C.C - TOFU vs the Legion [25-15] [Final]

[Chariot of Fire]

haha, you got me Mike. Quite right. As I was typing it I was thinking 'homonymic?' nah, 'homophobic? nah

[chephren]

haha, you got me Mike. Quite right. As I was typing it I was thinking 'homonymic?' nah, 'homophobic? nah

Mike knows a lot about the homo prefix...he's an expert

[Dai_atan]

haha, you got me Mike. Quite right. As I was typing it I was thinking 'homonymic?' nah, 'homophobic? nah

I hope you're not homophobic

[Snowgun]

Beastie Boys!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1

Say, Why does Empire have half the posts in this thread? Are they bored with their own challenge? Do we rock the most happening thread in town?

[chephren]

Beastie Boys!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1

Say, Why does Empire have half the posts in this thread? Are they bored with their own challenge? Do we rock the most happening thread in town?

We like to watch rabbits get skinned

[TheSpaceCowboy]

Beastie Boys!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1

Say, Why does Empire have half the posts in this thread? Are they bored with their own challenge? Do we rock the most happening thread in town?

We like to watch rabbits get skinned

Reminds us of that whole Fatal Attraction scene. . the pot on the stove. . ..

[Dai_atan]

but who is the Rabbit and who is the Skinner?

[chemefreak]

Guys,

All games have been joined by our side with one exception:

Game 6966957

[player]Iron Maid[/player] is unable to join this game because he is on [player]LFAW[/player]'s foe list.

Please have him 'unfoed' asap to prevent further delay. Thanks

CoF

Anybody else think it is funny that now they give a f*ck about delay?

[Chariot of Fire]

Guys,

All games have been joined by our side with one exception:

Game 6966957

[player]Iron Maid[/player] is unable to join this game because he is on [player]LFAW[/player]'s foe list.

Please have him 'unfoed' asap to prevent further delay. Thanks

CoF

Anybody else think it is funny that now they give a f*ck about delay?

This is the content of a private message. Obviously the word 'private' escapes the notice of the idiot chemefreak (a lawyer? ha!) and he chooses to quote it ad verbatim in a public forum.

Secondly, we have always been concerned about delay - this is why we ensured all our games were created and sent on time and to the right people. Ironic that chemefreak feels that any delay so far has been on the part of TOFU, yet their games were only sent an hour before the deadline and now we're unable to join all of those games as they have a player who has foe listed one of our members....thus causing a delay.

Wise up smart arse, and in future keep the contents of a PM as they were intended.

[chemefreak]

Guys,

All games have been joined by our side with one exception:

Game 6966957

[player]Iron Maid[/player] is unable to join this game because he is on [player]LFAW[/player]'s foe list.

Please have him 'unfoed' asap to prevent further delay. Thanks

CoF

Anybody else think it is funny that now they give a f*ck about delay?

This is the content of a private message. Obviously the word 'private' escapes the notice of the idiot chemefreak (a lawyer? ha!) and he chooses to quote it ad verbatim in a public forum.

Secondly, we have always been concerned about delay - this is why we ensured all our games were created and sent on time and to the right people. Ironic that chemefreak feels that any delay so far has been on the part of TOFU, yet their games were only sent an hour before the deadline and now we're unable to join all of those games as they have a player who has foe listed one of our members....thus causing a delay.

Wise up smart arse, and in future keep the contents of a PM as they were intended.

You copied several people on your pm...thus it was no longer private, and obviously not privileged...just ask trap I sent our games to the right people. Dako is listed as the first contact for your fucking clan. He started the goddamn thread for f*ck's sake. I sent it to him and to the tournament creators. ToFU has delayed. There is no question about this.

I am smarter than you...by a ton. So get used to it. You will sleep better and it will help you move on.

[LFAW]

foe removed

[Chariot of Fire]

You copied several people on your pm...thus it was no longer private, and obviously not privileged...just ask trap I sent our games to the right people. Dako is listed as the first contact for your fucking clan. He started the goddamn thread for f*ck's sake. I sent it to him and to the tournament creators. ToFU has delayed. There is no question about this.

It's not a question of whether the information is privileged. It was a PM and as such the content was intended for the recipients only. I didn't plaster your ridiculous PM of the other day (for which you later apologized) in any public forum. I would expect others to extend the same courtesy.

