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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby colton24 on Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:29 pm

lol. Well I have nothing to say except that vodean just scum failed.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby colton24 on Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:30 pm

captainwalrus wrote:Vote count.
Vodean 4 - Rainbow Eater, Colton, lhcguy, spieser
UTA 1 - Safari


Spiiser voted vodean
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby captainwalrus on Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:33 pm

With ten alive it takes 6 to lynch, Vodean is at l-2
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby spiesr on Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:51 pm

Specifically, UTAlan doesn't appear to have posted yet today. (Mod may want to do something here)
Also, we haven't heard much from naxus and gregwolf lately.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby safariguy5 on Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:26 pm

I'm still not sure about vodean, he can be a bit erratic. Until Alan weighs in on this situation, I'm not unvoting yet.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby naxus on Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:45 pm

Paying attention but not posting much as theres still no solid evidence against anyone here.Mostly just people preying on vodean for joining the Bandwagon yesterday
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby spiesr on Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:57 pm

Well, it would be nice you could contribute something to the game rather than simply submarinering. For example if you think really think vodean is innocent and those going after him are taking advantage of him for poor reasons then you should defend him or call those people out for their actions.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby captainwalrus on Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:49 pm

Vote count.
Vodean 4 - Rainbow Eater, Colton, lhcguy, spiser
UTA 1 - Safari
Rainbow Eater 1 - ???

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch, vodean is at l-2
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby Rainbow Eater on Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:35 pm

vodean wrote:
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vodean wrote:as for a claim, i claim TOWN!
You are aware, that that is not the sort of claim people will be looking for, and that in this game claiming "town" is absolutely meaningless as the game appears to consist of the scum groups, the revolution and the peasants?

OBVIOUSLY, town is peasants, as everyone else is mafia or cops... as for evidence, what do i have against F1fth. he never FOS'ed or foed me.



And which side is the mafia and which side is the cops. Since you are a peasant, you of course know this.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby vodean on Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:12 am

Rainbow Eater wrote:
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spiesr wrote:
vodean wrote:as for a claim, i claim TOWN!
You are aware, that that is not the sort of claim people will be looking for, and that in this game claiming "town" is absolutely meaningless as the game appears to consist of the scum groups, the revolution and the peasants?

OBVIOUSLY, town is peasants, as everyone else is mafia or cops... as for evidence, what do i have against F1fth. he never FOS'ed or foed me.



And which side is the mafia and which side is the cops. Since you are a peasant, you of course know this.

of course i do!
captainwalrus wrote:The Havana mob calls the hits. they get a night kill, like a normal mafia, but they loose if they are eliminated, or if Batista's Regime is eliminated.

Batista's regime are the people who steal and beat up on the peasants, using various roles which I will not disclose yet. They win if the 26th of july movement is eliminated.

The peasants are all vanilla townies. they win if the 26th of july movement wins

The 26th of july movements are a pro-town militant group. They can recruit people from the peasant group, and they win if Batista's regime is eliminated.


On another note: WHAT HAVE I DONE???

THIS BW IS A SCUM FAIL, COLTON, NOT MY REASONED ARGUMENTS!!!

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vodean wrote:oh, ok sorry. But if i did claim 26th movement, the members might take the risk of revealing themselves to kill me. Then id die anyway because my claim would be false...
As For the FOS, its because there is NO evidence against me, but im getting FOSed and Voted anyway. The worst are the ones who Fos'ed me, because they're all non-commital, and if they're scum and this BW fails, they can jump on the next one.
Well, yes it is generally considered pretty scummy lie about your claim. I mean there are certain instances where it would be okay for someone to keep some information secret, but this clearly would not be one of those times. Also, your argument that the people FOS'ing you are somehow worse than those voting you doesn't really seem to hold water.
You haven't really produced any reason for you not to be lynched I my eyes, so I will vote vodean. I would however like to hear more from those people who haven't posted today, or have posted very little...
Thats why i didnt lie. sorry, im still a bit new here. The reason why it is so bad is that they can add to a BW without being a part of it in the books, thus getting less attention, and will not be voted. OF COURSE, the others are bad, but they are conspicuous as elephants in a flock of geese.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby vodean on Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:22 am

I also have NO idea whatsoever how to defend myself. On day 1 wer made no defense. In my other game, i was town, and lynched day 1.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby lhcguy on Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:58 am

