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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby ga7 on Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:15 am

Well, after skimread I still think Strike was generally more townie in his behavior so far than Serbia, who even if he's been busy just wagonned on Naxus and only provided input on threesomes :P
Anyway don't forget person with the most votes get lynched so we do need to pick up the pace...
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby Serbia on Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:48 am

ga7 wrote:Well, after skimread I still think Strike was generally more townie in his behavior so far than Serbia, who even if he's been busy just wagonned on Naxus and only provided input on threesomes :P
Anyway don't forget person with the most votes get lynched so we do need to pick up the pace...


Exactly. And since I'm sitting here in the lead currently, I really don't want to get caught up being lynched just because people won't play.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby aage on Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:12 am

In that case we might as well just BW on Sensfan. imo he's the worst replacement for jrl that could have been found.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby ga7 on Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:14 am

Frankly I dislike this system, scum have absolutely no incentive to vote that way, they can just lay low and watch people get lynched with little voting going on. We lose the whole wagons info, and since we don't have much wagon info from the prior days already we lose a whole side of the game, making it much harder to catch scum. Adding to that I don't see many leads going on and poor activity, it's gonna be very tough.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby ga7 on Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:16 am

aage wrote:In that case we might as well just BW on Sensfan. imo he's the worst replacement for jrl that could have been found.
Unvote vote Sensfan.

Let me guess, you find the Serbia case also "baseless" so find it much more appropriate to do a random wagon on someone who just replaced instead? :roll:
I really wish the cop would investigate you... Doesn't matter if you were on the right side of the fence yesterday, I find you have more and more dubious motives.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby ga7 on Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:17 am

Please update the first post with replacements Mr S, it's getting confusing :P Is Duday still in this?
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby aage on Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:26 am

ga7 wrote:
aage wrote:In that case we might as well just BW on Sensfan. imo he's the worst replacement for jrl that could have been found.
Unvote vote Sensfan.

Let me guess, you find the Serbia case also "baseless" so find it much more appropriate to do a random wagon on someone who just replaced instead? :roll:
I really wish the cop would investigate you... Doesn't matter if you were on the right side of the fence yesterday, I find you have more and more dubious motives.

No offence, but after complaining about the inactivity, does it seem wise to you to lynch one of the more active players? I'm talking about Serbia here...
I'm not saying I find your case against him entirely baseless. I however do disagree with you whereas you vote for Serbia because he Scumarines, while there's tons of players doing even less. Why pick him? It's Naxus' all over again. Except that in this night, Serbia started accusing you in this post after which you defended and turned around the argument. So no, I'm not into your accusation. At all.
Also, he'll probably claim tonight if no-one else will change their vote, so I don't see why I should bother... I'd rather have Squirrel prod a few guys.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby ga7 on Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:34 am

Lol, fishy. First you say this:
aage wrote:I'm equally happy to lynch either Serbia or Strike Wolf, thought I just think Strike Wolf is more scummy and should reply. Reply! please


If I have the vote count correct its 3 for Serbia and 2 for Strike Wolf. Deadline is tomorrow and we need 6 to lynch. So I'm assuming that is not gonna happen before the deadline.

People, post. And I don't mean the people that are already dead or modding.

Then happily go for Sensfan who just replaced since no one is voting Strike wolf. Seems to me you're looking hard to create a wagon that is not on Serbia.
We are not at a stage where we can not press a player just because he's active. Serbia has submarined, obviously he doesn't anymore, but he doesn't inspire me any trust contrary to Strike Wolf (both accused me btw, which is weak reasoning at best but doesn't matter much since they didn't even vote me). The inactive players are getting replaced so I don't see the point for voting the subs of inactive guys.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby aage on Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:05 am

ga7 wrote:Lol, fishy. First you say this:
aage wrote:I'm equally happy to lynch either Serbia or Strike Wolf, thought I just think Strike Wolf is more scummy and should reply. Reply! please


If I have the vote count correct its 3 for Serbia and 2 for Strike Wolf. Deadline is tomorrow and we need 6 to lynch. So I'm assuming that is not gonna happen before the deadline.

