Crusades Mafia The English and a Survior Win!

by **naxus** on Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:09 pm

was just throwing the idea out there. Usually day one is a waste of a day unless someone slips. The options i suggested are really the only two we can do minus a deadline being enforced

by **TA1LGUNN3R** on Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:00 am

I think I have to agree with naxus. An actual D1 lynch being useful is a slim possibility, unless someone were to make a huge mistake.

unvote vote no lynch

-Tails

by **Fircoal** on Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:53 am

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:I think I have to agree with naxus. An actual D1 lynch being useful is a slim possibility, unless someone were to make a huge mistake.

unvote vote no lynch

-Tails

I found a huge mistake

Unvote Vote: Tails

by **TA1LGUNN3R** on Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:12 am

Fircoal wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:I think I have to agree with naxus. An actual D1 lynch being useful is a slim possibility, unless someone were to make a huge mistake.

unvote vote no lynch

-Tails

I found a huge mistake

Unvote Vote: Tails

lulz you're grasping there buddy. That's quite the stretch.

-Tails

by **Iliad** on Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:44 am

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:I think I have to agree with naxus. An actual D1 lynch being useful is a slim possibility, unless someone were to make a huge mistake.

unvote vote no lynch

-Tails

It was about time a newbie distinguished themselves as particularly inexperienced.

unvote vote tailgunner

by **aage** on Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:10 pm

I'd rather look into Victor replacing Saxlad's vote on Iliad, although I must admit that Tailgunner is making a newb mistake there that might be a scumtell. He hasn't played that few games.

by **TheSaxlad** on Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:55 pm

/ wrote:
naxus wrote:so who should we lynch or just no lynch d1?

Most definitely lynch... or at least pressure for now, Unvote Vote Saxlad For erratic joke voting, OMGUSing and terroristing the mod into a tyranical anti-democracy

I loled at this. oh /
you do make me laff

by **VioIet** on Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:03 pm

Wait a minute Fircoal and Illiad.

Why the sudden votes on Tails? Are you voting tails for suggesting no lynch?

Because no lynch was naxus' idea.

So then if you are basing your vote purely on that, why not vote naxus then, instead of tails?

Had to be some reason why you chose tail over naxus?

by **aage** on Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:06 pm

VioIet wrote:Wait a minute Fircoal and Illiad.

Why the sudden votes on Tails? Are you voting tails for suggesting no lynch?

Because no lynch was naxus' idea.

So then if you are basing your vote purely on that, why not vote naxus then, instead of tails?

Had to be some reason why you chose tail over naxus?

They're probably voting Tails because he's agreeing w/ Naxus. He shouldn't have. It's stupid to suggest, but it's probably more stupid to agree.

by **Victor Sullivan** on Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:12 pm

aage wrote:
VioIet wrote:Wait a minute Fircoal and Illiad.

Why the sudden votes on Tails? Are you voting tails for suggesting no lynch?

Because no lynch was naxus' idea.

So then if you are basing your vote purely on that, why not vote naxus then, instead of tails?

Had to be some reason why you chose tail over naxus?

They're probably voting Tails because he's agreeing w/ Naxus. He shouldn't have. It's stupid to suggest, but it's probably more stupid to agree.

Yeah, especially since naxus didn't actually vote no lynch. Unvote vote Tails. Silly mistake, bro...

by **TA1LGUNN3R** on Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:35 pm

lol well I don't think its n00bish. What's n00bish is lynching a townie D1 because of an imagined scumtell. We have no idea how many scum vs. townies there are, so the most likely outcome of a lynch is a townie. What's scummy is Vic BW'ing.

-Tails

by **naxus** on Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:09 pm

VioIet wrote:Wait a minute Fircoal and Illiad.

Why the sudden votes on Tails? Are you voting tails for suggesting no lynch?

Because no lynch was naxus' idea.

So then if you are basing your vote purely on that, why not vote naxus then, instead of tails?

Had to be some reason why you chose tail over naxus?

No lynch wasnt my idea but i threw out the question of should we basically random lynch(As seems to be happening to tails) or agree to a no lynch(Which gets us really nowhere)

by **Fircoal** on Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:33 pm

VioIet wrote:Wait a minute Fircoal and Illiad.

Why the sudden votes on Tails? Are you voting tails for suggesting no lynch?

Because no lynch was naxus' idea.

So then if you are basing your vote purely on that, why not vote naxus then, instead of tails?

Had to be some reason why you chose tail over naxus?

It's one t hing to suggest and another to try to get it to happen.

by **Victor Sullivan** on Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:03 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:lol well I don't think its n00bish. What's n00bish is lynching a townie D1 because of an imagined scumtell. We have no idea how many scum vs. townies there are, so the most likely outcome of a lynch is a townie. What's scummy is Vic BW'ing.

-Tails

You're gonna pin that on anyone who makes the third or fourth vote. I at least made another justification for my vote. I feel like you're desperately attempting to divert attention from yourself. My vote stands.

