Zombie Mafia - Day Four - Zombies win, Ga7 survives

by **MountainLion** on Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:13 pm

So be it...

Vote Gimpy

by **gimpyThewonder** on Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:36 pm

and since the game is over I will re-iterate: I was telling the truth

by **gimpyThewonder** on Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:52 pm

Also Koesen is going to explain How Mandy turned Zombie but was still communicative w/ his fellow Masons.

But I will say well played to the zombie hordes, you guys whupped us pretty good.

by **Koesen** on Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:02 pm

ENDGAME

As Gimpy was dragged from his hiding place, he resigned himself to the inevitable. "Et tu, Mandy?" he spoke, figuring that famous last words were all that was left to him.

When he was dead, the Zombie King Nagerous raised a bony claw and pointed straight to the place where / had barricaded himself. It took Nagerous, Mountainlion, F1fth and Mandy an hour to break down the door and 13.7 seconds to rip / apart.

Zombies win. Ga7 survives. All will be explained when I have more time.

Thanks for playing!

by **colton24** on Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:39 pm

Wow. I had all, but one of the zombie's right

by **Serbia** on Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:47 pm

Told ya! Lynch Nag, lynch scum.

by **MountainLion** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:39 am

I knew Nag was scum too!... from the first moment he bit me, which was day 2 I believe. Funny how I was investigated on night 1. I questioned Colton's claim as watcher because I was a watcher too, except I was a day watcher.

I sank my zombie teeth into / , Double Voter on night 2, and then had a Talapus late night snack on night 3

Well done Koesen, thanks for inviting me back to the mafia. It was fun. And thanks to Nagerous for recruiting me to the winning team.

Why did you recruit me first anyway?

by **mandalorian2298** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:41 am

Good game all. Thank you for recruiting me to the winning side Nag, I sure couldn't win any other way since I was completely lost. So lost in fact, that on the last day I figured / is most likely to be my fellow Zombie. #-o

Also, I thought that Talapus is Daytime SK.

Gimpy, you would be able to tell that I'm a Zombie had game gone on for another night, because I was forbidden from PMing my fellow Masons. Anyway, I'm sorry that I betrayed and we lynched you and than played merry games with your corpse and I'm especially sorry for that awful thing that Zombie King Nagerus did with your...well you probably don't want to know anyway. :twisted:

by **nagerous** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:54 am

colton24 wrote:Wow. I had all, but one of the zombie's right

Pity you didn't say when you were alive eh? and it wasn't hard to guess the zombies, we did have a majority. :lol:

by **nagerous** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:23 am

mandalorian2298 wrote:Good game all. Thank you for recruiting me to the winning side Nag, I sure couldn't win any other way since I was completely lost. So lost in fact, that on the last day I figured / is most likely to be my fellow Zombie. Also, I thought that Talapus is Daytime SK.

Gimpy, you would be able to tell that I'm a Zombie had game gone on for another night, because I was forbidden from PMing my fellow Masons. Anyway, I'm sorry that I betrayed and we lynched you and than played merry games with your corpse and I'm especially sorry for that awful thing that Zombie King Nagerus did with your...well you probably don't want to know anyway.

I didn't actually recruit you, koesen randomly PMed me saying you had joined the fold the previous night, but you were very welcome to join

I'm sure he'll explain the mechanics behind it once he is online. Hope everyone enjoyed the game by the way, I certainly had fun haha.

by **nagerous** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:26 am

MountainLion wrote: Why did you recruit me first anyway?

Pretty randomly really, but I saw you as the kind of guy that was unlikely to get himself lynched.

by **Koesen** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:53 am

Mandy was the only zombie not actively recruited by Nag. He walked into the zombie lair all by himself.

The roles:

1. LSU - Day Time Vig
2. PCM - Elite Bodyguard
3 F1fth - All or Nothing Guy
4 Mountainlion - Day Time Watcher
5 Fircoal/Safariguy 2.0 - Paranoid CCTV Guy
6 Iliad, /2.0 - Cop
7 Ga7 - JOAT
8 Mandy - Explorer
9 Nag - Zombie King
10 Cowboyz , / - Double Voter
11 Serbia - Roleblocker
12 Happy2seeyou/Gimpy - Mason Recruiter
13 Colton24 - Watcher
14 Safariguy5 - Tracker
15 Captainwalrus - Vig
16 Talapus - Doc

As announced in the invitation, which some people appear to have forgotten in the heat of playing, there were a few unusual roles in this game.