Is Dako listed as the first contact? That's odd, because in the Conqueror's Cup tourney thread it clearly states:

6. The Odd Fellows Union
- Leader: Chariot of Fire
- Secondary Contact: Dako

Whether Dako started this particular thread is irrelevant. Simple protocol was ignored when you excluded me from your addressees when games info was sent.

TOFU has not delayed.

Fact - Legion were the last to join the games (where joining was possible).
Fact - LFAW's foeing of Iron Maid is further delaying progress.

So maybe you should get your house in order before you make barbed comments such as "Anybody else think it is funny that now they give a f*ck about delay?"

[chemefreak]

You copied several people on your pm...thus it was no longer private, and obviously not privileged...just ask trap I sent our games to the right people. Dako is listed as the first contact for your fucking clan. He started the goddamn thread for f*ck's sake. I sent it to him and to the tournament creators. ToFU has delayed. There is no question about this.

It's not a question of whether the information is privileged. It was a PM and as such the content was intended for the recipients only. I didn't plaster your ridiculous PM of the other day (for which you later apologized) in any public forum. I would expect others to extend the same courtesy.

Is Dako listed as the first contact? That's odd, because in the Conqueror's Cup tourney thread it clearly states:

6. The Odd Fellows Union
- Leader: Chariot of Fire
- Secondary Contact: Dako

Whether Dako started this particular thread is irrelevant. Simple protocol was ignored when you excluded me from your addressees when games info was sent.

TOFU has not delayed.

Fact - Legion were the last to join the games (where joining was possible).
Fact - LFAW's foeing of Iron Maid is further delaying progress.

So maybe you should get your house in order before you make barbed comments such as "Anybody else think it is funny that now they give a f*ck about delay?"

This is the way the thread that Dako created read when I copied its contents the first time I saw it:

TOFU
- Primary Contact: Dako
- Secondary Contact: Chariot of Fire
++The Legion++
- Primary Contact: chemefreak
- Secondary Contact: ralphcptc
EMPIRE
- Tournament Organizer: Chuuuuck
- Tournament Organizer: TheSpaceCowboy

Additionally, the rules are as follows:

Each clan should send their home games to the opposing clan by private message by the start day of the round. When games are sent, they must already be created, however, they do not have to be fully joined by home team yet. TheSpaceCowboy and myself should be copied in the private message sending each clans home games. This is not required but is highly recommended.

There is nothing in the rules about sending them to any person in particular, and at the time, I thought Dako was in charge. I apologized to you for the tone of pm only after I reflected on it for a while and felt bad about calling you out as an idiot in front of so many people...now, after even further reflection, I rescind my apology, and only want to say I am sorry you are a fucking moron...and you will notice that I did not bother to put this in a "private" message.

As for the delay issue. We had joined all the games until we realized your clan was going to wait until the very last second to join them so you could get the first view of fog games and perhaps get a turn in before we had a chance to see them. I feel that you are a bunch of pansies for doing this and recommend that our players join anyway. However, in every such game, our clan decided to have one player drop so as to not allow you that advantage. The funny thing is, you guys think this is going to be so easy (as you have stated several times), yet you have gone to such great lengths to gain even the smallest advantage. Cheap tactic. Very cheap.

You delayed. If you guys had joined the games within a relatively reasonable time period, the foe list issue could have been dealt with quickly (as it was in this case) and before the deadline had expired. I am sick and tired of this shit. It took you guys two whole weeks to come up with dubs, trips, and quads on the same maps...seriously? Then you wait to join games, games you created and clearly knew who was going to be in them.

As for the publicity of "private" messages...you have to be joking. There is no such rule or requirement. And that pm was not a tournament organizer/clan leader pm, it was copied to the affected parties. It was not private, and if you think it should have been, post it in C&A and stop crying here.

WOO GOO.

oh, is everyone having fun yet? i know i am.

[Iron Maid]

foe removed

Don't know why he had me on his foe list. probably tells more about him then about me.

[chemefreak]

foe removed

Don't know why he had me on his foe list. probably tells more about him then about me.

Perhaps you wouldn't let him videotape? That will get you on the foe list for sure.

All Hail Sex God Lukey!!!!!

[Iron Maid]

foe removed

Don't know why he had me on his foe list. probably tells more about him then about me.

Perhaps you wouldn't let him videotape? That will get you on the foe list for sure.

All Hail Sex God Lukey!!!!!

I doubt the guy can even hold a camera.

[chemefreak]

foe removed

Don't know why he had me on his foe list. probably tells more about him then about me.

Perhaps you wouldn't let him videotape? That will get you on the foe list for sure.