People, post. And I don't mean the people that are already dead or modding.

Then happily go for Sensfan who just replaced since no one is voting Strike wolf. Seems to me you're looking hard to create a wagon that is not on Serbia.
We are not at a stage where we can not press a player just because he's active. Serbia has submarined, obviously he doesn't anymore, but he doesn't inspire me any trust contrary to Strike Wolf (both accused me btw, which is weak reasoning at best but doesn't matter much since they didn't even vote me). The inactive players are getting replaced so I don't see the point for voting the subs of inactive guys.

I did the same with Naxus. You know how that turned out... I'm just not trusting your "feeling" if you like, as you say Serbia is not inspiring you trust... I'm sensing a feel-vote. I just don't like that way of posting.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby aage on Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:08 am

[quote="aage]I did the same with Naxus. You know how that turned out... I'm just not trusting your "feeling" if you like, as you say Serbia is not inspiring you trust... I'm sensing a feel-vote. I just don't like that way of posting.[/quote]
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby ga7 on Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:12 am

Please explain how your vote for Sensfan is less a "feel vote".
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby strike wolf on Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:36 am

Sorry for the inactivity. Had an important test to study for. I'll make a post when I've finished reading what I missed.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby aage on Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:53 am

ga7 wrote:Please explain how your vote for Sensfan is less a "feel vote".

Sensfan is genuinly not there. Serbia on the other hand...
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Two more town killed!

Postby strike wolf on Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:45 am

aage wrote:
strike wolf wrote:Aage, I find it suspicious that this whole time when the suspicions around Naxus is building up he appears to be completely convinced that Naxus is telling the truth. He may have turned out to be right about Naxus but I still have to wonder how he could have been so sure about it.

This is answered easily.

The case built up against Naxus had no consistancy. A bunch of naggers looking for someone to claim. I didn't believe you, so consequently I believed Naxus. Every time you guys thought you'd come up with another argument you were just searching an excuse to lynch Naxus anyway. I didn't like it, so therefore I decided on defending Naxus. No, I had no idea what Naxus was, but I was pretty sure he wasn't scum.


That's the thing, there were others who believed that Naxus was town yesterday but you were the one who never doubted a word he said. I have to wonder why. You say the case against Naxus had no consistancy but I would use that word to more quickly describe his role claim at the time and I would take 9 times out of 10 that someone who edits the conditions about their role every time someone points out something that doesn't quite add up that that person is scum, I was wrong this time but I still feel the argument against him was solid.

aage wrote:
Mr. Squirrel wrote:Vote Count

strike wolf (1) - aage
serbia (2) - ga7, AceArtemis

6 to lynch

Fixed

Strike wolf, found the forum yet?


aage wrote:I'm equally happy to lynch either Serbia or Strike Wolf, thought I just think Strike Wolf is more scummy and should reply. Reply! please

If I have the vote count correct its 3 for Serbia and 2 for Strike Wolf. Deadline is tomorrow and we need 6 to lynch. So I'm assuming that is not gonna happen before the deadline.


Ok 2 posts for me to reply against claims I gave a defense for without providing any new basis for why I need to defend myself within 24 hours, am I the only one who thinks he's pressing for my lynch a little bit strong here?

aage wrote:In that case we might as well just BW on Sensfan. imo he's the worst replacement for jrl that could have been found.
Unvote vote Sensfan.


So you go from going after me to more or less picking out a random wagon against someone. Were you afraid my wagon wasn't building any steam so you needed another wagon to draw attention away from Serbia?

aage wrote:
ga7 wrote:
aage wrote:In that case we might as well just BW on Sensfan. imo he's the worst replacement for jrl that could have been found.
Unvote vote Sensfan.

Let me guess, you find the Serbia case also "baseless" so find it much more appropriate to do a random wagon on someone who just replaced instead? :roll:
I really wish the cop would investigate you... Doesn't matter if you were on the right side of the fence yesterday, I find you have more and more dubious motives.