I still don't really see how to play a game without deadline. In another forum I play mafia, there is a deadline, and shortly before the deadline there is a huge ammount of discussion and activity going on. That helps to get scum-reads a lot. Here its just a waiting game.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby colton24 on Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:01 am

Vodean you shouldn't of hammered yesterday without reasoning. Should of gave wer a chance instead of hammering by jumping on the end of the BW
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby vodean on Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:42 am

colton24 wrote:Vodean you shouldn't of hammered yesterday without reasoning. Should of gave wer a chance instead of hammering by jumping on the end of the BW

IM sorry. i had just logged on and was a bit short of time. I DID give a reason. i was the firsts one to point out how wer had been defensive and a bit scummy. in my last post, i believe i did aswell. See, this is what i mean. You point fingers, but keep a low profile by not voting me! now THAT is scummy.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby UTAlan on Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:38 am

I apologize for my inactivity lately - my email notifications got turned off somehow.

Anyway, I'm pretty new to these online mafia games. During Day 0, I had no clue who was bad, nor how to detect if someone was. The best I could do was vote for someone that had a number of votes on them already and had yet to defend themselves.

As far as Day 1 goes, I'm worried that we've lost 2 peasants already. I am going to wait a little longer on voting to make sure we don't lose the game too quickly, but based on vodean's posts, I think I have to FOS vodean.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby colton24 on Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:09 pm

vodean wrote:
colton24 wrote:Vodean you shouldn't of hammered yesterday without reasoning. Should of gave wer a chance instead of hammering by jumping on the end of the BW

IM sorry. i had just logged on and was a bit short of time. I DID give a reason. i was the firsts one to point out how wer had been defensive and a bit scummy. in my last post, i believe i did aswell. See, this is what i mean. You point fingers, but keep a low profile by not voting me! now THAT is scummy.


Since when is voting somebody scummy?

You hammered too quickly and no you did not have a reason
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby spiesr on Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:30 pm

UTAlan wrote:As far as Day 1 goes, I'm worried that we've lost 2 peasants already.
Well, the good news there is that they were vanilla townie style peasants rather than potentially powerful members of the revolution or even powered peasants. Now if the revolution's recruiting abilities had been knocked out, then we would really be in trouble. For a game like this it seems like lynching a vanilla peasant day 1 and then having another killed night one doesn't seem to have been that bad of an outcome. I mean the odds of you actually lynching a scum on day one in a game like this has to be around like 1/4th on a good day? The deal is that from here on we need to start being successful at something, lynching a scum today, or the revolution having a success in their activities.
vodean wrote:See, this is what i mean. You point fingers, but keep a low profile by not voting me! now THAT is scummy.
Colton24 has voted for you. Don't accuse him of doing otherwise when it is fairly easy to look at the vote count. Also accusing everyone, or most of those, who accuse you is bad form and definitely not helping your case. Colton24 also happens to be guilty of this flaw from yesterday. Remember how well that went?
vodean wrote:I also have NO idea whatsoever how to defend myself.
Well your general behavior has appeared rather scummy, so it is hard to defend everything you have done like that. In the future try to alter your play style in a manner where you won't be seen as scummy in general. Look at other games and pay attention to the people who posted quite a bit yet were not seriously suspected. Try to glean a little from how they played. Then you likely won't be gone after as much until people have a more solid reason. Then you just have to find a way to counter that point and if you do that and aren't seen as generally scummy you might get off the hook.
vodean wrote:On day 1 wer made no defense.
And look how well that worked out for him.
vodean wrote:In my other game, i was town, and lynched day 1.
Technically you were third party. Your erratic and generally poorly thought out behavior in that other game gives you an example of what to avoid in future games.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby vodean on Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:52 pm

colton24 wrote:
vodean wrote:
colton24 wrote:Vodean you shouldn't of hammered yesterday without reasoning. Should of gave wer a chance instead of hammering by jumping on the end of the BW

IM sorry. i had just logged on and was a bit short of time. I DID give a reason. i was the firsts one to point out how wer had been defensive and a bit scummy. in my last post, i believe i did aswell. See, this is what i mean. You point fingers, but keep a low profile by not voting me! now THAT is scummy.


Since when is voting somebody scummy?

You hammered too quickly and no you did not have a reason

i DID HAVE A REASON!!!! i was the first to suggest scum, and laid out my reasons then.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT MY SCUMMY BEHAVIOR IS?
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby naxus on Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:56 pm

While personally i dont think vodean is scum and is just overreacting like colton did when a few votes were put on him, he's still freaking out pretty well.

About his claim, I think its total BS.We lynched a Peasant day one and NK another one.Theres only what 12ish people in this game, so by claiming VT your almost assured a night kill against yourself as if you are a VT and they NK you then there would be only 1, or 2 or maybe even none left of the VT.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby gregwolf121 on Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:04 pm

hey guys sorry for not posting sooner been busy with school, so, correct me if im wrong but so far we have vodean who is somewhere around L-2 who is panicking the more votes are placed on him, but i think i agree with spiesr and vodean just needs to calm down. now do we have any other leads to go on to finding the scum.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby spiesr on Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:42 pm

naxus wrote:About his claim, I think its total BS.We lynched a Peasant day one and NK another one.Theres only what 12ish people in this game, so by claiming VT your almost assured a night kill against yourself as if you are a VT and they NK you then there would be only 1, or 2 or maybe even none left of the VT.
Why would either side purposefully target a vanilla peasant for a night kill? The scum would rather kill a member of the revolution and the revolution would rather kill a scum member.
captainwalrus wrote:Vote count.
Vodean 4 - Rainbow Eater, Colton, lhcguy, spiser
UTA 1 - Safari
Rainbow Eater 1 - ???
Did anyone else notice this bit here? Looks like a secret voter/double voter/politician. Is anyone missing their vote?
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby lhcguy on Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:57 pm

spiesr wrote:
naxus wrote:About his claim, I think its total BS.We lynched a Peasant day one and NK another one.Theres only what 12ish people in this game, so by claiming VT your almost assured a night kill against yourself as if you are a VT and they NK you then there would be only 1, or 2 or maybe even none left of the VT.
Why would either side purposefully target a vanilla peasant for a night kill? The scum would rather kill a member of the revolution and the revolution would rather kill a scum member.
captainwalrus wrote:Vote count.
Vodean 4 - Rainbow Eater, Colton, lhcguy, spiser
UTA 1 - Safari
Rainbow Eater 1 - ???
Did anyone else notice this bit here? Looks like a secret voter/double voter/politician. Is anyone missing their vote?


Uhm, no haven't noticed it. Very strange.. but why would a secret voter voter for Rainbow? If the secret voter is evil, he would have waited and placed the last vote on Voden (If vodean is not evil himself). If ??? is good, he might be the seer and point us towards Rainbow. But.. rather strange thing either way.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby Rainbow Eater on Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:48 pm

lhcguy wrote:
spiesr wrote:
naxus wrote:About his claim, I think its total BS.We lynched a Peasant day one and NK another one.Theres only what 12ish people in this game, so by claiming VT your almost assured a night kill against yourself as if you are a VT and they NK you then there would be only 1, or 2 or maybe even none left of the VT.
Why would either side purposefully target a vanilla peasant for a night kill? The scum would rather kill a member of the revolution and the revolution would rather kill a scum member.
captainwalrus wrote:Vote count.
Vodean 4 - Rainbow Eater, Colton, lhcguy, spiser
UTA 1 - Safari
Rainbow Eater 1 - ???
Did anyone else notice this bit here? Looks like a secret voter/double voter/politician. Is anyone missing their vote?


Uhm, no haven't noticed it. Very strange.. but why would a secret voter voter for Rainbow? If the secret voter is evil, he would have waited and placed the last vote on Voden (If vodean is not evil himself). If ??? is good, he might be the seer and point us towards Rainbow. But.. rather strange thing either way.



someone has two votes. that is why it is a ?? and not a name. if there was a vote stealer, the name would appear but the person would not have cast the vote.

I am guessing that Vodean is not who he claims he is.
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby colton24 on Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:53 pm

I saw. Hmmmm
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Re: Cuban Revolution mafia. day 2

Postby Rainbow Eater on Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:18 pm

There is three factions besides the peasants. why was only one person killed? I know he was targeted by two factions, but why no action by the third? or maybe there was and someone did something about it?
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