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[duday53]

right now..I see Duday AND fircoal submarinning like hell.

fircoal came back only to say he was to a Concert..and vanishes after. So.......

Vote: Fircoal

FoS: Duday

I'm going to say that I am in too many mafia games right now. Until I die in some of them, I will try and do my best to check the thread regularly... But I've been really busy with school/work lately.

[lalaland]

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what do people think about a no-lynch?

Definitly not. We got 2 submariners and someone who wanted a quick lynch on Victor.

No need for a no lynch.

Fair point, but what do you suggest we do do?

(doodoo, teehee )

[Fircoal]

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what do people think about a no-lynch?

Definitly not. We got 2 submariners and someone who wanted a quick lynch on Victor.

No need for a no lynch.

Hey I'm gonna stop mah scumarining ways >:U

[spiesr]

Hey I'm gonna stop mah scumarining ways >:U

And become a scum who posts actively?

[Fircoal]

Hey I'm gonna stop mah scumarining ways >:U

And become a scum who posts actively?

yea that. But hey its better than scumarining

[Victor Sullivan]

Hey I'm gonna stop mah scumarining ways >:U

And become a scum who posts actively?

yea that. But hey its better than scumarining

Ummm... Unvote, vote Fircoal?

[edocsil]

Hey I'm gonna stop mah scumarining ways >:U

And become a scum who posts actively?

yea that. But hey its better than scumarining

Ummm... Unvote, vote Fircoal?

I was browsing this game during class today, but had no time to vote. I was planning of FoSing Fircoal for submarining, but I was beaten to the punch. Unfortunately due to my lack of a vote, all I can really do is BIG FoS on Fircoal.

[AceArtemis]

I have just self-prodded myself.

Yes, I have been less active than both Fircoal and duday. And none of you seem to have noticed. FoS AceArtemis

Anyway, reading through the thread, I believe 100% that Victor Sullivan is a cop. However, Victor could be lying about being town. In games with multiple mafia, it is not unheard of for the mafia to have cops for the purpose of figuring out who is in the other mafia. That being said, I don't want to lynch a claimed cop who is likely to be targeted by the mafia.

Although I'm not a fan on principle, what do people think about a no-lynch?

WHY would a townie want a no-lynch? There's so many mafia in this game, we probably have at least a 50% chance of hitting scum if we lynch at random. I would vote for you, but my vote is already on you from Page 1.

[edocsil]

I have just self-prodded myself.

Yes, I have been less active than both Fircoal and duday. And none of you seem to have noticed. FoS AceArtemis

Ya, but the difference between you and Fircoal is he NEVER shuts up....

[Victor Sullivan]

I have just self-prodded myself.

Yes, I have been less active than both Fircoal and duday. And none of you seem to have noticed. FoS AceArtemis

Anyway, reading through the thread, I believe 100% that Victor Sullivan is a cop. However, Victor could be lying about being town. In games with multiple mafia, it is not unheard of for the mafia to have cops for the purpose of figuring out who is in the other mafia. That being said, I don't want to lynch a claimed cop who is likely to be targeted by the mafia.

Although I'm not a fan on principle, what do people think about a no-lynch?

WHY would a townie want a no-lynch? There's so many mafia in this game, we probably have at least a 50% chance of hitting scum if we lynch at random. I would vote for you, but my vote is already on you from Page 1.

Unvote, vote Ace Artemis How do you know there's a 50/50 shot? Clearly you aren't a townie. Obviously, you're a mafia and three people are in your mafia, so you assume there's 3 of the other mafia, thus making 6 town and a 50/50 shot at hitting scum. Only a mafia would know! Town don't know who each other are or how many of them there are. For all we know, there could be two or 4 members in each mafia!

-Sully

[Fircoal]

I have just self-prodded myself.

Yes, I have been less active than both Fircoal and duday. And none of you seem to have noticed. FoS AceArtemis

Ya, but the difference between you and Fircoal is he NEVER shuts up....

Hey! I do believe I do shut up when I wishzel >:U

I have just self-prodded myself.