No offence, but after complaining about the inactivity, does it seem wise to you to lynch one of the more active players? I'm talking about Serbia here...
I'm not saying I find your case against him entirely baseless. I however do disagree with you whereas you vote for Serbia because he Scumarines, while there's tons of players doing even less. Why pick him? It's Naxus' all over again. Except that in this night, Serbia started accusing you in this post after which you defended and turned around the argument. So no, I'm not into your accusation. At all.
Also, he'll probably claim tonight if no-one else will change their vote, so I don't see why I should bother... I'd rather have Squirrel prod a few guys.


Serbia has been active today, when he's been on the radar as one of the main targets. Yesterday not so much. I was under the impression that the bandwagon against him was weak but you're actually getting me to change my opinion here a little bit. I wouldn't be too surprised if you both turned out to be scum.

aage wrote:I did the same with Naxus. You know how that turned out... I'm just not trusting your "feeling" if you like, as you say Serbia is not inspiring you trust... I'm sensing a feel-vote. I just don't like that way of posting.


Are you determined to try to ride this "I was right about Naxus so obviously I must be town and am above questioning" thing all the way through the game?

Vote aage You have acted oddly to say the least of it and if this is going to end in a kill regardless of whether we get the needed votes or deadline is reached I find you more suspicious than Serbia at this point.

That being said if we still have a cop, I would like for him to at least investigate serbia tonight.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby colton24 on Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:46 am

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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday night!

Postby strike wolf on Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:56 am

Serbia wrote:I'm going to VOTE: Strike Wolf
for two reasons. One, since we now have a deadline, and I don't particularly want to be lynched, I want to keep myself with a fighting chance as we get closer to Tuesday. Also,
strike wolf wrote:Well that sucked...At this point FOS: Ga7 While the Naxus lynch did seem like legitimate reason to go after him, Ga7 is the one who lead the charge the whole way in drawing suspicion onto him.

Also FOS: Aage you may have been right about Naxus but I still don't like the way you acted on day 2.

Ga7 did lead the charge to lynch naxus, but strike happily followed. In fact, if Ga7 was the lynch leader, then Strike was the First Lieutenant helping achieve lynch. And then FOS'ing aage is suspicious to me - almost as if he's just trying to throw something on the wall to see if it sticks. All rather scummy in my opinion.


My intention was to get information flowing as I said, most of our best leads from day 2 died at the lynch (naxus) and over night (cena-hammered Naxus; lalaland-while admittedly appeared a lot less suspicious after Naxus turned up innocent to the point i would have been surprised he was investigated let alone vig killed, did draw some attention as a Person of Interest) what it left me with were ga7 and aage. Two people I thought were a bit suspicious (however unlikely to be aligned), I didn't really expect to get a lynch out of either but I wanted them to provide at least a suitable defense as to their reasoning as I didn't feel there was much else to go on.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Two more town killed!

Postby aage on Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:49 pm

strike wolf wrote:That's the thing, there were others who believed that Naxus was town yesterday but you were the one who never doubted a word he said. I have to wonder why. You say the case against Naxus had no consistancy but I would use that word to more quickly describe his role claim at the time and I would take 9 times out of 10 that someone who edits the conditions about their role every time someone points out something that doesn't quite add up that that person is scum, I was wrong this time but I still feel the argument against him was solid.

Then that is where we disagree. Could it be that simple?

strike wolf wrote:Ok 2 posts for me to reply against claims I gave a defense for without providing any new basis for why I need to defend myself within 24 hours, am I the only one who thinks he's pressing for my lynch a little bit strong here?

If I wanted a lynch I would have voted Serbia.
Also, you just gave a defense. So what the hell?

strike wolf wrote:So you go from going after me to more or less picking out a random wagon against someone. Were you afraid my wagon wasn't building any steam so you needed another wagon to draw attention away from Serbia?

You can lynch him allright. There's no way for me to stop that now. I'm just trying to get people back online.

strike wolf wrote:Serbia has been active today, when he's been on the radar as one of the main targets. Yesterday not so much. I was under the impression that the bandwagon against him was weak but you're actually getting me to change my opinion here a little bit. I wouldn't be too surprised if you both turned out to be scum.

