Why is Relgion Bashing continuing?

[The1exile]

Jay, Jamie, and Caleb the Cruel feel obligated to 'share the holy word of Jesus', and some atheists here are smart enough to retaliate with facts.

I have yet to see a smart atheist arguement that holds any water at all.

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Look there (earlier link didn't work, gah).

[Senfive]

Personally I think reasoned debate about religion is not the same as "religion-bashing".

Agreed.

So this thread saying that the Christian God is an asshole is not offensive?

Okay now he modified it by adding why he thinks he is an asshole as before it was just that God is an asshole but if that doesn't ago against the guidelines why not scrap them altogether?

This guy is trying to provoke Christians not challenge them for a debate. He doesn't need to use that word. He could just say why I don't believe in Christianity and that would be fine with me, but no the great man needs to call God an asshole.

Why don't mods abide to the guidlines?

The point i am trying to make and yet no mods are closing these threads done.

[hecter]

Personally I think reasoned debate about religion is not the same as "religion-bashing".

Agreed.

So this thread saying that the Christian God is an asshole is not offensive?

Okay now he modified it by adding why he thinks he is an asshole as before it was just that God is an asshole but if that doesn't ago against the guidelines why not scrap them altogether?

This guy is trying to provoke Christians not challenge them for a debate. He doesn't need to use that word. He could just say why I don't believe in Christianity and that would be fine with me, but no the great man needs to call God an asshole.

Why don't mods abide to the guidlines?

The point i am trying to make and yet no mods are closing these threads done.

The thread in question's title was actually changed by wicked. The reason it wasn't done earlier was because she didn't see it.

[The1exile]

The point i am trying to make and yet no mods are closing these threads done.

Just because you disagreed with my interpretation doesn't mean others do (illustrated earlier).

[Senfive]

If people were bashing Jews or Muslims you wouldn't say a word

I'm not fully sure who you're talking about there, but if it's directed to wicked, she does care about bashing Muslims, she locked a thread debating about Muhammad being a homosexual.

my comment was directed at the creator of this thread

WoW one thread out of many and just because Jamie actually reserches and people don't like the truth it is Locked. Wow lets not offend muslims, but its ok to offend the christians, in these forums with all the constant prevoking.

[hecter]

If people were bashing Jews or Muslims you wouldn't say a word

I'm not fully sure who you're talking about there, but if it's directed to wicked, she does care about bashing Muslims, she locked a thread debating about Muhammad being a homosexual.

my comment was directed at the creator of this thread

WoW one thread out of many and just because Jamie actually reserches and people don't like the truth it is Locked. Wow lets not offend muslims, but its ok to offend the christians, in these forums with all the constant prevoking.

Have you not read my replies. wicked is changing these threads. But she isn't going to close them just because you disagree with the views expressed.

[b.k. barunt]

II Timothy 3:12 says: Yea and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. It's supposed to be a part of your discipline, so quit whining about it.

[Senfive]

II Timothy 3:12 says: Yea and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. It's supposed to be a part of your discipline, so quit whining about it.

I could honestly care less about the persecution. I don't care for the unfair moding allowing threads to be open even after the forum rules are broken regaurdless of which religion is being presecuted.

[Backglass]

I have yet to see a smart atheist arguement that holds any water at all.

I have yet to see ANY religious post that is anything other than myth & folklore.

I for one am up for banning all religious posting...pro or con. But you can't half it halfway.

When the wacko cultists quit preaching, I will stop refuting.

[Senfive]

I have yet to see a smart atheist arguement that holds any water at all.

I have yet to see ANY religious post that is anything other than myth & folklore.

I for one am up for banning all religious posting...pro or con. But you can't half it halfway.

When the wacko cultists quit preaching, I will stop refuting.

I totally agree with you on this. Lets ban all religous posts. They only fuel hatered and cause Way, Way more headaches then anything else.

[hecter]

If you don't like relgious posts, then don't click on them. It's not that hard. Why should we have our rights taken away because you don't like something that you can very easily avoid.

[Jesse, Bad Boy]

Jay, Jamie, and Caleb the Cruel feel obligated to 'share the holy word of Jesus', and some atheists here are smart enough to retaliate with facts.

I have yet to see a smart atheist arguement that holds any water at all.

You're either a.) clearly retarded, b.) lacking in an educated understanding of history, science, and reason, or c.) a case of both.

Some people may say that is a bit over the top, but honestly, I am sick of people belly aching and bullshitting because they can't have their way and flail out willy nilly in an unjustified manner.

You know why? The second all religious threads are banned, some zealot is going to start bitching about "the suppression of religion", and "why can't I discuss religion".

If we call into question the validity of your arguments, it's up to you to prove it. If I ask for you to explain how you can possibly argue that Jesus existed despite a lack of evidence, you have three choices: Choose not to argue my points, argue my points like a rational human being, or agree that my points logically outweigh yours. If I ask you to prove how on earth Creation could even be conceived as possible, and give counter arguments, you have three choices: Choose not to argue, argue my points like a rational human being, or agree that my points logically outweigh yours.

That is the goal of debate.

Moreover, if you could, how do you propose that we rationally quantify bashing and debate? What methods would you propose that would create a clear distinction between the two? Using purely logical means and rigorously justifying each step in your argument, try and do it. I'm letting you define "debate" and "bashing" here, but make sure you don't abuse the privilege and define them tautologically. If you introduce any new terms, define them explicitly and explain exactly what you mean by them. Remember that logical fallacies (I'm looking at you, naturalistic fallacy!) and opinion are not allowed. You have to show us how to rationally distinguish between the two.

[b.k. barunt]

We seem to have a lot of ban-happy people on this site. Live your own life and stop pushing your views on others. You're supposed to spread the gospel, not chase people away from it. Senfive maybe you could do like the catholics and start your own inquisition or crusade - hey you could do a jihad map!

[Lord Canti]

Question: Why is religous bashing continuing?

Answer: (1) People love to be right and (2) people love to spark a reaction out of other people. Reason one is attributed mostly to the radical christians (Jamie) of this site and 2 chracterizes most radical athiests of this site (hector), though each group have each of these tendancies. Quite frankly, I cant stand either of them.

The Jamie-type will post numerous pro-christian threads, denying any debate on the subject, damning all opponents to hell, sometimes posting half truthes of their faith when backed into a corner. These guys annoy me because it makes all people of faith, including me, look like lunitics.

The hector-type will do anything to spark a response to their threads, then claim that those who would be offended should not reply. Truth is, they want replys, a lot of them, angry christians they can paint as fanatics, giving their own beliefs credence. In all honosty, they put up great evidence for their claims. At the end of the day, though it doesn't come down to facts... because facts change. We learn new things about the world and history every day that couldn't have been believed possible 50 years ago. So no...christians have no proof to offer that God exists..or Jesus walked this Earth....nor does anyone have proof that intelligent life exists on other planets or that evolution is more than a theory.

The religous bashing will never end...its sad that no one can except beliefs that arn't their own...but thats the way it is.