Watchmen Mafia_Godfather found! Town Wins!

[pmchugh]

bout time.

[Mr. Squirrel]

Dr. Manhattan sat in the small jail cell awaiting the man he had discovered. Big Figure’s shady past and run-ins with Rorschach mad him a prime target for the murder. Although Big Figure was safely locked behind bars, his underworld influence extended far beyond the concrete walls.

As the midget returned to his cell, he did not notice Dr. Manhattan in the corner. The hero had altered the pigment of his cells to blend in with the grayish concrete behind him. After the guards relocked the door, Dr. Manhattan revealed himself and grabbed the little man by his throat.

“To whom do you report?” the Dr. asked emotionlessly. Although Big Figure was a powerful man, Dr. Manhattan knew that even the mob boss couldn’t kill Rorschach. He had tried already many times in the past. There had to be someone above him.

“You already know him well enough,” was the gangster’s only answer. Dr. Manhattan tried questioning him further, but to no avail. Eventually, Dr. Manhattan left the cramped cell, the underworld leader rested in a pool of blood on the floor.

Ga7 (Big Figure – Mafia Lyncher) has been lynched!

Night 3 begins! Send in your actions now!

[pmchugh]

intresting he was actaully partially telling the truth.

[gregwolf121]

a half truth is still a lie

[Crazyirishman]

Nice job you guys, that means there is one scum left.
BTW what happened to MP?

[gregwolf121]

no idea he hasn't posted in a while

[Mr. Squirrel]

no idea he hasn't posted in a while

Mad Pineapples is being replaced by Ace1217.

[Crazyirishman]

no idea he hasn't posted in a while

Mad Pineapples is being replaced by Ace1217.

Kill Ace.....
1217
or both if that is alright with you .

[Mr. Squirrel]

Edgar William Jacobi sat in his small 1 room apartment in the slums of NY. He had seen the recent string of murders in the news, identifying them as all of his old enemies. In another lifetime, Jacobi was known as the great Moloch the Mystic, a criminal mastermind and talented illusionist. Nowadays though, he just wanted to live out the rest of his life (or whatever is left of it) in peace.

A loud noise outside awakened him from his stupor. He finished off his gin and walked to the window to investigate. It seems like there was a large crowd, a mob, encircling his apartment building. As soon as they saw his face in the window, a roar let out and they started pouring into the rundown apartment complex.

Panicking, Moloch tried to secure his front door from the oncoming riot, but it was only a matter of time until the mob busted through and beat his frail body to death.


AceArtemis (Moloch the Mystic - Suspicious Survivor) has been killed!


Ozymandias watched the mob storm the apartment. Even though Moloch was old and weak, the information he had could lead to an end to Ozymandias' plans. With him gone, Ozymandias was almost ready for his scheme to come into fruition. Only a few more loose ends needed to be tied up...


Day 4 Begins!

With 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

[pmchugh]

Ok now we probably have one scum left out of 4. And i think crazy has been proven to be town, and i think my revival should show me to be town as well as my catching of ga7.

That leaves ace (MP) or gregwolf, atm i suspect ace much more heavily as gregwolf talked a lot of sense yesterday. Although no one do anything hasty as we are at LYLO.

[Crazyirishman]

My action was blocked last night from what I can tell from the night scene. And I know that PMC is town so it's is either Greg or Ace1217. I think it may be 1217 since he took over over for Pinapples who sounded somewhat scummy, but I have nothing to go off of.

[gregwolf121]

well im inclined to believe pmc when he says crazy is town cause we know that pmc is town so then it looks like we need to hear from ace

[gregwolf121]

and quick question what is a suspicious survivor

[pmchugh]

and quick question what is a suspicious survivor

A survivor is someone who wins as lnog as they survive to the end of the game. "Suspicious" i dont know exactly but it suggests he had other motives or abilities.

[gregwolf121]

okay so going to the thread i found this

so a fun night and by fun i mean eventful
what i'm wondering is what all you peoples thoughts are as to who the bad dudes are.

