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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby captainwalrus on Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:09 am

spiesr wrote:Is there anyone who find to be particularly suspicious?

Sam_Levi for lurking and PMC for trying so hard to get thez lynched.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby pmchugh on Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:40 am

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spiesr wrote:Is there anyone who find to be particularly suspicious?

Sam_Levi for lurking and PMC for trying so hard to get thez lynched.


Just because I am arguing with him doesn't mean I am trying to get him lynched.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby pancakemix on Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:37 pm

spiesr wrote:So are you saying we should lynch the walrus then?


I'm just saying what I think about what he said. You can make of it what you will based on my inferences.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby sam_levi_11 on Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:02 pm

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spiesr wrote:Is there anyone who find to be particularly suspicious?

Sam_Levi for lurking and PMC for trying so hard to get thez lynched.

Im here, and more than most.

Also i think this whole thing was rather pointless, pmc and thezz seemed to see things that werent there the further on they went. Neither seem particularly scummy, although i did find you use of the term "Who is winning" to be rather odd, its phrased, imo, almost like you know what their allignment is..
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby pmchugh on Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:18 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:
spiesr wrote:Is there anyone who find to be particularly suspicious?

Sam_Levi for lurking and PMC for trying so hard to get thez lynched.

Im here, and more than most.

Also i think this whole thing was rather pointless, pmc and thezz seemed to see things that werent there the further on they went. Neither seem particularly scummy, although i did find you use of the term "Who is winning" to be rather odd, its phrased, imo, almost like you know what their allignment is..


I actually think my argument was fairly solid but I've worked out that in mafia if you argue for long enough no one cares any more. It's stupid cause you cant get anyone lynched thats active hence why I rarely get lynched.

Anyway, so if niether me nor thez is scummy, then who is?
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby sam_levi_11 on Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:31 pm

Not sure, rereading Thezz does seem slightly more scummy, but again its hardly screaming at me, mainly because you both argued for so long it became a mess.
More concerning is that out of all live people, only 6 of us are posting - Squirrel, spiesr, me, pmc, walrus and thezz.
Rereading, considering 4 pages or so are based around you and thezz, it shows how little we have to go on.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby pancakemix on Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:15 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:Not sure, rereading Thezz does seem slightly more scummy, but again its hardly screaming at me, mainly because you both argued for so long it became a mess.
More concerning is that out of all live people, only 6 of us are posting - Squirrel, spiesr, me, pmc, walrus and thezz.
Rereading, considering 4 pages or so are based around you and thezz, it shows how little we have to go on.


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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby spiesr on Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:15 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:Rereading, considering 4 pages or so are based around you and thezz, it shows how little we have to go on.
We have four pages of pmc and thezzz casting suspicion on each other, that has to be good for something right?
pmchugh wrote:It's stupid cause you cant get anyone lynched thats active hence why I rarely get lynched.
If you are that determined about it we could surely lynch you here to disprove that if you wanted.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby captainwalrus on Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:14 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:
spiesr wrote:Is there anyone who find to be particularly suspicious?

Sam_Levi for lurking and PMC for trying so hard to get thez lynched.

Im here, and more than most.

Also i think this whole thing was rather pointless, pmc and thezz seemed to see things that werent there the further on they went. Neither seem particularly scummy, although i did find you use of the term "Who is winning" to be rather odd, its phrased, imo, almost like you know what their allignment is..

I didn't bring up who is winning, spiser did.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:43 am

Yes sorry i meant spiesr. Also can we get a prod on Cena?
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby Thezzaruz on Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:42 pm

pmchugh wrote:I actually think my argument was fairly solid


And obviously I disagree. ;) But I think our argument has run it's course though.

Could we get a VC and a prod of the inactives??
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby spiesr on Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:56 pm

Well, I just looked back and decided that the best course of action is to get this game moving by placing a few votes on someone and forcing them to defend themselves. PMC's points have convinced me that thezzz is as good of choice as any. So vote THEZZZ.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby captainwalrus on Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:12 pm

Vote spiser. PMC's arguments were not convincing, you are just trying to follow your scum buddy into a bandwagon.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby sam_levi_11 on Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:41 pm

I agree with spiesr, vote thezz to get the game moving.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:39 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:I agree with spiesr, vote thezz to get the game moving.

The page before this you were complaining about spiesr's "who is winning" attitude, and now you decide to join him in choosing sides? What's with the inconsistency?
spiesr wrote:Well, I just looked back and decided that the best course of action is to get this game moving by placing a few votes on someone and forcing them to defend themselves. PMC's points have convinced me that thezzz is as good of choice as any. So vote THEZZZ.

"As good of choice as any"? We don't have a deadline right now. So we aren't pressed for a lynch. I find you pressing one very scummy. vote spiesr
captainwalrus wrote:Vote spiser. PMC's arguments were not convincing, you are just trying to follow your scum buddy into a bandwagon.

Agreed.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby Thezzaruz on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:35 pm

Interesting development... :-k



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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby captainwalrus on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:47 pm

Thezzaruz wrote:Interesting development... :-k


The accuser has become the accused, and rightly so. WE need prods so we have more than 7 people or so.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby pmchugh on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:55 pm

Mr. Squirrel wrote:
sam_levi_11 wrote:I agree with spiesr, vote thezz to get the game moving.

The page before this you were complaining about spiesr's "who is winning" attitude, and now you decide to join him in choosing sides? What's with the inconsistency?
spiesr wrote:Well, I just looked back and decided that the best course of action is to get this game moving by placing a few votes on someone and forcing them to defend themselves. PMC's points have convinced me that thezzz is as good of choice as any. So vote THEZZZ.