Yes, I have been less active than both Fircoal and duday. And none of you seem to have noticed. FoS AceArtemis

Anyway, reading through the thread, I believe 100% that Victor Sullivan is a cop. However, Victor could be lying about being town. In games with multiple mafia, it is not unheard of for the mafia to have cops for the purpose of figuring out who is in the other mafia. That being said, I don't want to lynch a claimed cop who is likely to be targeted by the mafia.

Although I'm not a fan on principle, what do people think about a no-lynch?

WHY would a townie want a no-lynch? There's so many mafia in this game, we probably have at least a 50% chance of hitting scum if we lynch at random. I would vote for you, but my vote is already on you from Page 1.

Unvote, vote Ace Artemis How do you know there's a 50/50 shot? Clearly you aren't a townie. Obviously, you're a mafia and three people are in your mafia, so you assume there's 3 of the other mafia, thus making 6 town and a 50/50 shot at hitting scum. Only a mafia would know! Town don't know who each other are or how many of them there are. For all we know, there could be two or 4 members in each mafia!

-Sully

Look at the diction that he used. He's not saying that there is for sure a 50% chance of hitting scum, he thinks that there is at least 50%. That is merely a guess not a statement. However you thought that it was a statement which to me looks kinda scummy as it looks like that you know it to be 3 each mafia. However your claim seems solid. Uguu, I'm confusedzel D:

[oldrisky44]

Ok, this is the last time I use the noob excuse.

I did not earlier realize how much info can be gathered in these posts. As I said previously I have been used to observing body language and other visual cues. The more I read the more subtle clues seem to appear. But my point about fircoal and duday is that they could have QUIETLY dropped a vote in to get a lynch earlier without arousing too much suspicion IF they wanted to. Obviously they can't do it now because we are all smelling rats.

That being said, I do not want a quick lynch, but I do think we should have a lynching based on the previous several posts, we townies appear to be either outnumbered from the start or 50/50 at best.

If each mafia gets one kill they can quickly (in one night) have us badly outnumbered.

Speaking of clues...

Ok this time I'm just being lazy and I know it. Idk I don't really look at this thread like I do the others. I don't know why.

Is it just me or does it seem scummy to spend so little time looking for clues in a game where you are a townie? Mafia does not need a lot of time in the day, they make their kills at night.

This looks like an admission of his role to me.

[colton24]

Vote Count
lalaland(1)-AceArtemis
Victor Sullivan(3)-spiesr, cena-rules, sensfan
freezie(1)-???
Fircoal(3)-aage, oldrisky44, freezie
edocsil(1)-lalaland
Ace Artemis(1)-Victor Sullivan

Not voting: Fircoal, duday53, edocsil

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch

[oldrisky44]

Alive N Kicking
1. edocsil
2. lalaland
3. Victor Sullivan
4. aage
5. cena-rules
6. sensfan
7. oldrisky44
8. freezie
9. duday53
10. Fircoal
11. AceArtemis
12. spieser

Vote Count
lalaland(1)-AceArtemis
Victor Sullivan(3)-spiesr, cena-rules, sensfan
freezie(1)-???
Fircoal(3)-aage, oldrisky44, freezie
edocsil(1)-lalaland
Ace Artemis(1)-Victor Sullivan

Not voting: Fircoal, duday53, edocsil

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch

Question...
??? (above) = Player 13 or a silent "Not Voter"?

[lalaland]

Although I'm not a fan on principle, what do people think about a no-lynch?

WHY would a townie want a no-lynch? There's so many mafia in this game, we probably have at least a 50% chance of hitting scum if we lynch at random. I would vote for you, but my vote is already on you from Page 1.

I will tell you why a townie is considering no-lynch:
It seems to me that mafia would find other mafia more of a threat in the beginning of the game, so my guess is that they won't try to go for townies tonight, but members of the rival mafia. Therefore, while if we go under your assumption of a 50% chance of hitting scum (and a 50% chance of hitting a TOWN!) in a random day-lynch, I'm also guessing that mafia will be hitting other mafia at night.
So it may not be all that risky for us to let the mafia duke it out, and we abstain for the day.

