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Postby Abishai on Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:08 pm

new to the site and still fining my way aroundd. Thanks to frins like Luns101 for the help. I was reading through some of the posts. MeDeFe hit the nail on the head ICHTHUS is the koine (common greek) that the NT was mostly written. anyhow it is the grrek word for fish. so over time someone made it into an acromyn,
I for Iesous (Jesus---Thayers Greek lexicon p. 300 Strong's #2424.)
CH for Christos (Christ---Thayer's p.672 Strong' 5547.)
TH for Theos (God---Thayers p.287 Strong's #2316.)
U for Uios (Son---Thayer' p.634 trong's #5207.)
S for Soter (Savior---Thayer's p.612 Strong's #4990.)
Long story short Jesus Christ God Son Savior. Fish Ichthus.
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The God Man deserves all the praise

Postby Abishai on Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:44 pm

I grew up in a Lutheran church and my parents were there with us every Sunday. But it meant nothing to me. growing up I was one of those types who was always choen last at sports, not cause was was not athletic but because I was always the outsider. At one point I comtemplated killing myself but then even though I did not know it God used my pride to harden myself against the idea when I thought of the homeless people living in boxes and I had a family who loved me. Then as aFreshman in high school my Sunday school teacher aid in Sunday school (when no one else showed up thta day.) that God had a special plan for me. I had never thought of God a one who wanted anything to do with my life. I thought as long a one believes in Him and tries there best all was good. The seeds planted in confirmation class about Jeus Christ the God Man were growing unknown to me and faith was already being worked into my selfish stone heart by the Holy Spirit. I left the Lutheran church as ajunior when they kicked the Pastor out and my Sunday school teacher left to work at a college in Wisconsin. The youth group dwindled, so a the request of a non christian friend I joined his youth group. Later I went to Supersummer at the request of my girlfriend even though I di not want to go. (ex now) One of the nights I clearly rememeber (once again under the working of the Holy Spirit.) thinking hey if I die I'm going to hell. The only thing I knew was Jesus was the answer. He could save so I aked Him to save me from hell. Boy has life changed. The more Jesus Christ reveals Himself through His word the more I realize thta I do not met His standards of getting into heaven. Perfection. The law condems me. It shows me more and more how in myself my actions are wicked I am SELFISH. But the the grace of God through Jesus Christ our Savior steps in and says my son. I gave you the law so you would realize your need for me. The God man Christ who lived a perfect life on my behalf and died on the cross and rose from the dead to proclaim the victory. So now I struggle through a Saint and a Sinner both at once. With the promise that one day He will redeem me from this fallen start and transform me into the image of Christ. "For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you will also appear with Him in glory. " (Col 3:3,4) The uniqueness of Christianity. Unlike religion in its efforts to please God. It is all about what God (Jesus Christ) did on our behalf to make us pleasing to God (the Father). Praise be to God "What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God-through Jesus Christ our Lord!" (Rom 7:24,25) Without Christ the world is lost, without Christ we donot know God now His ways. Praise be to Jesus Christ the God Man.
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Greatly encouraged

Postby luns101 on Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:17 pm

This is fantastic. These are the kinds of stories we need to hear to encourage each other in the faith. Lives changed by God. We've had a variety of people here give us their testimony.

Now...concerning sharing your faith.

What was the most unique experience you've had sharing the gospel with someone.

Mine was sharing the gospel with a guy who was a witch. It was very intense and only about a year after my own conversion. I'll go into details if you guys want, but suffice it to say that after he became a Christian he told me some fantastic stuff. The enemy knows who we are and he is watching us. Praise God that we are protected at times we don't even know when we are in danger.

"Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess" - Hebrews 4:14
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Postby Blueoctober on Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:20 pm

dam you guys are widely christian. not insulting you. just saying not many people beleive in wittchs anymore
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Postby s.xkitten on Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:30 pm

oh yes, those evil being who are possessed by the devil, and need to be purged from the earth... :roll:
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Postby Blueoctober on Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:37 pm

communists?
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Postby neutralbias on Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:39 pm

for whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my skae shall find it...christ is lord
Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
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Postby neutralbias on Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:42 pm

man gotta get that spellcheck fixed :!:
Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
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Postby Blueoctober on Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:46 pm

four score an seven years ago our fathers brought forth a new nation upon this continent, conceived in liberty and dedidcated to the propostitiont hat all men are created equal.

go on and do your thing
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Postby s.xkitten on Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:59 pm

to be or not to be, that is the question
whether 'tis normal in the mind to suffer
the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
or take up arms against a sea of troubles
and by opposing, end them
to die, to sleep-

stupid english class
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Postby Blueoctober on Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:42 pm

Eagerly I wished the morrow; - vainly I had sought to borrow
From my books surcease of sorrow - sorrow for the lost Lenore -
For the rare and radiant maiden whom the angels named Lenore -

i happen to like english class
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Postby s.xkitten on Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:45 pm

oh, its not that i don't like it...i just happen to think that spending two months on Hamlet is a little much, thats all :wink:
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Postby Blueoctober on Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:47 pm

ok hamlet sucks but the poetry part is good
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Postby s.xkitten on Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:59 pm

and there is god in hamlet, so you can't say we're off topic... :wink:
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I believe in My Lord and Savoir Jesus Christ

Postby vchef69 on Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:29 am

My Christian walk with the Lord has been only 3 years and I have a deep love and burning fire to learn more and become more like Jesus every day. People like to attack and persecute Us believers but thats O.K. they did also Jesus. I know what my future holds do they ? I'll share with my fellow believers my testimony at a date and time that only the Lord knows !! Soon !!!!!!!!! In The love of Christ, Vchef69
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Christ in the OT.