How was it fun? I know you said you mean eventful, but why use the word 'fun' at all?

Yea seems like a poor choice of words...

for a fun night i didn't mean for everyone i meant for the two lovers and no i'm not mafia it probably was a bad choice of words but hey we all make mistakes
and colton i'm new to online mafia but even i know enough not to talk when dead

Whatever you say now, we can't tell if you're trying to cover up because you are, in fact, Mafia, or if you're being honest.. Problem is, there's now a lot of suspicion on you due to your poor choice of words.

FOS Thez and MP just for trying to hang greg on a stupid reason. Mafia buddies?

and this

Ok we need to be careful now, I reckon there are 3 scum in this game and we kileld one so that leaves two left out of 6 players. Which means we are basically at LYLO. Now we can't mass claim so that's out of the question which means some good old fashioned rereading will need to be done.

I agree. 3 scum sounds reasonable for an 11 player game, so we probably have 2 left. I did some re-reading, so hopefully we can get a discussion going.

I looked through the thread and found this: (page 5, if you want to go back and re-read)

so a fun night and by fun i mean eventful
what i'm wondering is what all you peoples thoughts are as to who the bad dudes are.

How was it fun? I know you said you mean eventful, but why use the word 'fun' at all?

for a fun night i didn't mean for everyone i meant for the two lovers and no i'm not mafia it probably was a bad choice of words but hey we all make mistakes
and colton i'm new to online mafia but even i know enough not to talk when dead

Whatever you say now, we can't tell if you're trying to cover up because you are, in fact, Mafia, or if you're being honest.. Problem is, there's now a lot of suspicion on you due to your poor choice of words.

I like how MP states that there is a "lot of suspicion" when MP was the only one suspecting gregwolf at the time (besides colton who was dead), and no votes or FoS were cast on gregwolf during Day 2. It seems to me like MP was trying to cast suspicion without doing the voting himself, in order to avoid attracting attention. I find this quite scummy. Vote: Mad Pineapples

thez is scum so coyboyz could be right about mafia buddies
and i also found this interesting bit, and yes crazy i think your town mainly because im relying on pmc but heres what i found

I investigated Ga7 and got scum, but he hasn't done anything scummy yet so I'm going to hold my vote sinse that could be misleading like PMC's role

No, The first night I killed colton because I thought he was scum, but he was just stupid for not paying attention to the fact that PMC was at L-1, which was an irrational decision on my part. I am a jack of all trades, and if you look at what the scene said for what happened to colton it corresponds to my claim.

Ok I seriously doubt squirrel gave you JOAT with an insane investigation but a normal kill. Therefore unvote vote ga7, I investigated him for a reason and I think this pretty much garuntees he is scum or squirrel is very inventive with his roles.

My investigation was pretty much dumb luck which is why I'm withholding my vote. All it consisted of was I looked at who posted last at the time my night action was sent in, and I investigated them sinse I hadn't drawn any conclusions.

now what i'm wondering is why crazy did you investigate ga7 find scum and then not vote for him

My action was blocked last night from what I can tell from the night scene. And I know that PMC is town so it's is either Greg or Ace1217. I think it may be 1217 since he took over over for Pinapples who sounded somewhat scummy, but I have nothing to go off of.

im wondering who blocked you
i know i didn't
pmc is a naive cop
and i don't think a suspicous survivor can role block
and based on the night kill the killer didn't
im thinking either ace1217 is the killer because crazy couldn't have killed aceartemis if his role was blocked
or crazy killed aceartemis but that leaves ace1217 unaccounted for

[Crazyirishman]

Greg the reason I withheld my vote was because I don't like to place it unless I am pretty sure they are scum. With PMC saying that his was wrong I 2nd guessed my investigation. I tried to kill 1217 because of how Pinapples was acting but was roleblocked. So I have come up with two different scenerio. 1) You or ace are two seperate roles 1 scum, 1 roleblock. or 2) the the mafia roleblocker is the only one left so they blocked me and sent the kill. I am still with holding my vote because if the wrong one is lynched as in scenerio 2 the mafia will wim by blocking me and killing either me or PMC. And squirrel said I am not allowed to protect myself to get to the next day and vote the only person left, if that makes any sense. any other ideas would be helpful.