The Paranoid CCTV guy would record people visiting him on his cameras, and get the results the following night. If he died, town would find his recordings and get a list of everyone who visited him in the correct order, but without their exact actions. I put him in as a variation of the Paranoid Gun Owner, which in my opinion makes the game too much of a lottery.

The All or Nothing Guy was a kind of vig. Each night, he tagged another player with a pound of C4 explosives. During the day, if he had two people tagged, he had to decide whether to kill both of them or keep them both alive. Then, he started over.

The Explorer is pretty much what I fake claimed in the Reinquisition game. Each night, he travelled in one of eight directions. In seven directions, he would find some sort of bonus (one shot kill, one shot self protection, cell phone to join the mason network) which would be handed out to a townie chosen by random.com. Each gift would go to a different townie. In the eight direction was the zombie lair, which is where Mandy ended up in the last night.

The Zombie King could zombify players during the day. He had no night abilities, but at night every zombie recruit could kill someone. The problem for the zombies was that only Nagerous knew who they all were. All recruits only knew Nagerous, which created the possibility of zombies attacking each other. Had that happened, they would have died the following night from the inflicted wounds.

Since the game leaned heavily on the wellbeing of the Zombie King in the first few days, he had several layers of protection which decayed as the game progressed. To kill him on Day One would have required a combination of a lynch and a Day Kill. By Day three, though, he was as vulnerable as a mafia goon in a normal game.

Initially, things went quite well for town. Nagerous was unexpectedly busy in the final 48 hours of Day One and missed his recruitment. Hence the absence of the Bloodcurdling Scream on Day One. He asked me if he could be cheeky and get his recruitment in Night One, but I refused, though at this point I was worried the game might end before it began, as I had never contemplated the possibility that there might not be a Day One recruitment.

After that, however, everything that could go wrong for town did, whereas just about nothing went wrong for the zombies. Each vig kill, of which there were many, targeted a townie. You can thank Talapus for reducing the damage by protecting Colton in Night One. Even so, the vigs killed more townies than the zombies did.

The zombies, meanwhile, never attacked each other and were never stopped by any of the pro town protection mechanisms. Mountainlion was investigated twice and roleblocked once in Night One, when he was still a townie. After that, nobody came near him anymore. Nagerous was roleblocked in Night Two, I believe, but that had no effect, since he had no night action.

I was sure f1fth's attack on Colton would fail since Ga7 had announced he would protect him. When it looked like Ga7 might be unable to play because of the earthquake, I decided I would let him prtect Colton as he said he would, and then cryogenically freeze him until his return or removal from the game. At the last possible moment, though, Ga7 sent in his night action, which to my surprise was a tracking of Colton instead of a protection. I guess he must have suspected him, but it proved fatal for Colton and put another nail in the town's coffin.

Mandy's self zombification, which was probably the final straw, only had a 13% chance of happening, but it did. He did not cheat, as he wasn't informed of his zombification until dawn, and it was the next night he was ordered to shut up.

What Mandy did not know, was that PCM found his bloodstained purse with the initials 'M the X' and a rusty icepick in it, which was good for one day kill. At this point, there was still a bit of a chance for town, cause Ga7, Serbia and Gimpy all knew they were townies, and with a little time might have convinced PCM to kill someone else. /'s investigation of Serbia could have helped a lot there. Unfortunately, PCM misinterpreted Serbia's post in which he correctly identified Nag and F1fth as zombies, probably because he himself was accused as well. He sent in his Day Kill of Serbia before / made his investigation result public, which sunk whatever was left of town's chances.

When the number of zombies became equal to the number of townies, we went to the Sortie scenario. Serbia was still alive when I sent out the first message, but I received his kill before I got to the second. Again, that severly reduced town's sortie chances.

In the sortie, the townies had the choice of running out through exit Alpha or Omega, or staying put. If they chose to run, they could choose to cover another townies run or to run for themselves.

The zombies in turn were asked to pick an exit as a hunting zone.