Postby Abishai on Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:40 pm

Brothers I write to us encourage us in the Faith. Backglass had a good point with the Iraq thing as christians we often times hear something cool, but do not stop to think thru what the Bible says about things. Not that I am saying that email was in error , I don't know anything about Iraq and its geographical location compared to the things talked about in that email.
I do write about the error that was in his post. If he wants to use the Bible lets let it speak in all his points and not let his personal biasis skew his thinking. We must do this as well. I quote the error.

"To identify the figure in the furnace as Jesus is anachronistic. There is no Jesus named anywhere in the Old Testament. It is only by interpretation that we get any references to or about Jesus in the Old Testament, and those are always colored by certain theological slants."
While yes it is true that Jesus' name is not mentioned in the OT. I do believe He was the one in the firey furnace though. It is miss leading to say that He is not there and to make it sound that any interpretation that He is in colored. This is where I say Let scripyure interprete itself. So let us start with the one whom scripture is really all about.
Lk 24:25-27. luke tells us that Jesus says "He said to them, 'How foolish you are, and how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken! Did not the Christ have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?' " Luke then goes on to tell us "And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself." Jesus also said in verse 44 " 'This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms."
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Christ II

Postby Abishai on Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:10 am

While we are on Luke this is what he says Peter says. (Acts 2:30-35) "But he" (speaking about King David see verse 29) "was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne. Seeing what was ahead, he spoke of the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to the grave, nor did his body see decay. God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of the fact."
Or Acts 3:18, 24 “But this is how God fulfilled what he had foretold through all the prophets, saying that his Christ would suffer.” And “ ‘Indeed, all the prophets from Samuel on, as many as have spoken, have foretold these days…’ “Luke also writes “The people of Jerusalem and their rulers did not recognize Jesus, yet in condemning him they fulfilled the words of the prophets that are read every Sabbath.” (Acts 13:27)
Now we move from Luke to John’s testimony. This is what he tells us Philip said to Nathanael. “ ‘We have found the one Moses wrote about in the Law, and about whom the prophets also wrote-Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.’ “(John 1:45) In John 12:37-40 John quotes from scripture (they only had the OT at this point in history the disciples had not written the NT when these historical events were happening.) telling us the words of Isaiah the prophet then he tells us in verse 41 why he wrote them. “Isaiah said this because he saw Jesus’ glory and spoke about him.” John also records for us what Jesus says “ “You diligently study the scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.’ “(John 5:39)
But still the scripture says more the author of Hebrews (My belief is Paul, but that is surround by much debate.) tells about Moses, “He chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than to enjoy the pleasures of in for a short time. He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward.” (Hebrews 11:13, 25, 26.
Still we have more, Peter has testified in 2 Peter 1:19-21, that “we have the word of the prophets made more certain, ... “and “Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.” Peter also says this “Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace that was to come to you, searched intently and with the greatest care, trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit in them was pointing when he predicted the suffering of Christ and the glories that would follow.”
This is all just NT passages. What about the sacrifices and the law and the Passover in Egypt or even the rock that followed the Israelites in the desert (Exodus 17:6; Numbers 20:2-12; 1 Corinthians 10:4.) or the sign of Jonah. The OT is filled with Christ.
The scripture make it clear that Christ is the focus of scripture and the redemption of man. He is in both testaments old and new. Because we do not see his name does not mean He is not present. He is, He was and He always is. So let us make our lives the same all about Christ Jesus.
ALL PRAISE TO JESUS CHRIST THE GOD MAN.
I tried not to write a box or to so I shortened it considerably. It the preacher in me.)
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Postby Unit_2 on Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:14 am

hey i have a question, how is god "The GOD"? there were people before him so hiow is he the god? i don't get it.. CIVs were all ready and all that before him...
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Postby jay_a2j on Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:24 am

Unit_2 wrote:hey i have a question, how is god "The GOD"? there were people before him so hiow is he the god? i don't get it.. CIVs were all ready and all that before him...



"I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end" No man existed before God.
THE DEBATE IS OVER...
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Postby Aradhus on Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:24 am

Sometimes, now and again, I become a little apathetic, a little detached. I ponder the absurdity of life and I ask myself, "what's it all about?". It is topics like this that convince me, without a doubt, that life is all about making morons suffer. Causing unspeakable agonies upon the simpletons of this meagre little planet. And I know that when I come once again to this conclusion, god would be pleased. And he will smile up at me for I give my life meaning.
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Favorite Apostle.

Postby Abishai on Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:36 am

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I would have to say my favorite apostle is Paul, even thought he was not one of the 12 that walked with Christ he fits the bill because Christ did appear to him. (Acts 9) The reason is this, the passion and tenaciousness he shows inspire me. Look at Philippians 3. "I consider evrything rubbish for the sake of Christ that I may be found in Him not having a righteosness of my own but that which comes through Christ the righteousness that comes by faith."
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A link of interest

Postby luns101 on Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:15 pm

For some reason, after reading MR. NATE's posts in this and other foums, I remembered some funny Jesus videos produced by vintage21

I think most of the world has mis-information about who Jesus is, what he taught, and what his followers believe because they just don't read the Bible. This video sort of represents that misconception. I think you all will enjoy it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8019746541
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Postby unriggable on Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:17 pm

Okay I gotta interupt real quick: has anybody read the book Jane Eyre? Who would you consider to be a 'truer' christian: Mr. Brocklehurst, or Helen?
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Other funny videos

Postby luns101 on Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:28 pm

OK, there are 3 others as well:

Christianity is just for people who like to impose rules and never have fun:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8453744931

Jesus is just a figurehead and doesn't really have time for individual people:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8647893860

Christians really just want your $$:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... +21+videos

Enjoy
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Postby Blueoctober on Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:07 pm

completely off topic but have any of you seen God Inc. on youtube
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