Should reefer be legalized?

[s.xkitten]

technically, incest is legal, as long as both of the people are of age...they just can't get married

Err...no its very much illegal to have any kind of sexual relationship with you're family members.

In the US, its only in some states, last time i checked...and its not in mine...just like beastility isn't illegal here either...

[Colaalone]

"no recorded fatalities"..... you must be on crack. Pot slows reflexes and has been the cause of many a traffic fatality. Not to mention all the crime committed under the influence of pot. No telling how many deaths have occurred there. To say smoking pot has never caused death is complete denial.

If crime is commited while smoking weed, then the crime was going to be commited regardless. Weed doesn't make you violent or impulsive; if anything you're more prone to just chill. While high you still know who you are, what you are doing, and your limits. I've driven high few times... safely, passed many cops on the interstate. I feel its completely irresponsible to do so, i do only if i HAVE to.

When examining the relationship between marijuana use and violent crime, the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse concluded, "Rather than inducing violent or aggressive behavior through its purported effects of lowering inhibitions, weakening impulse control and heightening aggressive tendencies, marihuana was usually found to inhibit the expression of aggressive impulses by pacifying the user, interfering with muscular coordination, reducing psychomotor activities and generally producing states of drowsiness lethargy, timidity and passivity."

Source: Shafer, Raymond P., et al, Marihuana: A Signal of Misunderstanding, Ch. III, (Washington DC: National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse, 1972).

[unriggable]

I don't see why there should be a law against common sense...I mean we may as well have a law saying it is illegal to fall down wells...

Think about it. Laws were put in place to avoid antisocial and or reckless behavior. What does that have to do with weed? I mean, really?

[flashleg8]

why not have it legal ,they use it to help people deal with cancer and ms for the pain and there hasn't been any real studys that it really does any harm to the body.there would be less crime if they legalized it at least in montreal that's for sure. beer and hard liquer are more damaging for your body then weed is.I mean you never hear of smoking and driving causing an accident it's don't drink and drive

I mean you never hear of smoking and driving causing an accident it's don't drink and drive

That’s rubbish, any substance which causes intoxication will impair your ability to drive (even some prescription drugs and over-the -counter medicines). After using hash your reaction times are slowed and your ability to make rational judgments on things like hazard perception is decreased.

And your other point that there are no studies that prove it does harm to your body is also wrong. There have been a lot of studies that have liked heavy cannabis use to mental illnesses. And if you've ever smoked a lot of dope before, you'll know that you can get strong feelings of paranoia etc so I'm pretty much with this.

The effect of marijuana on the body is dependant on the type of dope used (anyone tried super-skunk) and its method of preparation/injection (that’s why theres different classifications for cannabis in the UK).
The person who said it is better for you than tobacco is also off, as (at least in the UK) it is mainly mixed with tobacco when smoked and no filter is used - the rates of mouth and throat cancers are increased between habitual cannabis users and ordinary smokers.

I'm not against drug use per say (I've dabbled a fair bit in the past myself ) but people have to be aware of the risks. But after saying that I say all drugs should be legalised as it should be an individual’s choice.

[Stopper]

technically, incest is legal, as long as both of the people are of age...they just can't get married

Err...no its very much illegal to have any kind of sexual relationship with you're family members.

In the US, its only in some states, last time i checked...and its not in mine...just like beastility isn't illegal here either...

Dunno about incest in the US, but it seems to be true about the bestiality. I have still never forgotten about this story about an American man who died getting buggered by a horse. He videotaped it, and everything. I hope I'm not detracting too much from this worthy discussion on doin' what we all know to be right - getting the Man off our backs when we're havin' fun.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/read ... Num=104621

[flashleg8]

technically, incest is legal, as long as both of the people are of age...they just can't get married

Err...no its very much illegal to have any kind of sexual relationship with you're family members.

In the US, its only in some states, last time i checked...and its not in mine...just like beastility isn't illegal here either...

Dunno about incest in the US, but it seems to be true about the bestiality. I have still never forgotten about this story about a man who died getting buggered by a horse. He taped it, and everything.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/read ... Num=104621

On Jerry Springer an American guy married a horse - if Jerry said it, it must be true!

[Colaalone]

PREACH IT

[Stopper]

MARRYING a horse? Now, that is just disgusting, and quite unbelievable.

[The1exile]

Well, Caesar had a horse as his Proconsul, didn't he?

[cowshrptrn]

Well, Caesar had a horse as his Proconsul, didn't he?

never doubt the genius of Mr Ed, he plays a mean game of chess

[flashleg8]

MARRYING a horse? Now, that is just disgusting, and quite unbelievable.