[Squirrels Hat]

Confirm. The squirrel has asked me to replace ace1217/mad pineapples since neither of them seem to be posting.

I've only read through the past five or so pages so if any of my info is wrong, please correct me.

This is the situation as I see it so far:
Pmc is a revived cop, so we know he is innocent.
Crazyscottishguy has claimed to have killed someone in the past and no one counterclaimed him so he is innocent.
This leaves Greg and I as the possible scum. Seeing as how everyone is pointing fingers at me (due to MAd Pineapples' deadbeating) I will go ahead and claim now. I am a 1-shot reviver. According to my pm, Mad Pineapples already used this night 1 on you pmc. Personally, I see this as a retarded move as you are a naive cop. You don't really contribute much. But what is done is done and now we have a chance to catch the last scum anyway.
vote greg
He is probably a mafia roleblocker and blocked crazy last night.

[pmchugh]

Confirm. The squirrel has asked me to replace ace1217/mad pineapples since neither of them seem to be posting.

I've only read through the past five or so pages so if any of my info is wrong, please correct me.

This is the situation as I see it so far:
Pmc is a revived cop, so we know he is innocent.
Crazyscottishguy has claimed to have killed someone in the past and no one counterclaimed him so he is innocent.
This leaves Greg and I as the possible scum. Seeing as how everyone is pointing fingers at me (due to MAd Pineapples' deadbeating) I will go ahead and claim now. I am a 1-shot reviver. According to my pm, Mad Pineapples already used this night 1 on you pmc. Personally, I see this as a retarded move as you are a naive cop. You don't really contribute much. But what is done is done and now we have a chance to catch the last scum anyway.
vote greg
He is probably a mafia roleblocker and blocked crazy last night.

On the contrary I am a very useful player regardless of what my role is

Reviver seems a solid claim and that fro me is enough to back down. And i actually think that greg may be scum or else crazy went crazy when he outed ga7 his scumbuddy.

Greg used the fact no one roleblocked crazy to build a case against him, this would be a safe bet if he was a scum roleblocker as no one else would own up to it.

[Crazyirishman]

Squirrels role sounds reasonable though a wrinkle that I thought of before we throw greg under the bus was that AceArtimis was a suspicious survivor and one of his powers was the revive, but either of the two could be correct.

[pmchugh]

Squirrels role sounds reasonable though a wrinkle that I thought of before we throw greg under the bus was that AceArtimis was a suspicious survivor and one of his powers was the revive, but either of the two could be correct.

He can revive? hmm intresting.

[gregwolf121]

well sorry squirrels hat but i have to tell the truth and that is that i am the reviver yes it is a one shot deal but not to be used on any one at night i could overturn the lynch made that day but i could only do so once, hence the one shot revive. and the reason i chose to overturn pmc lynch is a three fold one
1 pmc is town and i beleived that it would be in the towns best interest to have a member of the town that everyone knew
2 i also chose to revive pmc because he was town and i didn't know if there would be another chance to revive a town member before i was killed
3 pmc role was that of a naive cop, i didn't know what naive was but i thought hes a cop, he can investigate and that is a useful role. now that i know what a naive cop is it isn't as useful

and pmc i looked through the thread i pointed out posts that looked questionable. and as i said in the last post i trusted your beleiving crazy was town, but i wasn't sure myself so i pointed out some posts that i found questionable

and since squirrels hat is claiming to be what i am that makes him scum so vote squirrels hat

[gregwolf121]

oh and squirrels hat in answer to you saying im a mafia roleblocker if i roleblocked crazy who killed the suspicious survivor?
pmc can't kill
if your the revivor you don't have a night action anymore
i doubt aceartemis killed himself
if im the mafia i roled blocked crazy
and if im the mafia crazy was role blocked by me so couldn't kill

so then who killed aceartemis the suspicious survivorif im mafia

the answer
pmc didn't
crazy was roleblocked
i did nothing my night action already used
you killed aceartemis
and aceartemis role blocked crazy