However, Fircoal's scummarining is suspicious to me , so I'm going to unvote vote fircoal, but I think at this stage in the game we have to consider the idea that a no lynch may not be a town-unfriendly thing in this game.

[aage]

I'm gonna unvote vote victor sullivan. You jump your vote too often for reasons beyond comprehension.

No, I'm not doing this to get Fircoal off 4 votes. He is suspicious as well since he shows up when kicked and says nothing. Atm though I don't like the way Victor is voting. I know, not only in this game, but may it be a warning.

[Fircoal]

Ok this time I'm just being lazy and I know it. Idk I don't really look at this thread like I do the others. I don't know why.

Is it just me or does it seem scummy to spend so little time looking for clues in a game where you are a townie? Mafia does not need a lot of time in the day, they make their kills at night.

This looks like an admission of his role to me.

That tells you nothing. Look at me in DA mafia. In that game I was scum but I spent a lot of time trying to find clues so that I could get someone lynched. How active I am has nothing to do with my role. It's more the game and other factors. x3 Besides mafia needs to know what happens at day too, and it's kinda silly to just look through it at night.

I'm gonna unvote vote victor sullivan. You jump your vote too often for reasons beyond comprehension.

No, I'm not doing this to get Fircoal off 4 votes. He is suspicious as well since he shows up when kicked and says nothing. Atm though I don't like the way Victor is voting. I know, not only in this game, but may it be a warning.

Did you miss the part where he claimed? I know he seems suspicious but his claim is important and solid... Also I take great offense at the fact that you say I say nothing. You can say that I'm scumarining because as we all know that is true. You can say I look suspicious because that's ur opinion. You can't say I've said nothing though. I've been trying to find some scumtells and I have put in my input now, and maybe it's not my best work but it's better than other players. The only reason you look twice at it is the fact that I wasn't posting before, and that's nawt fair.

[Fircoal]

Although I'm not a fan on principle, what do people think about a no-lynch?

WHY would a townie want a no-lynch? There's so many mafia in this game, we probably have at least a 50% chance of hitting scum if we lynch at random. I would vote for you, but my vote is already on you from Page 1.

I will tell you why a townie is considering no-lynch:
It seems to me that mafia would find other mafia more of a threat in the beginning of the game, so my guess is that they won't try to go for townies tonight, but members of the rival mafia. Therefore, while if we go under your assumption of a 50% chance of hitting scum (and a 50% chance of hitting a TOWN!) in a random day-lynch, I'm also guessing that mafia will be hitting other mafia at night.
So it may not be all that risky for us to let the mafia duke it out, and we abstain for the day.

However, Fircoal's scummarining is suspicious to me , so I'm going to unvote vote fircoal, but I think at this stage in the game we have to consider the idea that a no lynch may not be a town-unfriendly thing in this game.

While the reason that you vote no-lynch has some merit behind it (for once), your vote of me looks lazy and really just sounds like a nice echo of everything that has been said in the past page. The worst part is the fact that I'm nawt scummarining right now while there are others that are. Your vote looks more meaningless and bandwagonish than anything. FOS: lalaland

[Fircoal]

Well because everyone has been stating that I've been scumarining I've decided to do a tally of the amount of posts that everyone did. This is what I found:

1 lalaland 21
2 freezie 17
3 edocsil 14
4 oldrisky44 14
5 Victor Sullivan 13
6 spieser 10
7 Fircoal 10 (with this post)
8 aage 9
9 cena-rules 5
10 duday53 4
11 AceArtemis 3
12 sensfan 1

First off after this post I'm not even in the bottom half of the game anymore. So continuing to pile on me for scumarining when there are people way worse than me is just misguided and scummy. It's not really fair that because I happened to be gone while this thread went 6 of its pages and everyone checked in and stuff I got flagged right away. When you think about it like that and imagine had I been able to post then, I would probably have a higher vote count. Or hey, maybe that's why I'm not posting as much here. It's all theory you know?