You can't blame him for coming online and defending himself. You can blame him however for coming online, defending himself and then pretending to have suddenly become an active townie. I'm not blaming you guys for that argument, if you're using it. I disagree with the way you pretend to find scum, and try to show that.

strike wolf wrote:Are you determined to try to ride this "I was right about Naxus so obviously I must be town and am above questioning" thing all the way through the game?

Lol. I used this argument for how many game days? A half? Don't over-exaggerate.

strike wolf wrote:Vote aage You have acted oddly to say the least of it and if this is going to end in a kill regardless of whether we get the needed votes or deadline is reached I find you more suspicious than Serbia at this point.

That being said if we still have a cop, I would like for him to at least investigate serbia tonight.

I can't pretend not to act oddly, however I tried to explain multiple times why..
Also Serbia will most probably be dead, so I advise the cop to investigate the one of the two of us that's still alive after today's lynch. I have no problem with that. And no, I'm not a hider :P
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby edocsil on Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:33 pm

This whole thing stinks of OMGUS. Everyone is just voting for the person who voted for them, or voting for a submariner. Personally I don't think that any of the arguments here are worth lynching over.

If we really want to kill someone for scumarining one of the better options would be Duday, he has posted 4 or 5 times (counted 4 might have missed one or two) and this was the most substance he ever posted

duday53 wrote:Beeeeen really busy. Hockey, school, and working. Sorry :p

Um I love how spread out the votes are.. goddam day one

FOS Artemis, but not vote. What he said isn't worth a vote.


Oh, that and a joke vote D1, plus a few other random "I am to busy to post right now, will post soon" posts. This is just an option, providing nothing gets any clearer here. But personally, we only have a few hours to sort this out, and I doubt that is going to happen. Someone is going to end up getting lynched because of some half-assed case.


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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:04 pm

ga7 wrote:Please update the first post with replacements Mr S, it's getting confusing :P Is Duday still in this?

Safariguy will be replacing Duday and Victor replaced trestain. First post updated. Vote count coming soon
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby edocsil on Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:06 pm

Well, forget what I just said then.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:16 pm

Vote Count

serbia (2) - ga7, AceArtemis
sensfan (1) - aage
aage (1) - strike wolf

6 to lynch
Deadline tomorrow night.
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday night!

Postby sensfan on Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:56 pm

Firstly I apolagize to everyone for being so inactive in this mafia, i havent much time these days. I'll get back on track now.

And Secondly, wasn't aage talking about voting other people then lazily voted me? Like, what the heck? That was so random of him and tried to get someone to BW on me.

He says "In that case we might as well just BW on Sensfan. imo he's the worst replacement for jrl that could have been found. "

Im the worst replacement for jrl? Well, that's a 'feel' vote, in fact more of a i'm scum and know whos not mafia so lets kill him. It's screamin I'm scum kill me. Just because im inactive doesnt mean im not town. Can we just please vote for someone useful? The deadlines close, so we gotta do something. Aage seems like a good choice to lynch tonight, or at least get a roleclaim outta him and get matters straight. But trying to BW on someone who is inactive and is a rookie at this?

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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby Serbia on Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:09 pm

Mr. Squirrel wrote:Vote Count

serbia (2) - ga7, AceArtemis
sensfan (1) - aage
aage (1) - strike wolf

6 to lynch
Deadline tomorrow night.


You missed my awesomely huge
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday night!

Postby Serbia on Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:10 pm

Also, seeing as we're having two replacements now, can we possibly get an extension on your deadline? Give the new guys a chance to actually get caught up and play?
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Re: X-Men Mafia - Day 3! Deadline Tuesday! NEED REPLACEMENTS

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:17 pm

Vote Count
Strike wolf (1) - serbia
serbia (2) - ga7, AceArtemis
sensfan (1) - aage
aage (2) - strike wolf, sensfan

6 to lynch
Deadline extended until thursday night.
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