"As good of choice as any"? We don't have a deadline right now. So we aren't pressed for a lynch. I find you pressing one very scummy. vote spiesr
captainwalrus wrote:Vote spiser. PMC's arguments were not convincing, you are just trying to follow your scum buddy into a bandwagon.

Agreed.


My arguments were good! Its obvious, he blames falko for no reason and gets him lynched. If ever i seen a scum tell thats one. If only i believed in tells.

Speisr is getting done for being active, which isnt fair. And dont make me get out my anti scum buddy argument.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby spiesr on Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:25 pm

pmchugh wrote:And dont make me get out my anti scum buddy argument.
You might as well...
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby captainwalrus on Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:51 pm

spiesr wrote:
pmchugh wrote:And dont make me get out my anti scum buddy argument.
You might as well...

Right, that way spiser won't be exposed as your scum buddy. Better get that defence out fast!
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby pmchugh on Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:28 am

captainwalrus wrote:
spiesr wrote:
pmchugh wrote:And dont make me get out my anti scum buddy argument.
You might as well...

Right, that way spiser won't be exposed as your scum buddy. Better get that defence out fast!


Has anyone ever seen me defend my scum buddy in a game where I am scum? No, but you have all (those who know me anyway) seen me defend people when a bad accusation is put at them, speisr was active and trying to get the game going, IMO he didn't do anything scummy and since I am town I have nothing to fear from saying this. However as a mafia member I would never risk it if speisr actually was my scum buddy, because if one of is turns up scum then you lot will go after the other.

Of course this is WIFOM but how stupid would I be to do that? Its far too risky a move and scum are always more careful.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby pancakemix on Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:19 am

pmchugh wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:
spiesr wrote:
pmchugh wrote:And dont make me get out my anti scum buddy argument.
You might as well...

Right, that way spiser won't be exposed as your scum buddy. Better get that defence out fast!


Has anyone ever seen me defend my scum buddy in a game where I am scum? No, but you have all (those who know me anyway) seen me defend people when a bad accusation is put at them, speisr was active and trying to get the game going, IMO he didn't do anything scummy and since I am town I have nothing to fear from saying this. However as a mafia member I would never risk it if speisr actually was my scum buddy, because if one of is turns up scum then you lot will go after the other.

Of course this is WIFOM but how stupid would I be to do that? Its far too risky a move and scum are always more careful.


Well, now you're WIFOMing your WIFOM. That's not exactly unscummy, now is it?

This sudden turn on to voting thez is very odd. However, I'm more inclined to think that CW is scummier than both of you. My case:

pancakemix wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:I think the mafia is winning. I don't think that either of them are actually scum, and they are just distracting themselves from trying to figure out who is scum.
Thez is not that scummy.


So a discussion actually gets going and you call it distracting ourselves? Somehow, I think you don't want discussion.

captainwalrus wrote:Also, does the mafia ever get a busdriver?


I'm not sure what to make of this. It's kind of random, and it's definitely not game-related. Unless, of course, you were trying to throw suspicion from yourself.


These posts still hold legitimate concerns for me, as does his response:

captainwalrus wrote:I just think that PMC was the only person who really thought thez was scummy and to me his argument seemed very weak, so I suggested that perhaps we should look at other things besides who PMC thinks is scummy.

And the busdriver thing I was just curious, and it didn't warrant like 4 replies.


Nothing in his earlier posts indicates any sort of ill will towards either side of the argument, but now it's decidedly against PMC. And even if he were just curious about the bus driver thing, why on earth bring it up?

captainwalrus wrote:Vote spiser. PMC's arguments were not convincing, you are just trying to follow your scum buddy into a bandwagon.


Now we go from "I think he was wrong about his argument and shouldn't have been doing so much to push it" to not just an outright accusation, but accusation of two at once.

captainwalrus wrote:
Thezzaruz wrote:Interesting development... :-k


The accuser has become the accused, and rightly so. WE need prods so we have more than 7 people or so.


What does this even mean? (That's a serious question, CW. I can't decipher this)

captainwalrus wrote:
spiesr wrote:
pmchugh wrote:And dont make me get out my anti scum buddy argument.
You might as well...

Right, that way spiser won't be exposed as your scum buddy. Better get that defence out fast!


And again we have some very harsh accusations. Now who's pushing?

Maybe the cases on either side between thez and PMC weren't so good. Personally, I thought PMC had a stronger argument, but neither side warranted a vote for the other. I've outlined here how CW goes from an opinion of neutrality and pessimism to "OMIGOD WE SHOULD LYNCH PMC AND ALL WHO SIDE WITH HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!" in the span of two pages. If anything, he's probably the best choice for a lynch today, but I'd like to here what he has to say to this.
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby Thezzaruz on Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:30 pm

pmchugh wrote:Its obvious, he blames falko for no reason and gets him lynched.


It's interesting that you keep pushing that line when I've so clearly (and repeatedly) shown it to be untrue.




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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby Hologram on Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:39 pm

captainwalrus wrote:
Thezzaruz wrote:Interesting development... :-k


The accuser has become the accused, and rightly so. WE need prods so we have more than 7 people or so.

We only have 8 players, and I've prodded cena....
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Re: Counter-Terrorism Mafia Day 2 STROKEM BIN LADEN KILLED!

Postby Hologram on Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:41 pm

Vote Count:

cena-rules (1) – Mr. Squirrel
Thezzaruz (3) – pmchugh, spiesr, sam_levi_11
pmchugh (1) – Thezzaruz
spiesr (1) - captainwalrus

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