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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby spiesr on Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:54 pm

Rainbow Eater wrote:There is three factions besides the peasants. why was only one person killed? I know he was targeted by two factions, but why no action by the third? or maybe there was and someone did something about it?
It is possible The Havana mob and The Batista Regime might not both have killing powers.
captainwalrus wrote:The Havana mob calls the hits. they get a night kill, like a normal mafia, but they loose if they are eliminated, or if Batista's Regime is eliminated.

Batista's regime are the people who steal and beat up on the peasants, using various roles which I will not disclose yet. They win if the 26th of july movement is eliminated.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby safariguy5 on Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:34 pm

lhcguy wrote:
spiesr wrote:
naxus wrote:About his claim, I think its total BS.We lynched a Peasant day one and NK another one.Theres only what 12ish people in this game, so by claiming VT your almost assured a night kill against yourself as if you are a VT and they NK you then there would be only 1, or 2 or maybe even none left of the VT.
Why would either side purposefully target a vanilla peasant for a night kill? The scum would rather kill a member of the revolution and the revolution would rather kill a scum member.
captainwalrus wrote:Vote count.
Vodean 4 - Rainbow Eater, Colton, lhcguy, spiser
UTA 1 - Safari
Rainbow Eater 1 - ???
Did anyone else notice this bit here? Looks like a secret voter/double voter/politician. Is anyone missing their vote?


Uhm, no haven't noticed it. Very strange.. but why would a secret voter voter for Rainbow? If the secret voter is evil, he would have waited and placed the last vote on Voden (If vodean is not evil himself). If ??? is good, he might be the seer and point us towards Rainbow. But.. rather strange thing either way.


FYI, a cop (seer) and a double voter in the same role is incredibly powerful in such a small game and unlikely due to the triple faction setup. It would unbalance the sides.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby Rainbow Eater on Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:43 pm

safariguy5 wrote:
lhcguy wrote:
spiesr wrote:
naxus wrote:About his claim, I think its total BS.We lynched a Peasant day one and NK another one.Theres only what 12ish people in this game, so by claiming VT your almost assured a night kill against yourself as if you are a VT and they NK you then there would be only 1, or 2 or maybe even none left of the VT.
Why would either side purposefully target a vanilla peasant for a night kill? The scum would rather kill a member of the revolution and the revolution would rather kill a scum member.
captainwalrus wrote:Vote count.
Vodean 4 - Rainbow Eater, Colton, lhcguy, spiser
UTA 1 - Safari
Rainbow Eater 1 - ???
Did anyone else notice this bit here? Looks like a secret voter/double voter/politician. Is anyone missing their vote?


Uhm, no haven't noticed it. Very strange.. but why would a secret voter voter for Rainbow? If the secret voter is evil, he would have waited and placed the last vote on Voden (If vodean is not evil himself). If ??? is good, he might be the seer and point us towards Rainbow. But.. rather strange thing either way.


FYI, a cop (seer) and a double voter in the same role is incredibly powerful in such a small game and unlikely due to the triple faction setup. It would unbalance the sides.


The double voter is pretty much guaranteed.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby safariguy5 on Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:57 am

Rainbow Eater wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:
lhcguy wrote:
spiesr wrote:
naxus wrote:About his claim, I think its total BS.We lynched a Peasant day one and NK another one.Theres only what 12ish people in this game, so by claiming VT your almost assured a night kill against yourself as if you are a VT and they NK you then there would be only 1, or 2 or maybe even none left of the VT.
Why would either side purposefully target a vanilla peasant for a night kill? The scum would rather kill a member of the revolution and the revolution would rather kill a scum member.
captainwalrus wrote:Vote count.
Vodean 4 - Rainbow Eater, Colton, lhcguy, spiser
UTA 1 - Safari
Rainbow Eater 1 - ???
Did anyone else notice this bit here? Looks like a secret voter/double voter/politician. Is anyone missing their vote?


Uhm, no haven't noticed it. Very strange.. but why would a secret voter voter for Rainbow? If the secret voter is evil, he would have waited and placed the last vote on Voden (If vodean is not evil himself). If ??? is good, he might be the seer and point us towards Rainbow. But.. rather strange thing either way.


FYI, a cop (seer) and a double voter in the same role is incredibly powerful in such a small game and unlikely due to the triple faction setup. It would unbalance the sides.


The double voter is pretty much guaranteed.

I know what you mean, I was saying one person being both a cop and a double voter is incredibly powerful.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby vodean on Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:01 am

Rainbow Eater wrote:
lhcguy wrote:
spiesr wrote:
naxus wrote:About his claim, I think its total BS.We lynched a Peasant day one and NK another one.Theres only what 12ish people in this game, so by claiming VT your almost assured a night kill against yourself as if you are a VT and they NK you then there would be only 1, or 2 or maybe even none left of the VT.
Why would either side purposefully target a vanilla peasant for a night kill? The scum would rather kill a member of the revolution and the revolution would rather kill a scum member.
captainwalrus wrote:Vote count.
Vodean 4 - Rainbow Eater, Colton, lhcguy, spiser
UTA 1 - Safari
Rainbow Eater 1 - ???
Did anyone else notice this bit here? Looks like a secret voter/double voter/politician. Is anyone missing their vote?