All Hail Sex God Lukey!!!!!

I doubt the guy can even hold a camera.

Probably not. All I can think is that is one lucky soccer ball...did Lukey take that photo?

[Dai_atan]

foe removed

Don't know why he had me on his foe list. probably tells more about him then about me.

Probably saw your avatar and decided you were trying to compete for his title of Sex God?

TOFU has not delayed.

Fact - Legion were the last to join the games (where joining was possible).
Fact - LFAW's foeing of Iron Maid is further delaying progress.

While I am going to try not get involved in you two posturing for male dominance in this thread I'd like to point out that the TOFU Home game I joined had only you in it for about 2 days and no other TOFU players, even though with in half a day of you posting it all my team were in....

Fact - Legion were the last to join the games (where joining was possible).

What does that mean? Isn't it always possible to join a game? isn't it necessary to join it to play? sorry that just confuses me, not trying to rip your statement apart or anything. Are you trying to say "where waiting to join was advantageous"?

Fact - LFAW's foeing of Iron Maid is further delaying progress.

Curious but who was the last member of TOFU to join this game? cause if it was iron maid then wouldn't it stand to reason that LFAW wouldn't have noticed until he tried to join in after all your boys were already in so as not to lose the fog "advantage" that all of a sudden is so important to everyone?

My advice is to just relax, both of you. Let it out in game, sate your anger by clicking a mouse to act out the rolling of a dice to vent your oh so manly testosterone and revel in your own magnificence.

Oh and Cheme, it's called a Tonne in metric, thats what we real people use to measure things

[Iron Maid]

foe removed

Don't know why he had me on his foe list. probably tells more about him then about me.

Perhaps you wouldn't let him videotape? That will get you on the foe list for sure.

All Hail Sex God Lukey!!!!!

I doubt the guy can even hold a camera.

Probably not. All I can think is that is one lucky soccer ball...did Lukey take that photo?

Think he "downloaded" it.

[Dai_atan]

Just an update on game starts for those too lazy to check
Legion start 12
Tofu 7
Once again not counting the single sets.

[LFAW]

F*ck off Iron Maid. I'm the sex god

You were foed for being one of my terminator unique kills, you would of been removed after I have my gold in it

Either way your pussy technique caused the delay and judging by your attitude there is probably a good reason why you should be on my foe anyway

Have a nice day now TOFU x

[Chariot of Fire]

You copied several people on your pm...thus it was no longer private, and obviously not privileged...just ask trap I sent our games to the right people. Dako is listed as the first contact for your fucking clan. He started the goddamn thread for f*ck's sake. I sent it to him and to the tournament creators. ToFU has delayed. There is no question about this.

It's not a question of whether the information is privileged. It was a PM and as such the content was intended for the recipients only. I didn't plaster your ridiculous PM of the other day (for which you later apologized) in any public forum. I would expect others to extend the same courtesy.

Is Dako listed as the first contact? That's odd, because in the Conqueror's Cup tourney thread it clearly states:

6. The Odd Fellows Union
- Leader: Chariot of Fire
- Secondary Contact: Dako

Whether Dako started this particular thread is irrelevant. Simple protocol was ignored when you excluded me from your addressees when games info was sent.

TOFU has not delayed.

Fact - Legion were the last to join the games (where joining was possible).
Fact - LFAW's foeing of Iron Maid is further delaying progress.

So maybe you should get your house in order before you make barbed comments such as "Anybody else think it is funny that now they give a f*ck about delay?"

This is the way the thread that Dako created read when I copied its contents the first time I saw it:

TOFU
- Primary Contact: Dako
- Secondary Contact: Chariot of Fire
++The Legion++
- Primary Contact: chemefreak
- Secondary Contact: ralphcptc
EMPIRE
- Tournament Organizer: Chuuuuck
- Tournament Organizer: TheSpaceCowboy

Well you're obviously not very good at copying are you, if that is indeed what you did at all.

Additionally, the rules are as follows:

Each clan should send their home games to the opposing clan by private message by the start day of the round. When games are sent, they must already be created, however, they do not have to be fully joined by home team yet. TheSpaceCowboy and myself should be copied in the private message sending each clans home games. This is not required but is highly recommended.

There is nothing in the rules about sending them to any person in particular, and at the time, I thought Dako was in charge.

I didn't quote the rules. I merely said it was protocol

I apologized to you for the tone of pm only after I reflected on it for a while and felt bad about calling you out as an idiot in front of so many people...now, after even further reflection, I rescind my apology, and only want to say I am sorry you are a fucking moron...and you will notice that I did not bother to put this in a "private" message.