In the Alpha direction, any surviving townie would find LSU's bloodstained daykilling device (the bangbangthoc machine). In the Omega direction, there was a motorcycle with the keys in it that would carry one townie to safety.

Gimpy and / stayed where they were. Serbia was going to sacrifice himself at the Alpha gate, but was killed by PCM before he got there. PCM chose to sacrifice himself at the Omega gate, where Ga7 decided to try to save himself.

Nag and Mandy hunted at the Alpha exit, where no townies showed up. The other zombies were drawn to PCM at the Omega exit, killed him and lost LSU, and let Ga7 escape because they were distracted.

The basic idea for this game was to mimick the way zombie invasion start out small and then quickly snowball out of control. In order to allow the townies to fight on even if they were outnumbered, I gave them a lot of vig options. So if the zombies had been cocky and revealed themselvesd when they thought they controlled the lynch, the day vigs could have wreaked havoc. Alas, it all backfired...

by **Koesen** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:58 am

The actions:

Day One

- Mountainlion watches Mandalorian
- LSU kills Safariguy
- Nagerous fails to send in a recruitment PM

Night One

-Mandy goes West, finds plate mail suit for Gimpy.
-Colton watches Serbia
-Iliad investigates Mountainlion
-F1fth tags Mountainlion with C4
-Ga7 investigates ML
-Gimpy recruits Mandy
-CW kills Colton
-Talapus protects Colton
-Serbia blocks ML
-Pancakemix - no action

*** Mountainlion C4
*** Gimpy safe suit

Day Two

Mountainlion watches Colton
Nagerous zombifies Mountainlion
LSU kills Captainwalrus

Night Two

Colton watches Safariguy
Ga7 kills Safariguy
PCM protects Ga7
Serbia blocks Nag
Mountainlion bites /
Talapus protects Colton.
iliad investigates Ga7
Mandy N (Cell phone to Ga7)
Gimpy protects himself
F1fth tags LSU

Day Two

Nag recruits F1fth
LSU kills Captainwalrus

Night 3

F1fth attacks Colton
Talapus protects /
colton watch LSU
/ investigates Serbia
ML kills Talapus
Mandy NW, becomes a zombie.
PCM protects Ga7
Serbia blocks PCM
Ga7 tracks Colton

Day Four
Nagerous recruits LSU
PCM kills Serbia

Sortie:
PCM (T) covers Omega. - LSU (Z) hunts at Omega.
Mountainlion: Omega
Fifth: Omega
Ga7 Omega for himself.

Serbia (T) covers Alpha (but dies before he gets there).
Nagerous: Alpha
Mandy: Alpha

/ Stays behind.
Gimpy stays.

by **F1fth** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:49 am

Good game all. That PCM was in the position he was in was no accident. After I had been recruited, I went out of my way to defend and associate myself with him, who I perceived to be a town player, so when the accusations flew, he'd be on our side because he himself was getting accused as well. It worked out all too perfectly when he ended up getting rid of Serbia for us.

I'm surprised ML was scum. I, like, Mandy though that / was my scum buddy because of how Nag changed votes and I wonder why he chose to pursue Gimpy on the last day when / would have been a much easier lynch after my fake claim? I guess it worked out in the end though 8-)

by **Koesen** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:42 am

As an avid fan of ballsy scum plays, I was very amused by your fake claim. Even / seemed to doubt himself =D>

I could have gone to the endgame earlier, but decided to see how the lynch would work out when the zombies didn't know each other. As a result, this may well be the only game in the history of this site in which there was only one lynch and it was 100% scum fueled

If anybody has questions or comments, I'd love to hear them.

by **Koesen** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:48 am

Nag was lucky with his recruitments, by the way. Mountainlion was certainly one of the biggest threats to him in the early stages and the only one who could have collected solid evidence against him on Day One.

When Day Three began, F1fth could have blown up what was at that point the entire zombie minion squad, but Nagerous got to him first.