Uhm, no haven't noticed it. Very strange.. but why would a secret voter voter for Rainbow? If the secret voter is evil, he would have waited and placed the last vote on Voden (If vodean is not evil himself). If ??? is good, he might be the seer and point us towards Rainbow. But.. rather strange thing either way.



someone has two votes. that is why it is a ?? and not a name. if there was a vote stealer, the name would appear but the person would not have cast the vote.

I am guessing that Vodean is not who he claims he is.
i maintain my claim. there should be room for 4 more.

As for 1 night kill, maybe 1 for mafia as a whole, and none for 26th, as they are good guys. In the set-up there was no mention of a stealer. This might be normal. Maybe an unannounced savior?
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby naxus on Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:39 pm

spiesr wrote:
naxus wrote:About his claim, I think its total BS.We lynched a Peasant day one and NK another one.Theres only what 12ish people in this game, so by claiming VT your almost assured a night kill against yourself as if you are a VT and they NK you then there would be only 1, or 2 or maybe even none left of the VT.
Why would either side purposefully target a vanilla peasant for a night kill? The scum would rather kill a member of the revolution and the revolution would rather kill a scum member.
captainwalrus wrote:Vote count.
Vodean 4 - Rainbow Eater, Colton, lhcguy, spiser
UTA 1 - Safari
Rainbow Eater 1 - ???
Did anyone else notice this bit here? Looks like a secret voter/double voter/politician. Is anyone missing their vote?


Well since its pretty much confusing as hell out there the mafia wont kill anyone completley randomly and so I think theyd target someone there suspicious of.Cause why kill someone random who might be good/bad when you can kill a VT?

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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby spiesr on Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:31 am

vodean wrote:As for 1 night kill, maybe 1 for mafia as a whole, and none for 26th, as they are good guys. In the set-up there was no mention of a stealer. This might be normal. Maybe an unannounced savior?
What exactly do you mean when you refer to "an unannounced savior"? Do you mean such a role is stealing votes, or that it stopped a night kill, or what?
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby vodean on Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:20 pm

naxus wrote:
spiesr wrote:
naxus wrote:About his claim, I think its total BS.We lynched a Peasant day one and NK another one.Theres only what 12ish people in this game, so by claiming VT your almost assured a night kill against yourself as if you are a VT and they NK you then there would be only 1, or 2 or maybe even none left of the VT.
Why would either side purposefully target a vanilla peasant for a night kill? The scum would rather kill a member of the revolution and the revolution would rather kill a scum member.
captainwalrus wrote:Vote count.
Vodean 4 - Rainbow Eater, Colton, lhcguy, spiser
UTA 1 - Safari
Rainbow Eater 1 - ???
Did anyone else notice this bit here? Looks like a secret voter/double voter/politician. Is anyone missing their vote?


Well since its pretty much confusing as hell out there the mafia wont kill anyone completley randomly and so I think theyd target someone there suspicious of.Cause why kill someone random who might be good/bad when you can kill a VT?

Just my thoughts
well... in that case... who was targeting f1fth? :-s not sure about that one
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby vodean on Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:24 pm

spiesr wrote:
vodean wrote:As for 1 night kill, maybe 1 for mafia as a whole, and none for 26th, as they are good guys. In the set-up there was no mention of a stealer. This might be normal. Maybe an unannounced savior?
What exactly do you mean when you refer to "an unannounced savior"? Do you mean such a role is stealing votes, or that it stopped a night kill, or what?

i mean stopping a night kill. a LOT of role speculation for 12 of us...
referring to my last post, is that what you mean? killing people who suspected them? or who they suspected? what would they suspect people of?
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby safariguy5 on Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:42 pm

vodean wrote:
spiesr wrote:
vodean wrote:As for 1 night kill, maybe 1 for mafia as a whole, and none for 26th, as they are good guys. In the set-up there was no mention of a stealer. This might be normal. Maybe an unannounced savior?
What exactly do you mean when you refer to "an unannounced savior"? Do you mean such a role is stealing votes, or that it stopped a night kill, or what?

i mean stopping a night kill. a LOT of role speculation for 12 of us...
referring to my last post, is that what you mean? killing people who suspected them? or who they suspected? what would they suspect people of?


Stopping a night kill would probably mean either a doctor or a roleblocker.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby gregwolf121 on Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:14 am

safariguy5 wrote:
vodean wrote:
spiesr wrote:
vodean wrote:As for 1 night kill, maybe 1 for mafia as a whole, and none for 26th, as they are good guys. In the set-up there was no mention of a stealer. This might be normal. Maybe an unannounced savior?
What exactly do you mean when you refer to "an unannounced savior"? Do you mean such a role is stealing votes, or that it stopped a night kill, or what?

i mean stopping a night kill. a LOT of role speculation for 12 of us...
referring to my last post, is that what you mean? killing people who suspected them? or who they suspected? what would they suspect people of?


