1 vs 1, which player starts first?

Website · by **castudil** on Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:13 pm

Hi guys, did a quick search in the search box up there ^ , but couldnt find an answer for this:

I found out that most of the time I am playing with another opponent 1 vs 1, and I go (unfortunately for me) in second place.

Most of the time I don't create the games but join existing ones.

I want to know what are the policies for deciding which player goes first, for example, totally random (Coin flipping), ranking of the player, host of the game, previous history of games, etc. any input will be appreciated!

by **squishyg** on Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:14 pm

it's random. it doesn't always seem it, but it's random.

by **SirSebstar** on Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:27 pm

squishyg wrote:it's random. it doesn't always seem it, but it's random.

what he said, its random unless it is manual freestyle 1vs 1. Then the last one to drop is not the first untill half the normal time has passed (12 hours or 2.5 minutes in speed games)

by **squishyg** on Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:19 pm

SirSebstar wrote:
squishyg wrote:it's random. it doesn't always seem it, but it's random.

what she said, its random unless it is manual freestyle 1vs 1. Then the last one to drop is not the first untill half the normal time has passed (12 hours or 2.5 minutes in speed games)

fixed to reflect the presence of my vagina

by **Army of GOD** on Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:23 pm

Damn you squishy! Your vagina beat me in fixing his post!

by **SirSebstar** on Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:35 am

so noted.

Website · by **castudil** on Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:33 am

thanks for the quick response!

that officially confirm my bad luck then! :S

by **nick_la_trique** on Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:07 pm

I don't think it is totally random... Of course, it's a toss, but it is not realy a 50/50% chances. There is a slight advantage at being Red.

Statistically speaking, if it was really random, Red should be 50% of the time the first player on 1/1 games... Green too. If you have played 100 games, it might not be representative, but if you played 3000, there is no doubt it should show around that number. Maybe something like 49.7% or 51.2%. Over time the more rolls you do, the more the % will balance.

But I have found, over the large amount of 1/1 I've played, that it's mostly the Red player that goes first. I'd say it's approximately 67% of the time that the first player is Red. I calculated that with my own games. Maybe if someone else could do the math as well, that would confirm or not my own stats.

Now, with that said, they probably won't admit that at CC, but the numbers speak for themselves.

So try to start games and then see how often you start first... you'll see.

by **Army of GOD** on Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:03 pm

castudil wrote:Hi guys, did a quick search in the search box up there ^ , but couldnt find an answer for this:

I found out that most of the time I am playing with another opponent 1 vs 1, and I go (unfortunately for me) in second place.

Most of the time I don't create the games but join existing ones.

I want to know what are the policies for deciding which player goes first, for example, totally random (Coin flipping), ranking of the player, host of the game, previous history of games, etc. any input will be appreciated!

Your avatar is fucking awesome, btw.

by **squishyg** on Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:09 am

nick_la_trique wrote:I don't think it is totally random... Of course, it's a toss, but it is not realy a 50/50% chances. There is a slight advantage at being Red.

Statistically speaking, if it was really random, Red should be 50% of the time the first player on 1/1 games... Green too. If you have played 100 games, it might not be representative, but if you played 3000, there is no doubt it should show around that number. Maybe something like 49.7% or 51.2%. Over time the more rolls you do, the more the % will balance.

But I have found, over the large amount of 1/1 I've played, that it's mostly the Red player that goes first. I'd say it's approximately 67% of the time that the first player is Red. I calculated that with my own games. Maybe if someone else could do the math as well, that would confirm or not my own stats.

Now, with that said, they probably won't admit that at CC, but the numbers speak for themselves.

So try to start games and then see how often you start first... you'll see.

random does not equal 50%.

by **Army of GOD** on Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:52 am

nick_la_trique wrote:I don't think it is totally random... Of course, it's a toss, but it is not realy a 50/50% chances. There is a slight advantage at being Red.

Statistically speaking, if it was really random, Red should be 50% of the time the first player on 1/1 games... Green too. If you have played 100 games, it might not be representative, but if you played 3000, there is no doubt it should show around that number. Maybe something like 49.7% or 51.2%. Over time the more rolls you do, the more the % will balance.

But I have found, over the large amount of 1/1 I've played, that it's mostly the Red player that goes first. I'd say it's approximately 67% of the time that the first player is Red. I calculated that with my own games. Maybe if someone else could do the math as well, that would confirm or not my own stats.

Now, with that said, they probably won't admit that at CC, but the numbers speak for themselves.

So try to start games and then see how often you start first... you'll see.

But see, the definition of random is that if you were to do this out an infinite amount of times, it'd equal 50/50.

Have you done it an infinite amount of times?