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11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby lostatlimbo on Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:04 pm

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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby VampireM on Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:05 pm

good for him? ur point is that 1v1 can be very unfair? u get a cookie
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby lostatlimbo on Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:08 pm

This has to be a record. Has anyone ever had a worse drop? Please post.
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby Timminz on Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:34 pm

Guaranteed, someone has had worse. I mean, you got to go first. You had a better than 50/50 shot to reduce your opponent to an initial deploy of only 4.
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby ljex on Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:37 pm

I have seen far worse drops...like were it was like that and he the player with the 11 got to go first...
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby Georgerx7di on Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:10 pm

You must always get the worst drops. If you had fair drops you would be a general. You're an awesome player, it sucks that luck keeps you down all the time. Will you teach me how to play.
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby jrh_cardinal on Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:11 am

its 1v1, there have been many worse. Besides, that drop doesnt matter, first turn and dice will decide that game. If you break both his bonuses from chicago, all of a sudden you have a huge advantage, just like everyone else going first in 1v1.

ps - I actually like 1v1, play it a ton, but it's still almost all luck
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:53 am

lostatlimbo wrote:This has to be a record. Has anyone ever had a worse drop? Please post.


I remember awhile back seeing someone drop on New Worlds all the Indian Homelands in a 1v1, and the opponent got all the European homelands. Can't recall who it was.
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby Dako on Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:24 pm

I've seen a guy drop Europe on classic in 1v1.
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby Army of GOD on Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:27 pm

I've seen a guy drop Asia AND Europe and actually dropped 7s on all the borders
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby AndyDufresne on Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:38 pm

Some maps are beasts in 1vs1, and you learn to avoid 'em. I haven't played any 1vs1 on Great Lakes, but maybe it is one of 'em.


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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby Incandenza on Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:03 pm

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1v1 on AoM. My opponent went first and dropped 25. Pretty confident that's going to be tough to top.
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby AAFitz on Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:12 pm

Georgerx7di wrote:You must always get the worst drops. If you had fair drops you would be a general. You're an awesome player, it sucks that luck keeps you down all the time. Will you teach me how to play.


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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby AAFitz on Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:13 pm

Personally I think pearl harbor is the most likely to give an insanely unfair drop

Generally, those midsized maps are the worst, because the percentage of the advantage in going first is the most. On the smaller maps its not as much and ironically if the map is big enough, the advantage is often surpassed by sheer volume as well.
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby ljex on Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:44 pm

Incandenza wrote:Game 3767006

1v1 on AoM. My opponent went first and dropped 25. Pretty confident that's going to be tough to top.


I remember seeing that game before somewhere...but yeah i don't think there can be much of a more one sided drop
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby AAFitz on Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:50 pm

Incandenza wrote:Game 3767006

1v1 on AoM. My opponent went first and dropped 25. Pretty confident that's going to be tough to top.


eh, just as much chance it takes all 25 to kill a 3 at this point.
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby maasman on Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:07 pm

Incandenza wrote:Game 3767006

1v1 on AoM. My opponent went first and dropped 25. Pretty confident that's going to be tough to top.


This is the game I was going to quote, I can't think of a map where it could be more one sided.
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:44 pm

I was thumbing through some Pearl Harbor, but the highest I found was 21.
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:44 pm

I was thumbing through some Pearl Harbor, but the highest I found was 21.
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby Incandenza on Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:08 pm

ljex wrote:
Incandenza wrote:Game 3767006

1v1 on AoM. My opponent went first and dropped 25. Pretty confident that's going to be tough to top.


I remember seeing that game before somewhere...but yeah i don't think there can be much of a more one sided drop


Any time I see someone moan about getting an unfair drop in a 1v1, I'll toss out that old chestnut. :D
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby lostatlimbo on Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:12 pm

Timminz wrote:Guaranteed, someone has had worse. I mean, you got to go first. You had a better than 50/50 shot to reduce your opponent to an initial deploy of only 4.


Going first means nothing. I barely even broke his bonus of 4, still leaving the 2. Second turn I couldn't break either. You're pretty stuck on the first turn but a drop like that isn't about first turn its about making it nearly impossible to gain an advantage at any point in the game.
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby lostatlimbo on Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:14 pm

Incandenza wrote:Game 3767006

1v1 on AoM. My opponent went first and dropped 25. Pretty confident that's going to be tough to top.


Well that wins pretty easily. One of many reasons I avoid "Age of" maps
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby ljex on Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:28 pm

lostatlimbo wrote:
Incandenza wrote:Game 3767006

1v1 on AoM. My opponent went first and dropped 25. Pretty confident that's going to be tough to top.


Well that wins pretty easily. One of many reasons I avoid "Age of" maps


well most of the "age of" maps have no real unfair drops as they everyone starts with basically the same thing...at least in terms of bonuses. I too dont like those maps but its because they aren't fun and i dont know them so if that is your reason i agree.
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby Bruceswar on Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:30 am

TheForgivenOne wrote:
lostatlimbo wrote:This has to be a record. Has anyone ever had a worse drop? Please post.


I remember awhile back seeing someone drop on New Worlds all the Indian Homelands in a 1v1, and the opponent got all the European homelands. Can't recall who it was.




Here is one like it....


2008-05-21 21:44:30 - Bruceswar got bonus of 4 troops added to France
2008-05-21 21:44:30 - Bruceswar got bonus of 4 troops added to Britain
2008-05-21 21:44:30 - Bruceswar got bonus of 4 troops added to Spain
2008-05-21 21:44:30 - Bruceswar got bonus of 4 troops added to Portugal
2008-05-21 21:44:30 - Bruceswar received 3 troops for 4 regions

He had 4 in the Native lands.
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Re: 11 to 5 drop for my opponent

Postby Timminz on Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:53 pm

lostatlimbo wrote:
Timminz wrote:Guaranteed, someone has had worse. I mean, you got to go first. You had a better than 50/50 shot to reduce your opponent to an initial deploy of only 4.


Going first means nothing. I barely even broke his bonus of 4, still leaving the 2. Second turn I couldn't break either. You're pretty stuck on the first turn but a drop like that isn't about first turn its about making it nearly impossible to gain an advantage at any point in the game.


You're right. Having a 56% chance to reduce the guy to a deploy SMALLER than the one you got is absolutely irrelevant.
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