I have to draw attention to cena and sens. Ace and duday's scumarining is scummy but with duday I've kinda seen it done before so I'm nawt as worried about him and Ace has the balls to admit he was scumarining, which seems more pro-town than pro-scum to me. Cena usually posts a lot more than he does.It may not be the best stuff but he usually posts stuff, though in his game he was saying he had problems with his internet so I don't know... Sensfan is the big one that stands out to me, I didn't even know he was in the game until I looked at the list!!!! If you're going to call anyone out for scummarining get the person whose sole post was:

vote victor sullivan

Yea I know I can be more active than others but don't expect me to post like crazy every game. Sometimes I'm nawt gonna be that interested til come I see something exciting. I think the fact that I missed 6 pages kinda got me more out of the game, but now that I've been following closely to the late pages I'm back in. So if you wanna vote a scumariner there are 4 better ones out there who were nawt screwed by being gone that haven't shown much promise to actually stop their scumarining ways.

[Fircoal]

ooh, I forgot to note, I'm suspicious of Lalaland. It's interesting as I don't really see her posting a lot in most games yet in this game she has 21 posts, the most out of anyone here. I'm thinking she may be excited about her role which could mean it's a mafia one.

[spiesr]

But my point about fircoal and duday is that they could have QUIETLY dropped a vote in to get a lynch earlier without arousing too much suspicion IF they wanted to. Obviously they can't do it now because we are all smelling rats.

Not really, quickly and quietly finishing someone off either before they had a chance to claim, or after they claimed a claim that isn't at least partially discredited will arouse much suspicion. In a game where votes are all placed in a permanent visible record you can't exactly sneak stuff like that by.

Is it just me or does it seem scummy to spend so little time looking for clues in a game where you are a townie? Mafia does not need a lot of time in the day, they make their kills at night.

Interestingly enough, this is one game where the mafia have as much reason to root out scum as the town themselves, so this argument doesn't really work here. The only sort of roles that would not have at least some inherent motivation to search out scum would be survivors and maybe SKs.

I will tell you why a townie is considering no-lynch:
It seems to me that mafia would find other mafia more of a threat in the beginning of the game, so my guess is that they won't try to go for townies tonight, but members of the rival mafia. Therefore, while if we go under your assumption of a 50% chance of hitting scum (and a 50% chance of hitting a TOWN!) in a random day-lynch, I'm also guessing that mafia will be hitting other mafia at night.
So it may not be all that risky for us to let the mafia duke it out, and we abstain for the day.

You assume that the mafia have a very high chance of finding each other right away in this scenario. But it seems to me if they had ways to automatically find each other that fast then this game would be pretty broken. The way I see it if each scum group picks a target to kill without any concrete evidence then they are more likely to hit a townie than a scum...

[oldrisky44]

Very good points spiesr.

Ok, then what are the role-types that have been claimed or evidenced...

1. A witness who does not get a daytime vote. What powers could he posses?
2. "???" a silent voter. Is he good or bad?

This is meant as an educational request for information. I am asking what are the potential roles that would exhibit these characteristics.

[edocsil]

Very good points spiesr.

Ok, then what are the role-types that have been claimed or evidenced...

1. A witness who does not get a daytime vote. What powers could he posses?
2. "???" a silent voter. Is he good or bad?

This is meant as an educational request for information. I am asking what are the potential roles that would exhibit these characteristics.

A witness (wrong term, implies I can see things at night) like myself is usually paired with another power from what I have seen, usually minor. Sometimes however, the mod hands out weak town roles to make the day game FAR more important.

A silent voter is quite common. A politician can control another's vote, sometimes is ???. A double voter can place a second vote by PMing the mod, that always is a ???. I have seen 3 double voters in about 6 games here, quite a common role. I don't know of any other roles off hand, but the mod can always make up twists as well.

[AceArtemis]

Vote Count
lalaland(1)-AceArtemis
Victor Sullivan(3)-spiesr, cena-rules, sensfan
freezie(1)-???
Fircoal(3)-aage, oldrisky44, freezie
edocsil(1)-lalaland
Ace Artemis(1)-Victor Sullivan

Not voting: Fircoal, duday53, edocsil

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch

It's interesting that the secret vote is not being used to bandwagon. That could mean either that the user of the secret vote is inactive, or that they don't want to reveal their identity by using both of their votes on the same person.