[pmchugh]

oh and squirrels hat in answer to you saying im a mafia roleblocker if i roleblocked crazy who killed the suspicious survivor?
pmc can't kill
if your the revivor you don't have a night action anymore
i doubt aceartemis killed himself
if im the mafia i roled blocked crazy
and if im the mafia crazy was role blocked by me so couldn't kill

so then who killed aceartemis the suspicious survivorif im mafia

the answer
pmc didn't
crazy was roleblocked
i did nothing my night action already used
you killed aceartemis
and aceartemis role blocked crazy

Flaw in your logic is that a mafia roleblocker would enhirit the kill from the mafia leader hence being able to kil land block.

However you seem genuine and I believed you to be town over SH, the only reason i changed my mind was due to the claim but I doubt that you would have counter claimed. I believe that SH is the alst remaining scum member but i await his response before voting.

[Squirrels Hat]

However you seem genuine and I believed you to be town over SH, the only reason i changed my mind was due to the claim but I doubt that you would have counter claimed. I believe that SH is the alst remaining scum member but i await his response before voting.

Well, I don't know how good of a defense I can give when I've only been in this game less than 24 hours and no actions made in the past were my own. Besides, this situation seems more like a conflict of my word vs. his word. Not exactly an easy one to justify, but I'll try. After all, I'm gonna have to if we are to win this game.

well sorry squirrels hat but i have to tell the truth and that is that i am the reviver yes it is a one shot deal but not to be used on any one at night i could overturn the lynch made that day but i could only do so once, hence the one shot revive.

This seems a little contradictory to to me. There is a big difference between overturning a lynch and reviving someone, and the night scene clearly says that pmc was revived. Besides, overturning a lynch normally has to be done in the time between when the lynch is announced and the lynch scene is posted (at least that is how it always was when I used to play with my old friends). Letting you see who you are saving kind of negates the reason for being to overturn the lynch. You are twisting your words together.

1 pmc is town and i beleived that it would be in the towns best interest to have a member of the town that everyone knew
2 i also chose to revive pmc because he was town and i didn't know if there would be another chance to revive a town member before i was killed
3 pmc role was that of a naive cop, i didn't know what naive was but i thought hes a cop, he can investigate and that is a useful role. now that i know what a naive cop is it isn't as useful

These reasons for revival also seem like they were made up on the spot.
1) Just reviving someone because they are town isn't very useful. A smart reviver would wait until a more useful townie was killed and revive them. Since you claim your ability is 1-shot, I think you would have put more thought into it than just "well, he's town so I'll waste my revive right away!"
2) This reason also seems a little flimsy. Being paranoid about your death was always a scumtell in the past games I've played. A townie hardly ever thinks he will be the target for anyone while scum are always on guard, anticipating someone to target them.
3) And finally, claiming innocence is desperate at best. I'm sure if you had asked squirrel or even googled "mafia roles" you could have figured out what a naive cop meant.

On the contrary I am a very useful player regardless of what my role is

My guess is that this is why Mad Pineapples revived you. He would know you are a strong, veteran player with a good eye for scumtells. I don't know if greg would have this kind of info or not, but it surely doesn't show it in his reasons for reviving you.

oh and squirrels hat in answer to you saying im a mafia roleblocker if i roleblocked crazy who killed the suspicious survivor?

As pmc pointed out, a mafia roleblocker would be able to do both things at once. Now you are simply trying to make up facts to disguise your guilt.

And finally, my last point is that Aceartemis was killed last night, despite the fact that both MP and Ace1217 were deadbeating. If they weren't posting, then they probably weren't sending in night actions either. Only an active player could have killed aceartemis and the only person not accounted for is gregwolf here. I think this reason alone should be enough to prove my innocence.

[Mr. Squirrel]

Vote Count!

Hat - 1 Greg
Greg - 1 Hat

With 4 alive it takes three to lynch.