The Dawn Of Ages - Quenched

by **natty dread** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:02 pm

Although I think the bows still look like letter b:s, I also agree.

by **RjBeals** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:58 pm

agree. well done.

by **Kabanellas** on Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:27 am

Thanks RJ.

Ok! let's make it official- this is the chosen one:

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by **RjBeals** on Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:47 am

Yes. This map is ready for FF.

by **AndrewB** on Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:00 pm

by **natty dread** on Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:05 pm

here you go

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*__GFX__*
*_STAMP_*
* _______*
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by **ghirrindin** on Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:18 pm

Nope. Not ready. One of the Sea Dragon's functions reads "can bonbard Raiders' Haven."

by **natty dread** on Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:02 pm

ghirrindin wrote:Nope. Not ready. One of the Sea Dragon's functions reads "can bonbard Raiders' Haven."

Such things can be fixed in the final forge

by **Kabanellas** on Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:14 pm

ghirrindin wrote:Nope. Not ready. One of the Sea Dragon's functions reads "can bonbard Raiders' Haven."

hummm... maybe my English isn't that good.. but I don't see any error there..

P.S. - Thanks Natty for that elegant Stamp!!!

by **ghirrindin** on Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:00 pm

It's a total nitpick -- it's true.

Bombard is spelled with an N instead of an M in that one instance. It's something you can easily correct in a later update.

by **thenobodies80** on Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:01 pm

Hello Kab,

I have few suggestions for you:

The outer black border looks very jagged in some points (highlighted in green, see the spoiler below), could you make it smoother?
Khnum gateway entry, i think you should move the army circle to the right side of the gate, not to have it on Nekhbet.
How Forest of Logoth looks like with 888 in the small version?
On your small version (not updated), you have Wastelands and Eke circles very close to the right edge, it might be a problem with colour codes activated/888

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Time to update the small version, the Final Forge is around the corner

Nobodies

by **Kabanellas** on Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:17 am

Done! The final versions of both small and large maps. =D>

Nobodies, I can’t make those edge lines any smother... they are vectors with anti-aliasing and maximum smoothness applied. (sorry :cry:

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-Changed Khun Gateway entry army circle
-Rearranged Forest of Logoth army circles
-Moved Eke and Wastelands Army circles

Large Map Version 22

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Small Map Version 22

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by **natty dread** on Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:25 am

Nobodies, I can’t make those edge lines any smother... they are vectors with anti-aliasing and maximum smoothness applied.

Sure you can. If they are vectors, export them as a bitmap, then apply a convolution filter on them.

by **Kabanellas** on Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:35 pm

Not with bitmap natty, or you’ll lose the Alpha channel / transparency... I did export them as PNG to Photoshop and smooth it by hand...

This is the best I could do.... not sure if its better - Honestly I prefer the previous version...

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by **natty dread** on Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:46 pm

I didn't mean bitmap as in a BMP file, I meant a bitmap as opposed to vector graphics. PNG is also a bitmap format.

Try a convolution filter. I've found it to be a good way to smooth lines and other small & thin things. I can't remember what it's called in photoshop, but it has this grid of 7 x 7 numbers which you can modify... you put the center number something like 11, the 8 numbers next to it 1, and all the others 0. Then set the divider into a total of all the numbers, and you should get a the lines smoothed nicely. You can adjust the central number and the divider until you're satisfied with the result.

by **Kabanellas** on Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:35 pm

Natty, maybe you could give it a try....

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http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/Vectors.png

by **natty dread** on Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:53 pm

Of course! Just a minute...

by **thenobodies80** on Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:00 pm

What natty suggested could be a good solution, but i think you should apply it on the whole borders and not just parts of them because otherwise you might notice a difference

by **natty dread** on Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:25 pm

Ok here's my first try... all of the lines didn't come out as I expected, but they can be finetuned... but see if they align first.

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by **natty dread** on Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:33 pm

Here's another shot. For this, I took the original lines, resized them 2x with bicubic resampling, applied a convolution filter, then shrunk them back to original size with supersampling, and applied another convolution filter. This didn't grow the line thickness as much as the first try, but might have left some pixelation... :-k

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Btw, put the line layer in multiply mode when you add them to your image, this reduces some of the pixelation and makes the lines look smoother...

by **porkenbeans** on Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:52 pm

Sorry natty, but all you did was manage to blur the lines. this may seem to smooth them out a little, but the jagged lines are still there.

by **natty dread** on Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:11 pm

porkenbeans wrote:Sorry natty, but all you did was manage to blur the lines. this may seem to smooth them out a little, but the jagged lines are still there.

It will look better when you blend them with multiply mode on the map. Probably. Worked for my map anyway...

Anyway there's not much else that can be done to them without redrawing them from scratch. They should be drawn with anti-alias from the beginning...

by **porkenbeans** on Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:23 pm

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by **natty dread** on Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:31 pm

You have pixelation there as well...

by **natty dread** on Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:44 pm

OK this might work:

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