Stopping a night kill would probably mean either a doctor or a roleblocker.

didn't the scence say f1fth was shot then trampled, so two groups were trying to kill f1fth, i doubt that both scum groups would target the same player so i think we have a town vig
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby lhcguy on Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:52 am

gregwolf121 wrote:didn't the scence say f1fth was shot then trampled, so two groups were trying to kill f1fth, i doubt that both scum groups would target the same player so i think we have a town vig


It might have been flavour. Might have been that two groups tried. But why do you think that the scum groups wouldn't NK the same person? You think they can communicate? But two NKs from scum would be frightening.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby vodean on Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:17 pm

lhcguy wrote:
gregwolf121 wrote:didn't the scence say f1fth was shot then trampled, so two groups were trying to kill f1fth, i doubt that both scum groups would target the same player so i think we have a town vig


It might have been flavour. Might have been that two groups tried. But why do you think that the scum groups wouldn't NK the same person? You think they can communicate? But two NKs from scum would be frightening.

would be scary with two night kills, but it says one kills, the other steals and beats people up.
gregwolf121 wrote:didn't the scence say f1fth was shot then trampled, so two groups were trying to kill f1fth, i doubt that both scum groups would target the same player so i think we have a town vig
that would be interesting. i think thats colton!
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. replacement needed.

Postby naxus on Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:10 pm

Rainbow Eater wrote:you do realize the duality might be a town cop or some other pro town power role?



Id like to Vote Rainbow Eater

In my rereading of the last 15ish pages i realized that when the Duality BW happened that RE was against voting for the inactive player(duality) as he said that dual might be a pro town person(above quote).But in the Wercool BW he was the last 2-3 votes which hammered wer and only because of him being inactive.Suspicious to me
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby captainwalrus on Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:05 pm

Vote count.
Vodean 4 - Rainbow Eater, Colton, lhcguy, spiser
UTA 1 - Safari
Rainbow Eater 2 - ???, naxus

not voting: Gregwolf, UTA, /, vodean

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch, vodean is at l-2

Deadline set for sometime friday or saturday.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby spiesr on Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:08 pm

vodean wrote:would be scary with two night kills, but it says one kills, the other steals and beats people up.
One group steals huh? Well I think our mystery vote might just be a scum politician. Although nobody has reported their vote stolen, so maybe not.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:27 pm

spiesr wrote:
vodean wrote:would be scary with two night kills, but it says one kills, the other steals and beats people up.
One group steals huh? Well I think our mystery vote might just be a scum politician. Although nobody has reported their vote stolen, so maybe not.


I've played in the NV mafia game, and I'm pretty sure doublevoters get the ??? tag while if your vote was stolen, a red font was used to indicate the person who got his vote stolen. Pretty sure that's how it works.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby gregwolf121 on Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:10 pm

captainwalrus wrote:Vote count.
Vodean 4 - Rainbow Eater, Colton, lhcguy, spiser
UTA 1 - Safari
Rainbow Eater 1 - ???, naxus

not voting: Gregwolf, UTA, /, vodean

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch, vodean is at l-2

Deadline set for sometime friday or saturday.

doesnt re have 2 votes
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby captainwalrus on Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:29 pm

gregwolf121 wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:Vote count.
Vodean 4 - Rainbow Eater, Colton, lhcguy, spiser
UTA 1 - Safari
Rainbow Eater 1 - ???, naxus

not voting: Gregwolf, UTA, /, vodean

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch, vodean is at l-2

Deadline set for sometime friday or saturday.

doesnt re have 2 votes

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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby gregwolf121 on Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:39 pm

i thought editing a post wasn't allowed
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby captainwalrus on Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:42 pm

gregwolf121 wrote:i thought editing a post wasn't allowed

It is if your mod :twisted:
Mod can do anything.


Also, I am modding this on another site too, and you guys are much better. Their day one took forever, I had to threaten to modkill everyone who didn't post once every 24 hours and I put in a deadline before anyone even voted.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby gregwolf121 on Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:03 am

what other site
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby lhcguy on Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:44 am

I play also on boardgamegeek.com, games normally have a deadline once per day, leading to really high activity. Much more fun, but also much more time consuming, because you really should be there at lynch..
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. replacement needed.

Postby vodean on Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:11 am

naxus wrote:
Rainbow Eater wrote:you do realize the duality might be a town cop or some other pro town power role?



Id like to Vote Rainbow Eater

In my rereading of the last 15ish pages i realized that when the Duality BW happened that RE was against voting for the inactive player(duality) as he said that dual might be a pro town person(above quote).But in the Wercool BW he was the last 2-3 votes which hammered wer and only because of him being inactive.Suspicious to me

that makes a lot of sense. im still reserving judgment for later, with more evidence for someone.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby captainwalrus on Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:01 am

gregwolf121 wrote:what other site

the xkcd forums.
http://xkcd.com/ Go to forums, but I figured I would link the comic too cause it is hilarious.
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