You simply didn't like a password with spaces in it and became abusive. You then apologized. Now you rescind the apology, being the shallow person you are, and once more become foul-mouthed and abusive. You're not very decisive for someone in your profession are you.

As for the delay issue. We had joined all the games until we realized your clan was going to wait until the very last second to join them so you could get the first view of fog games and perhaps get a turn in before we had a chance to see them.

And just how would you know this to be the case? Perhaps it doesn't register in your tiny mind that a lot of our players have been away or are too busy to start new games prior to necessity. If you look at the make-up of our teams you might just notice that we have a lot of absentees and not until everybody's final agenda was known were we able to select the maps and teams that we did.

I feel that you are a bunch of pansies for doing this and recommend that our players join anyway. However, in every such game, our clan decided to have one player drop so as to not allow you that advantage.

So let me get this straight. We're a 'bunch of pansies' for joining late (a deliberate ploy in your mind) yet your very clan opted to do it on purpose. To say you recommended that your players joined, when in fact they joined last, are very hollow words indeed.

The funny thing is, you guys think this is going to be so easy (as you have stated several times), yet you have gone to such great lengths to gain even the smallest advantage. Cheap tactic. Very cheap.

Care to quote any statements where we've said this is going to be easy?

You delayed. If you guys had joined the games within a relatively reasonable time period, the foe list issue could have been dealt with quickly (as it was in this case) and before the deadline had expired. I am sick and tired of this shit. It took you guys two whole weeks to come up with dubs, trips, and quads on the same maps...seriously? Then you wait to join games, games you created and clearly knew who was going to be in them.

See my earlier comment re availability

As for the publicity of "private" messages...you have to be joking. There is no such rule or requirement. And that pm was not a tournament organizer/clan leader pm, it was copied to the affected parties. It was not private, and if you think it should have been, post it in C&A and stop crying here.

I never said there was a rule or requirement - you really should read things properly. I said it was discourteous. Having read your reply I can honestly say I'm not surprised anymore.

There's often a gentlemen's agreement in respect of fog games and this is widely practiced by THOTA, TSM & LoW (amongst others, I expect). Maybe it's something that can be considered for the next batch of games, though from the base language of your correspondence and the flaws in your argument it is quite clear you are neither a gentleman nor someone who is at all agreeable.

[chemefreak]

Maybe it's something that can be considered for the next batch of games, though from the base language of your correspondence and the flaws in your argument it is quite clear you are neither a gentleman nor someone who is at all agreeable.[/color]

I apologized because I thought we should be cordial. However, based on our interactions in this thread, I see no need for civility at this point. After all, you can't foe me until this thing is over.

The "fog agreement" has just caused drama between the clans who have tried it. So I doubt we need to even discuss it.

I am mildly agreeable in real life and sometimes a gentleman. However, chemefreak is pure evil. Just a pure abomination capable of malice beyond comprehension.

Oh, just for your consideration, putting your retorts in red did not make my arguments flawed, nor your retorts correct. All it did was show that you are intelligent enough to figure out how to work the boxes above the text box...Congratulations! Soon, with a lot of practice, you may learn how to make text bigger....or even smaller!!! Keep at it...

We are coming...

[Dako]

I am just curious, why do you want to find a flaw in our clan that badly so you use every small and little pseudo-mistake to blame us?

Do you want to dishonest us in front of CC community? I mean, really, what is the purpose besides having almighty fun yourself?

[chemefreak]

I am just curious, why do you want to find a flaw in our clan that badly so you use every small and little pseudo-mistake to blame us?

Do you want to dishonest us in front of CC community? I mean, really, what is the purpose besides having almighty fun yourself?

Look. I never wanted to blame anyone for anything. But you were listed as first contact (maybe in your first draft) in the main thread. When I sent the games out, CoF had a fit over where they went and blamed me for having it wrong...which he has done again in the red letters.

Every other Conqueror's Cup match started way before ours because of your clan's delay tactics. There was nothing wrong or dishonest about what you guys did...just admit that is what you were doing. Joining last gives you an advantage in fog games...so just admit it! Don't blame busy schedules, etc. on the tactic...because that is what it is...a tactic. Afterall, if schedules were an issue, you certainly wouldn't be waiting until 1:00 am Eastern time to join games!

Oh, and don't use your super MOD powers on me...I like my premium. Thanks.