LSU was another serious danger, but by the time Nagerous could recruit his third minion, LSU's role was pretty clear and I would have been surprised if he had picked anybody else.

by **nagerous** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:24 pm

Thanks for running the game, Koesen it was very enjoyable and I admit I had a lot of luck in the victory being so easy. I too thought I would be screwed after missing the first day one recruit, but things went my way and the zombie invasion escalated very rapidly!

by **safariguy5** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:26 pm

Wow, some crazy roles in this one. Guess I was wrong about colton. Also, that second role absolutely killed me.

by **Koesen** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:32 pm

Town got a little too gung ho with you. The people who used to play with me should have known I might come up with some never seen before roles, especially cause I said I would in the invitation.

By the way, I only modded one game before. It did not have PCM and it didn't have fake claims for scum.

by **MountainLion** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:57 pm

nagerous wrote:Thanks for running the game, Koesen it was very enjoyable and I admit I had a lot of luck in the victory being so easy. I too thought I would be screwed after missing the first day one recruit, but things went my way and the zombie invasion escalated very rapidly!

I don't know if you could answer this, but Nagerous, did you have any ideas as to who you may have recruited on Day 1 if you had gotten it in?

I think it's also funny how everyone had suspicions on me in questioning Colton's role when I was actually a Watcher as well. Did you guys really think I was so clueless? Also at that time I was town and I didn't want to give my role away, so I decided to make it sound like I was a little clueless by mentioning there were screams during the day and perhaps Colton could be a day watcher...in which case I would have counter-claimed him. In other words, I was VERY close to claiming at that time, but decided to hold it in.

by **mandalorian2298** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:15 pm

Fantastic game Koesen. =D>

Great roles, wild gameplay and it's obvious that you have put a lot of thought into balancing it. More! More!

I have begun to notice a pattern in my games: when I play well, I have a good winning chances; when I play poorly I have good losing chances; but when I play like a complete moron I am freaking invincible! :mrgreen:

Therefore, I must try to bafoon more in the games to come. :idea:

by **nagerous** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:06 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:Fantastic game Koesen. Great roles, wild gameplay and it's obvious that you have put a lot of thought into balancing it. More! More!

I have begun to notice a pattern in my games: when I play well, I have a good winning chances; when I play poorly I have good losing chances; but when I play like a complete moron I am freaking invincible! Therefore, I must try to bafoon more in the games to come.

Mandy, I found you on youtube!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKO0RrM7LvI

and MountainLion, ironically I'd probably have still recruited you which would have ended badly for me!! So maybe missing the day one recruit was a blessing in disguise.

by **Koesen** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:51 pm

I do have a few more ideas, actually

by **Koesen** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:29 pm

These are some of the ideas I've been toying with. Let me know which sound most interesting.

* Zombie sequel
Here, zombies are town and a small team of human adventurers attempts to take it back. In terms of game mechanics, it would probably be different from this game.

* WWI
A game with two equal factions and maybe a small 3rd party. Similar to LSU's civil war game, but with its own unique elements. I'd need more players for this. At least 20.

* Medway Disaster mafia
Announced way back when, this is more a standard mafia game, NV, set in the 17th century during the Anglo-Dutch wars.

* Dungeon crawl mafia
Inspired by MMORPGs, with a small group of adventurers moving through a monster infested dungeon. This is not more than a rough idea right now, but I think it might be fun. I could merge this with the zombie sequel.

* Viking wars
A faction game with a twist I'm not going to reveal just yet.

by **ga7** on Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:21 pm

Seeing the complete role list I find it quite interesting that so many roles could have been decisive for town, which means a lot in terms of balance. At the end it fitted quite well the setting, great job Koesie =D>

I'm slightly disappointed that seeing so much potential town just went and took the "wrong" decision at every opportunity there was to kill a zombie, which led to the easy zombie victory. Then again I somehow survived and guessed F1fth (albeit for the wrong reasons) and Nag as zombies so I'm happy I didn't get too rusty

was sure Colton was recruited though

I guess the only way there could have been a meaningful difference in the last day was if Mandy hadn't fumbled upon a 1 on an 8 die (seriously, I never saw so much dumb luck since Kwanton) :lol:

I'd love to play a zombie sequel but it might be better to leave some time between the two games. Out of your other ideas I find most interesting Medway Disaster (just for the out there theme that would hopefully cause me to research on it to find the awesome fake claim of Helke van Dyke, the dutch Saber Queen :shock: