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Postby boogiesadda on Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:22 pm

btownmeggy wrote:
boogiesadda wrote:marriage is between a man and a woman


Why?


(Proverbs 5:18 ) Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

(Colossians 3:19) Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.

(Genesis 2:24)-Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

That is why

The sanctity of marriage is of utmost importance I am not talking about legal protection that is why I said Civil Unions are fine give them all the same protections but do not call it a marriage
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Postby boogiesadda on Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:24 pm

unriggable wrote:What's ACLU?


American Civil Liberties Union it is a an organization set up to protect individual rights and liberties
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Postby vtmarik on Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:26 pm

boogiesadda wrote:
btownmeggy wrote:
boogiesadda wrote:marriage is between a man and a woman


Why?


(Proverbs 5:18 ) Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

(Colossians 3:19) Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.

(Genesis 2:24)-Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

That is why

The sanctity of marriage is of utmost importance I am not talking about legal protection that is why I said Civil Unions are fine give them all the same protections but do not call it a marriage


Unfortunately, that is a wholly Christian religious argument. That is no basis for a legal precedent. I'm sure there were pro-slavery folks in the South circa 1830-1860 using Exodus as a basis for allowing slavery.

And if you're worried about the sanctity of marriage, where's the outrage over the ability of court judges to preside over marriage ceremonies?
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Postby btownmeggy on Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:45 pm

boogiesadda wrote:
btownmeggy wrote:
boogiesadda wrote:marriage is between a man and a woman


Why?


(Proverbs 5:18 ) Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

(Colossians 3:19) Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.

(Genesis 2:24)-Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

That is why

The sanctity of marriage is of utmost importance I am not talking about legal protection that is why I said Civil Unions are fine give them all the same protections but do not call it a marriage


Okay, that's what I figured you'd say, because that's the only argument that makes "sense". If someone else is pro-civil unions yet anti-marriage for homosexuals and has a different reason, I'd love to hear about it. I'm interested.
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Postby Guiscard on Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:47 pm

boogiesadda wrote:(Proverbs 5:18 ) Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

(Colossians 3:19) Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.

(Genesis 2:24)-Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

That is why

The sanctity of marriage is of utmost importance I am not talking about legal protection that is why I said Civil Unions are fine give them all the same protections but do not call it a marriage


If you are anti-Homosexual marriage becuase of the Bible, why aren't you also anti-homosexuality? Thats a sin too isn't it? Biblical passages that condemn a man sleeping with another man...

Pick and choose at all?
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Postby boogiesadda on Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:53 pm

vtmarik wrote:
boogiesadda wrote:
btownmeggy wrote:
boogiesadda wrote:marriage is between a man and a woman


Why?


(Proverbs 5:18 ) Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

(Colossians 3:19) Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.

(Genesis 2:24)-Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

That is why

The sanctity of marriage is of utmost importance I am not talking about legal protection that is why I said Civil Unions are fine give them all the same protections but do not call it a marriage


Unfortunately, that is a wholly Christian religious argument. That is no basis for a legal precedent. I'm sure there were pro-slavery folks in the South circa 1830-1860 using Exodus as a basis for allowing slavery.

And if you're worried about the sanctity of marriage, where's the outrage over the ability of court judges to preside over marriage ceremonies?


if you read my original post you would have read that i could go on and on . Sorry I didn't cover every possible view I have. just the basics, I will try to please you better next time :roll:
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Postby boogiesadda on Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:57 pm

Guiscard wrote:
boogiesadda wrote:(Proverbs 5:18 ) Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

(Colossians 3:19) Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.

(Genesis 2:24)-Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

That is why

The sanctity of marriage is of utmost importance I am not talking about legal protection that is why I said Civil Unions are fine give them all the same protections but do not call it a marriage


If you are anti-Homosexual marriage becuase of the Bible, why aren't you also anti-homosexuality? Thats a sin too isn't it? Biblical passages that condemn a man sleeping with another man...

Pick and choose at all?


read other forums at all? did you read the original post? no probably not I stated that my views are all across the board they are MY views after all aren't they?

and show me where I said Homosexual marriage is a sin? oh yeah you cant :roll:
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Postby Guiscard on Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:00 pm

You didn't say it was a sin... but you did cite the Bible as being the reason you don't think it is right. It just seems hypocritical to be OK with homosexuality, which is very wrong if you take the Bible literally, but not OK with homosexual marriage because you're taking the Bible literally.

Fine that they're all accross the board, just seems a little strange thats all.
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Postby unriggable on Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:13 pm

boogiesadda wrote:
btownmeggy wrote:
boogiesadda wrote:marriage is between a man and a woman


Why?


(Proverbs 5:18 ) Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

(Colossians 3:19) Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.

(Genesis 2:24)-Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

That is why

The sanctity of marriage is of utmost importance I am not talking about legal protection that is why I said Civil Unions are fine give them all the same protections but do not call it a marriage


You don't use the Bible to prove itself. If that was allowed dianetics would be true also.
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Postby boogiesadda on Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:33 pm

unriggable wrote:
boogiesadda wrote:
btownmeggy wrote:
boogiesadda wrote:marriage is between a man and a woman


Why?


(Proverbs 5:18 ) Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

(Colossians 3:19) Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.

(Genesis 2:24)-Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

That is why

The sanctity of marriage is of utmost importance I am not talking about legal protection that is why I said Civil Unions are fine give them all the same protections but do not call it a marriage


You don't use the Bible to prove itself. If that was allowed dianetics would be true also.


what am i trying to prove? pay attention!!! this a thread about your views i never said that this is the proof of why gay marriage is not ok
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Postby jay_a2j on Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:53 pm

vtmarik wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Anti ACLU


Now why would any American be against an organization that is designed to preserve the US Constitution?



You have got to be kidding. They are against all that is American. Its a liberal front group. They defend the enemies of the US.
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Postby vtmarik on Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:58 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
vtmarik wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Anti ACLU


Now why would any American be against an organization that is designed to preserve the US Constitution?



You have got to be kidding. They are against all that is American. Its a liberal front group. They defend the enemies of the US.


That's conservative, invective rhetoric and you know it.

The ACLU exists to ensure that all people's maintain their freedoms as per the Constitution. Most cases where Christians are discriminated against based on their religious iconography, etc. don't go to trial. Not because the ACLU isn't interested, but because Christians don't sue. If every Christian who was the victim of a discriminatory action contacted the ACLU and sued, then you'd get equal time.

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Postby jay_a2j on Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:58 pm

Why does every thread have to bring up the Bible debate? (he he)

Christians are (mostly) against gay marriage and homosexuality. The two subjects coincide (I can't believe this needs an explanation).


Just like murder and abortion. :wink:
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Postby vtmarik on Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:58 pm

jay_a2j wrote:Why does every thread have to bring up the Bible debate? (he he)

Christians are (mostly) against gay marriage and homosexuality. The two subjects coincide (I can't believe this needs an explanation).


Just like murder and abortion. :wink:


Or taxes and stealing! :D
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Postby DIRESTRAITS on Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:03 pm

Heres my list

I don't care about homosexuality.
I am anti abortion
I am pro Separation of Church and State, but not to the extent it is now
I am anti-War
I am pro-Immigration.
I am anti-Illegal Immigration. (Illegal Immigration helps drug traffickers get across our borders, as wel as terrorists)
I am pro-Whatever wage the market can handle.
I am anti-All Social Programs.
I am pro-Whatever the market demands.
I am anti-giving my money to people who did not earn my money, including schools.
I am anti-Politicians
I am pro-Whatever the market can handle.
In regards to GMO, I am pro whatever the market can handle
I am anti-Corporatist.
I am anti-Taxation.
I am pro-gun ownership.

Pretty much I agree with Jesse, except I am a little more to the right socially
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Postby jay_a2j on Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:05 pm

vtmarik wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Why does every thread have to bring up the Bible debate? (he he)

Christians are (mostly) against gay marriage and homosexuality. The two subjects coincide (I can't believe this needs an explanation).


Just like murder and abortion. :wink:


Or taxes and stealing! :D




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Postby got tonkaed on Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:06 pm

hopefully you understand that someone could imply via that quote modification that you assume stealing is done for God


which im sure you dont, but still.
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Postby jay_a2j on Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:10 pm

got tonkaed wrote:hopefully you understand that someone could imply via that quote modification that you assume stealing is done for God


which im sure you dont, but still.



Hopefully they have a better understanding of that scripture.... WE are to pay our taxes...but tithe to God. Because Peter asked Jesus if he should pay his taxes.


Republicans = lower taxes
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Postby vtmarik on Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:10 pm

jay_a2j wrote:"Give to (Congress) Cesar what is Cesar's. But give to God what is God's"


So, Congress is the opposite of God?

All the more reason to scrap it. :wink:
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Postby boogiesadda on Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:11 pm

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Postby jay_a2j on Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:12 pm

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Postby got tonkaed on Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:14 pm

jay i understand the meaning of the scripture


it was just your use of the modification right after a comparsion of taxing and stealing was a bit suspect thats all.
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Postby unriggable on Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:21 pm

jay_a2j wrote:Christians are (mostly) against gay marriage and homosexuality. The two subjects coincide (I can't believe this needs an explanation).


Oh, you mean like the homosexual Christians who get attacked by Christian right-wing douschebags? Christianity is such a diverse belief you shou;dn't represent it all under one umbrella.
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Postby unriggable on Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:23 pm

jay_a2j wrote:Republicans = lower taxes


I understand why, but seriously, most of the money goes to the military, if we have low taxes we'll have no infrastructure and we'll have a shit community.
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Postby got tonkaed on Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:25 pm

the amount of budget that goes to the american military by comparsion to other developed nations is simply a stunning statistic.


Depending on your affiliation the money would certainly go to different places, but can you imagine what would be done if so much of the budget didnt go to the military
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