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[oldrisky44]

Thanks vic, I UN FOS Victor.

[aage]

unvote for now. I don't want anyone to get trigger happy before we get all the info we can. I don't see why it'd be so hard to believe that a scum roleblocker would target cena. How is it that I'd be the liar if oldrisky is what he says? Fircoal or whoever came up with the argument could just as easily be lying. oldrisky could be lying about who he busdrove, even if he is a town busdriver. I don't see how one can trump another. It'd be foolish to lynch a witness with scum still on the loose.

You want me to explain?
The scum roleblocker simply would be an idiot to let you investigate. Thus, it'd be nothing more or less than pure logic that it's impossible for 1) you to be a cop, 2) oldrisky to be busdriver and busdrived you and cena, and 3) town to have no roleblocker. One of these three must be untrue. Since we can as much as rule out the last option, Fircoal suggests we lynch the guy who didn't claim to be a cop first, so that we have the minimum loss even in the worst case scenario.

This all is assuming you and oldrisky are telling the complete truth. If you're not, you'd still be lynched for lying, but that's another argument. For now we stick with the theory that says "the scum roleblocker blocks the claimed cop".

[oldrisky44]

...This all is assuming you and oldrisky are telling the complete truth. If you're not, you'd still be lynched for lying, but that's another argument. For now we stick with the theory that says "the scum roleblocker blocks the claimed cop".

This is where your theory falls apart. The scum roleblocker would have blocked victor. I switched victor and victor was blocked.

I have no clue why anybody would have blocked cena, that's part of the reason I picked him for the switch.

[duday53]

...This all is assuming you and oldrisky are telling the complete truth. If you're not, you'd still be lynched for lying, but that's another argument. For now we stick with the theory that says "the scum roleblocker blocks the claimed cop".

This is where your theory falls apart. The scum roleblocker would have blocked victor. I switched victor and victor was blocked.

I have no clue why anybody would have blocked cena, that's part of the reason I picked him for the switch.

I think we should set a deadline. If no role-blocker comes out by the deadline then we lynch. Sorry oldrisky.

[Fircoal]

...This all is assuming you and oldrisky are telling the complete truth. If you're not, you'd still be lynched for lying, but that's another argument. For now we stick with the theory that says "the scum roleblocker blocks the claimed cop".

This is where your theory falls apart. The scum roleblocker would have blocked victor. I switched victor and victor was blocked.

I have no clue why anybody would have blocked cena, that's part of the reason I picked him for the switch.

how does it fall apart. Likely there is a scum roleblocker that blocked victor. That means that your action couldn't have happened thusly you're scum.

If you're telling the truth, then there was no scum roleblocker and we've netted ourselfs a mafia in Victor.

[aage]

*quotes fircoal*
whatever happens, a mafia will go down.

[freezie]

NOW I get it. Ok, yea. Sorry, I butchered my logic back there.

vote: oldrisky

chance I wont be on for 48 hours, so standing my vote there. Dont hammer if a town roleblocker come out plz

[Fircoal]

Well, how long should we wait?

[Victor Sullivan]

*quotes fircoal*
whatever happens, a mafia will go down.

Really? FoS aage. You added a whopping nothing to the conversation.

[spiesr]

Well, how long should we wait?

Until we determine that the answer to the following question is no.

Is there anyone who hasn't posted since the call for the roleblocker to reveal himself went out?

I don't have time to check to see what that answer is just right now though...

[Fircoal]

Well, how long should we wait?

Until we determine that the answer to the following question is no.

Is there anyone who hasn't posted since the call for the roleblocker to reveal himself went out?

I don't have time to check to see what that answer is just right now though...

the only person that we really have to hear from is Cena.

[oldrisky44]

...how does it fall apart. Likely there is a scum roleblocker that blocked victor. ...

This is how your reasoning fails....

I switched cena and victor.

If the scum role-blocked victor it would divert to cena.

cena may or may not know HE was then role-blocked.

Since victor was blocked, someone had to have aimed the block at cena, NOT victor.

[oldrisky44]

This is my last post in defense of myself. With no tangible way to prove my claim, there is nothing more I can possibly say.

Bring it.