-Sully

by **TA1LGUNN3R** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:45 am

Victor Sullivan wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:lol well I don't think its n00bish. What's n00bish is lynching a townie D1 because of an imagined scumtell. We have no idea how many scum vs. townies there are, so the most likely outcome of a lynch is a townie. What's scummy is Vic BW'ing.

-Tails

You're gonna pin that on anyone who makes the third or fourth vote. I at least made another justification for my vote. I feel like you're desperately attempting to divert attention from yourself. My vote stands.

-Sully

You didn't make any real justification for it (and this goes for anyone who votes for me because of the no lynch). You're just subscribing to the idea that a no lynch is a scumtell and poor strategy, while I'm saying it's not. The most likely outcome of a random D1 lynch is you lynch a townie, and then by D2 you have 2 townies dead, with nothing to show except for who pushed the D1 lynch the most (who are suspected scum, but really a weak lead). I'm saying that if you no lynch D1, by D2 you only have 1 dead townie, and maybe there are leads from possible cop characters.

edocsil wrote:A mafia with a twist, not just Town vs Scum

This also leads me to believe that there's a third party or cult, and so that means even fewer townies. If you have 2 dead by D2, than that's a huge blow, because members are divided across at least 3 factions.

-TG

by **VioIet** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:12 am

Fircoal wrote:
VioIet wrote:Hmmm, saxlad, thats the third time you've changed your vote within the last two pages.

Major FOS Saxlad

Only reason I'm not voting you is because I assume you read your role, unlike fircoal.

If I didn't read my role then how would I know if I was scum or town? I wouldn't. So you couldn't call me scum based off my actions

Keeping my vote on Fircoal for flawed logic.

I think this may be in particular, a third party scum lyncher tell.

First off, why would you not read your role?

Second, if you didn't read your role- why would you vote for someone, as you would really have no idea who's a townie or not. It's just an aimless vote- and you would have no idea whether it is helping to progress the gameplay or not. Also if you don't know for sure whether you are a townie or not- how could you even be motivated to help the town?

No one knows who is the mafia right now, except for the mafia of course. But at least if you know you are a townie, you automatically have some sort of motivation for helping the town and trying to find out who is mafia. Therefore, with any vote you cast- whether joking or not, it is still helping to progress the game and possibly find signs of scummish behavior from people.

So as you said, since you didn't read your role, you don't know if you are a townie. So then what is your motivation for voting? Perhaps you are really trying to deceive the town?

So you are purely acting as an independent agent right now? That just seems so serial killerish.

Still FOS sax.....lad, but at the moment i think fir is more suspicious then you. Only slightly though.

by **aage** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:01 am

VioIet, you're basing your whole argumentation on the fact that you believe that fircoal didn't read his role. What the f*ck?
unvote vote VioIet

Also, I think the "twist" in this mafia is that there's multiple town-like factions like English, French, Spanish, Italian, etcetera. We're on a crusade and I think some factions are okay with people being NK'd and other factions aren't.

by **Jace22** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:10 am

Yeah I agree with aage with this. VioIet I'm pretty sure you should assume someone knows what their role is
unvote vote VioIet.
Also, can we get a vote update

by **edocsil** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:36 am

Votes

Fircoal (1) ~ VioIet
VioIet (3) ~ Commander, Aage, Jace
Tailgunner (5) ~ Haggis McMutton, Naxus, Fircoal, Iliad, Victor
TheSaxlad (1) ~ /
Aage (1) ~ TheSaxlad
No Lynch (1) ~ Tailgunner

13 alive 7 to lynch. TG is at L-2

by **Commander9** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:54 am

Unvote. Going to see what will be happening before I make my vote again.

by **TheSaxlad** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:09 am

Guys. VioIet is scum.

unvote
vote VioIet

We need to get rid of her.
Tails is innocent, believe me. for once he is not scum.

Your making a mistake voting him off. Vote me if you have to however, VioIet is the one you should be voting.

Thanks

by **TheSaxlad** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:11 am

Following on from my last post I had a chance to search someone before the game started, one of edocs twists i spose, and i wanted a scum tell so I searched tails.

His motives are for the town. Not against.

This is my reasoning, plus VioIet seems to be wanting tails off pretty bad, perhaps she got what i did as a scum?

Im not a raving loony trust me on this one.

by **TA1LGUNN3R** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:39 am

TheSaxlad wrote:Following on from my last post I had a chance to search someone before the game started, one of edocs twists i spose, and i wanted a scum tell so I searched tails.

His motives are for the town. Not against.

This is my reasoning, plus VioIet seems to be wanting tails off pretty bad, perhaps she got what i did as a scum?

Im not a raving loony trust me on this one.

?
Violet hasn't said anything against me.

-Tails

by **Haggis_McMutton** on Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:44 am

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
TheSaxlad wrote:Following on from my last post I had a chance to search someone before the game started, one of edocs twists i spose, and i wanted a scum tell so I searched tails.

His motives are for the town. Not against.

This is my reasoning, plus VioIet seems to be wanting tails off pretty bad, perhaps she got what i did as a scum?

Im not a raving loony trust me on this one.

?
Violet hasn't said anything against me.

-Tails