Quote: A Jerry Springer show entitled, "I Married a Horse" was canceled in the US., because it was considered too racy by the network, and British television snatched the topic away, running their own breakthrough special about bestiality, featuring the exact same guests -- a guy from Missouri, and his 22-year-old mare named Pixel.

[Jamie]

I'd be fine with legal pot

The more important thing for me is I think the drinking age should be 14, at least for beer

21 was not chosen randomly as the legal drinking age. 21 is the age most humans are when the brain stops growing, and begins aging. 21 is when the brain can for the most part safely handle alcohol. Ever notice how underage drunks always act much worse than drunks 21 and older. College psychology101.

[DIRESTRAITS]

I'd be fine with legal pot

The more important thing for me is I think the drinking age should be 14, at least for beer

21 was not chosen randomly as the legal drinking age. 21 is the age most humans are when the brain stops growing, and begins aging. 21 is when the brain can for the most part safely handle alcohol. Ever notice how underage drunks always act much worse than drunks 21 and older. College psychology101.

Making the drinking age 14 would make it so people were responsible drinkers by the time they start driving, as well as it would eliminate the years of anticipation of Alchohol that makes guys go crazy when they turn 21

[flashleg8]

I'd be fine with legal pot

The more important thing for me is I think the drinking age should be 14, at least for beer

21 was not chosen randomly as the legal drinking age. 21 is the age most humans are when the brain stops growing, and begins aging. 21 is when the brain can for the most part safely handle alcohol. Ever notice how underage drunks always act much worse than drunks 21 and older. College psychology101.

Yeah, that’s a good point Jamie physiologically but psychologically I prefer the Austrian system (maybe else where in Europe too) of beer, cider and wine allowed at 16 and spirits at 18 - that way people have a chance to get used to drinking sensibly before moving onto stronger drinks. It’s all a bit irrelevant really ‘cause here (in the UK) you can pretty much drink whenever you want as there’s always someone that will get you a carry out - what’s it like in the US? Do people seriously wait till they're 21?
I think the French and Southern European culture works best though - in those places the kids commonly drink wine with their meals so its not got such a mystic and coming of age thing about it so they're much less inclined to abuse it.

Although I do like a good binge drink myself of course - being Scottish!

[passions]

I,ve seen more people die from drinking then i have from people smoking weed. (Never)people that smoke weed can still do everything they need to do on a daily basis all it does is calm you down. as for drinking you drink 4-5-6- beers and i'll tell you what you won't be able to do much.I've drank and smoked and i would choose weed any day. when you drink it changes a person weed not so much.

As for incest that is legal and wrong I mean there are enough people in this world to fall for. You don't need to go after your family members gross
incest is just as wrong as murder,rape,molelastation(not sure if that's spelled right)

[flashleg8]

people that smoke weed can still do everything they need to do on a daily basis all it does is calm you down. as for drinking you drink 4-5-6- beers and i'll tell you what you won't be able to do much.I've drank and smoked and i would choose weed any day. when you drink it changes a person weed not so much.

Depends how much and what you're smoking - do a couple of buckets (don't know how you call it in the US) and I defy you to do anything you would normally do on a daily basis!

Edit: I see its called a "Gravity bong" on wikipedia.

[Jamie]

I'd be fine with legal pot

The more important thing for me is I think the drinking age should be 14, at least for beer

21 was not chosen randomly as the legal drinking age. 21 is the age most humans are when the brain stops growing, and begins aging. 21 is when the brain can for the most part safely handle alcohol. Ever notice how underage drunks always act much worse than drunks 21 and older. College psychology101.

Yeah, that’s a good point Jamie physiologically but psychologically I prefer the Austrian system (maybe else where in Europe too) of beer, cider and wine allowed at 16 and spirits at 18 - that way people have a chance to get used to drinking sensibly before moving onto stronger drinks. It’s all a bit irrelevant really ‘cause here (in the UK) you can pretty much drink whenever you want as there’s always someone that will get you a carry out - what’s it like in the US? Do people seriously wait till they're 21?
I think the French and Southern European culture works best though - in those places the kids commonly drink wine with their meals so its not got such a mystic and coming of age thing about it so they're much less inclined to abuse it.

Although I do like a good binge drink myself of course - being Scottish!

Most people in the US have alcohol before 21, and some start drinking alot before than, but I would say the majority of people in the US wait until 21, if for nothing else the severe penalties handed out to stores selling to minors. Buying alcohol for a minor here is also considered a felony here, though quite a few people still do it. Those that get caught are made examples of. For those that said drinking should be allowed at 14, if that happened, alot of youths would die of alcohol poisoning, Drunken Driving deaths would skyrocket, crime would increase, and if my 14 year old was drinking, I'd beat their ass

[flashleg8]

and if my 14 year old was drinking, I'd beat their ass

You're right enough I suppose - it's a different perspective if you're a parent.