[Victor Sullivan]

Alright, I believe oldrisky and think we're going in the wrong direction. A town busdriver is almost as good as a doc. I think we should try someone else. I know I was the one who led the charge against oldrisky, but I also listen to reason. It seems quite probable that oldrisky is telling the truth. With that, I'd like to vote Fircoal. It seems to me you're the one that came up with the idea that oldrisky and I can't both be town. This feels scummy IMHO, and I think it's worth trying you for a roleclaim.

[oldrisky44]

unvote vote fircoal

He is on my list of scum from the start.

[aage]

The chances both of you are scum are increasing by the minute.

...how does it fall apart. Likely there is a scum roleblocker that blocked victor. ...

This is how your reasoning fails....

I switched cena and victor.

If the scum role-blocked victor it would divert to cena.

cena may or may not know HE was then role-blocked.

Since victor was blocked, someone had to have aimed the block at cena, NOT victor.

Yes. That is why Cena had to be targeted. Otherwise Victor wouldn't have gotten blocked. Since no sane mafia roleblocker would not have targeted Victor last night, Cena should have been roleblocked.

Assuming the roleblocker (if there is any) is sane, we can conclude that you cannot be a busdriver and victor a cop at the same time. This is of course assuming there is no roleblocker in the town roles, but since only Cena has not responded yet and he would not block himself, we can be very certain one of you is scum. In this case I believe even both of you are scum. Time will tell.

[aage]

Well, how long should we wait?

Until we determine that the answer to the following question is no.

Is there anyone who hasn't posted since the call for the roleblocker to reveal himself went out?

I don't have time to check to see what that answer is just right now though...

As I said, only Cena hasn't posted, and he's the one that should have been blocked for this all to be plausible. The real question is now, why didn't you vote?

[Fircoal]

Well, how long should we wait?

Until we determine that the answer to the following question is no.

Is there anyone who hasn't posted since the call for the roleblocker to reveal himself went out?

I don't have time to check to see what that answer is just right now though...

As I said, only Cena hasn't posted, and he's the one that should have been blocked for this all to be plausible. The real question is now, why didn't you vote?

Because it was late at night and I forgot that Cena was the one that had to be blocked x3 I just realized right when I got onto this page that, that was the case, and then you said it. Lol

Vote: Oldrisky

[oldrisky44]

But if cena didn't have a play that could be blocked how would he know he was blocked???

[spiesr]

But if cena didn't have a play that could be blocked how would he know he was blocked???

The reason that people being blocked has even been brought up is that victor has claimed to have been blocked. In order for him and you to both be telling the truth then a roleblocker would have had to target cena, but then have you switch it so they actually blocked victor instead. Since no town roleblocker has come forward to indicate that they targeted cena last night, we must assume that the only way victor could have been blocked is by a scum aligned role blocker. The town doesn't seem to think that a scum roleblocker would have actually targeted cena last night when victor had claimed cop. This leads the town to conclude that either victor lied about having been blocked, to cover up the fact that he really isn't a cop. Or that you have lied about being a roleblocker as a fake claim. The only way for you to both be telling the truth seems to be that the presumably scum alligned roleblocker to target cena last night.

[oldrisky44]

But if cena didn't have a play that could be blocked how would he know he was blocked???

The reason that people being blocked has even been brought up is that victor has claimed to have been blocked. In order for him and you to both be telling the truth then a roleblocker would have had to target cena, but then have you switch it so they actually blocked victor instead. Since no town roleblocker has come forward to indicate that they targeted cena last night, we must assume that the only way victor could have been blocked is by a scum aligned role blocker. The town doesn't seem to think that a scum roleblocker would have actually targeted cena last night when victor had claimed cop. This leads the town to conclude that either victor lied about having been blocked, to cover up the fact that he really isn't a cop. Or that you have lied about being a roleblocker as a fake claim. The only way for you to both be telling the truth seems to be that the presumably scum alligned roleblocker to target cena last night.

Sorry for being so slow on the up-take, now I finally understand the reasoning, and have to agree. Victor is lying.

unvote vote victor

[Victor Sullivan]

Thanks for having by back, oldrisky unvote vote oldrisky

[oldrisky44]

Yeah I knew that would be the next post LOL.

The more I think about the logic, knowing who I am, the more I agree with the others.

[oldrisky44]

My other option is voting for myself to prove my point.

Suicide is not an option.

[aage]

Thanks for having by back, oldrisky unvote vote oldrisky

Thanks. Is this a hammer?