The current bandwagons are on Fircoal and Victor Sullivan. I don't like either right now. I don't want to lynch the claimed cop, and it looks like the people on Fircoal's bandwagon are just saying "Fircoal's lurking, he must be scum". From my experience, the scum are usually the people who post a decent amount to make it look like they aren't lurking, but don't actually contribute to the discussion.

I'm now going to examine all of duday's posts.

I'm going to be straight up here..

I honestly have no idea who to vote for.

We are all uninformed on Day 1. However, you should at least try to contribute to the discussion. Find a post that your gut tells you is scummy, and comment on that. That way, we can get more information for future days. This quote seems so scummy, it's almost jester-ish.

This is an interesting game because even mafia players may be looking for scum tells lol.

I'm in too many of these goddamn mafias

QFT

As for Victor's claim.. its believable. He may have doomed himself tonight if there are no bodyguards or doctors. But there must be if there are going to be at least two nightkills every night..

Thank you, Admiral Obvious. Here, it looks like you posted to make it look like you are contributing, without actually adding anything to the discussion.

edocsil, were you aware that you had no vote?

Ya, but I forgot...

lol. As if you forgot.

Again, nothing of substance...

right now..I see Duday AND fircoal submarinning like hell.

fircoal came back only to say he was to a Concert..and vanishes after. So.......

Vote: Fircoal

FoS: Duday

I'm going to say that I am in too many mafia games right now. Until I die in some of them, I will try and do my best to check the thread regularly... But I've been really busy with school/work lately.

It is understandable that you haven't had the time to really post in this game, but you haven't really contributed the entire game. (To be fair, I haven't either). So in an attempt to make you contribute, I'm going to Unvote, Vote: duday and ask you this question: Who do you think is acting the scummiest right now?

I'm also suspicious of Cena, so FoS Cena. I'll go after you next.

[aage]

I'm gonna unvote vote victor sullivan. You jump your vote too often for reasons beyond comprehension.

No, I'm not doing this to get Fircoal off 4 votes. He is suspicious as well since he shows up when kicked and says nothing. Atm though I don't like the way Victor is voting. I know, not only in this game, but may it be a warning.

Did you miss the part where he claimed? I know he seems suspicious but his claim is important and solid...

Yup. Unvote. With all these games it gets hard to keep track of who claimed where, and I suppose the unnecessity of Victor's claim in this game did not contribute to that lol.

Also I take great offense at the fact that you say I say nothing. You can say that I'm scumarining because as we all know that is true. You can say I look suspicious because that's ur opinion. You can't say I've said nothing though. I've been trying to find some scumtells and I have put in my input now, and maybe it's not my best work but it's better than other players. The only reason you look twice at it is the fact that I wasn't posting before, and that's nawt fair.

Untrue. Look at when I posted the part you're quoting. The only thing you came up with up to there was things like "Ok this time I'm just being lazy and I know it", "sadly I have no idea and am not finding any yet. ffffffffffffffffff", "Hey I'm gonna stop mah scumarining ways >:U" or, and this is possibly the most intelligent quote, "Look at the diction that he used. He's not saying that there is for sure a 50% chance of hitting scum, he thinks that there is at least 50%. That is merely a guess not a statement. However you thought that it was a statement which to me looks kinda scummy as it looks like that you know it to be 3 each mafia. However your claim seems solid. Uguu, I'm confusedzel D:".

Are you surprised I mention your posts are having an 'actual content deficiancy'?
Still, I won't vote for you now, since you kind of made your point with making about 6 posts in a row.

I don't feel right with rejoining the bandwagon, but I don't like how so many people are not posting.

Vote Duday
Unvote vote Cena
Unvote vote Sensfan
Unvote vote Ace

Ace is making Duday black because Duday has posted infrequently and while posting has been talking general rubbish.
I however have seen not much differently from Ace himself except this post. And possibly the previous in which he is also pretty obvious.