, dazerazer,
dazerazer (11) - victor, edocsil, ga7, saxlad, haggis, sensfan, commander, flores, jace, the herk, strikewolf
saxlad (1) - freezie
the herk (1) - AoG
ga7 (1) - TG

16 to lynch.

New Rule:
NO PMing EACH OTHER UNLESS YOU HAVE A ROLE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO!

I thought this was self explanatory but I guess not. If someone needs to be prodded, tell me and I will do so. You can even pm me if you don't want to make a public announcement. Otherwise, absolutely no pming of game related information.

by **Mr. Squirrel** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:05 pm

I'm sorry with the late vote count. I'm on every night before bed, I've just been getting busier and lazier (bad combination). I will do one every night from now on.

by **theherkman** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:09 pm

No prob, Squirrel.

So does this mean that everyone else will jump on the bandwagon and vote Daze now? Is she pretty much dead? We should hurry cause I want to know what she is. Lol!

by **strike wolf** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:14 pm

theherkman wrote:
ga7 wrote:I do find it a weird coincidence that Violet could be the one warning her AND trying to put the heat off her in the thread too. You don't do that for friends, you do that for scumbuddies.

I don't agree. I just read through some past threads and whatnot and there are roles like masons and cops who have a sheriff and doctors who can all talk to each other. Why do we think she is mafia rather than one of a set of two or three cops? 'Cause if we kill her and she is then the mafia know who to night kill (the other one) . Then wouldn't we lose two cops or doctors? Or is this not a correct assumption?

That is truethat there are town roles that know each others identities however mafia are much more common. Combine that with the fact that daze had already exhibited scummy behavior. Daze is a good target andvfinding out daze's role will point heavily towards vioIet's allegiance as well.

by **strike wolf** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:17 pm

theherkman wrote:
ga7 wrote:Lol I'll try to answer to some posts of interest but dude, I don't even think I saw death miller more than once in 3 years
Herk, he didn't roleclaim, he's explaining you that generally the roles are revealed upon death, with the role-based exceptions he presented.

But what if he is mafia and he is putting this idea out there so when he is investigated and comes up scum he can point back here as a defense?

For one thing it would be a pretty weak defense..

by **Commander9** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:18 pm

FloresDelMal wrote:the pink is annoying as hell and so is the yellow (fucking chu stop of doing that before i start to stick needles on a pikachu plushie), but the real reason she is being voted, and i think we all can agree on that, is how fishy it seems the way she was submarining just til the moment she got called on it, and then how she commented on niezsche posting but not adressing all the votes and comments directed at her, proving she was also skimming, then if you want to do some metagamming, victor hinted that is quite possible that violet is trying to cover for her scum buddy, therefor my vote stays where it is and FOS Violet

As her clanmate, I can assure you that this is not the case. She has a lot of real life problems and worries and I'm sure that this is the last thing on her mind.

theherkman wrote:That doesn't actually sound that convincing to me...

Ah, so no one can have problems in real life? Gotcha.

Just for the reference, I've voted Dazey myself, but there's another reason to it. She definitely has problems in real life (you can ask any person in the FOED clan), so please at least stop flaming if you do not know about the situation the other person is in. Also, saying that, there's my change:

Unvote. Vote TheSaxlad.

by **theherkman** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:35 pm

Commander9 wrote:
theherkman wrote:That doesn't actually sound that convincing to me...

Ah, so no one can have problems in real life? Gotcha.

Just for the reference, I've voted Dazey myself, but there's another reason to it. She definitely has problems in real life (you can ask any person in the FOED clan), so please at least stop flaming if you do not know about the situation the other person is in.

Are you shitting me? Do you seriously consider that flaming? Damn, man... You need to get out more... If she turns out scummy, deff FOS Commander9

by **theherkman** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:38 pm

You know, on second thought, upon rereading this, I think that you, violet and daze are all scum. You are defending daze and saying that I am flaming because I don't buy her excuse? This may have been the biggest scum tell of this entire game.

by **Commander9** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:48 pm

theherkman wrote:You know, on second thought, upon rereading this, I think that you, violet and daze are all scum. You are defending daze and saying that I am flaming because I don't buy her excuse? This may have been the biggest scum tell of this entire game.

Do you need the actual post from her in our forum? And besides, I've voted for both of them prior this thing. I know both of them quite well and if you're too deaf or blind to think that other people may have problems, I feel sorry for you for not having any empathy. If you honestly believe that she's a scum, please vote me out to so you'd see that I'm not in mafia and have no other reasons to say anything about it (I wasn't even defending her - I just confirmed that what she wrote was true).

by **theherkman** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:52 pm

I'm not saying that she doesn't have problems irl. This could be true, however the fact that you accused me of flaming (In her defense) seems to be a little bit of an over reaction. I just think it is suspicious that you come down so strongly on me for saying that I think this whole situation with the timing of her posts is fishy. And just because you have voted for someone doesn't mean anything, because you are obviously not voting for either of them now.

by **theherkman** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:54 pm

I could be wrong here as I am quite new at this, it just seems like you went on major defensive for a simple sentence posted (Accusations of flaming).

by **Commander9** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:57 pm

This is my 2nd mafia overall and the 1st one ended for me in day 1, so I'm not exactly all that knew either (check my post count). What is more, may you please point out where I said it was you who flamed? I'm just curious why would you think it was directed at you unless you think you actually did flame.

by **theherkman** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:34 pm

Commander9 wrote:
theherkman wrote:That doesn't actually sound that convincing to me...

Ah, so no one can have problems in real life? Gotcha.

Just for the reference, I've voted Dazey myself, but there's another reason to it. She definitely has problems in real life (you can ask any person in the FOED clan), so please at least stop flaming if you do not know about the situation the other person is in.

And the scumtell I was referring to was not Daze's IRL issues, but your defense in red.

by **theherkman** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:36 pm

You quoted me and then responded. It is a fair assumption that your response to my quoted material was directed at me.

by **TA1LGUNN3R** on Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:46 am

Ugh fucking 4 pages after I get off work, and almost nothing of value. The only ones posting w/ any sense around here were Fir and nagerous. Whatever, dazer's post color may be annoying, but major FOS on some of you for jumping on the "omg that color is the worst" BW. I'm thinking that's just an opportunity for some of you dirty scumsters to lynch someone. Not that I'm convinced that dazer is a townie, because at this point I can't say anyone is.

That being said, though, I really wish you stop posting in that color, dazer. It is extremely annoying :evil:

. But fir's yellow was worse.

Votes for her communicating w/ another player outside of the thread are more valid, but I can understand the circumstance. But Mr. Squirrel did clear this up, so now everyone knows. (see giant red text)

-Tails

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