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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby captainwalrus on Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:53 pm

unVote
Vote the fuzzy pengui
to test who is voteless.
What is the point of a voteless townie anyways?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby strokem1257 on Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:46 pm

I dont remember if I voted or not for CW but just to be sure I UNVOTE Vote CW since he is next in line...

I may not be online for a day or so. I am at my aunt's doing corn and beef all day and don't know if I will have a chance to get on and post..
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby e_i_pi on Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:57 pm

Aside from drawing attention away from CW suddenly getting votes, can anyone please explain why we are doing this? I don't see a point to it at all. Also, I find MeDeFe's quote very suspicious:

Well, if we find the voteless townie that's one person we can be fairly certain we shouldn't lynch.


What does a voteless townie have to do with lynching or no lyching? I don't see why we should have to find a voteless townie, unless of course the vampires want to know who they shouldn't be bothered killing during night phase.

I'm retaining my vote for CW. I believe he is scum, I'm not getting suckered into this paper-thin ploy by cena and MeDeFe to draw attention away from CW. If anyone wants to know my voting, they can go back through the thread to find out.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby cena-rules on Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:11 am

Crazyirishman wrote:
cena-rules wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
cena-rules wrote:
e_i_pi wrote:I'm not voting for Falko. I didn't vote for him the first time because it would push him into lynch, and I'm not voting this time. I won't say that Falko is 100% guaranteed townie, but if you can't find other people that are more suspicious cena, and you think revisiting an attempted lynch on someone who claims to be a vig, then I'm afraid I'll have to:

FoS cena-rules

it is a simple matter of clearing up whether he was telling the truth or not

Then let's use my method, everyone votes for the person below them on the list on page 1 (if pmc has updated it, that is), if one person has 0 votes against them we'll know who is voteless. (i.e. the person above the person with 0 votes against)

If the voteless person voted for Falko "yesterday" we can repeat the experiment of giving him 8 votes and seeing if he lives, otherwise we can let it be. Since we don't know how pmc calculates votes against Falko (if Falko is telling the truth) it could be that Falko would be lynched if people keep adding votes until pmc counts 8 against him.

problem there is not everyone is active, but its worth a shot

unvote vote masterchief


I replaced masterchief a while back.


well PMC should have kept the list updated
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby MeDeFe on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:07 am

e_i_pi wrote:Aside from drawing attention away from CW suddenly getting votes, can anyone please explain why we are doing this? I don't see a point to it at all. Also, I find MeDeFe's quote very suspicious:

Well, if we find the voteless townie that's one person we can be fairly certain we shouldn't lynch.

What does a voteless townie have to do with lynching or no lyching? I don't see why we should have to find a voteless townie, unless of course the vampires want to know who they shouldn't be bothered killing during night phase.

I'm retaining my vote for CW. I believe he is scum, I'm not getting suckered into this paper-thin ploy by cena and MeDeFe to draw attention away from CW. If anyone wants to know my voting, they can go back through the thread to find out.

If it's a voteless townie, as the more experienced players say is usually the case, we shouldn't lynch him. For every person who's most probably or even verifiably a townie, the list of people who are possibly scum gets shorter.

Even if this voteless person is scum we'll know he's voteless (though that is getting very hypothetical). In either case we can go back and see whether Falko had 7 votes from 8 people against him because he's the mayor and needs one extra to be lynched, or because the voteless person voted for him. If it's the former we know he's telling the truth about being pro-town. And again the list of suspects is shortened.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby God Emperor Q on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:12 am

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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Falkomagno on Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:21 pm

that's a good idea to figure it out...the thing it's about the poeple in that BW, I don't think that everyone else has to do it.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby captainwalrus on Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:29 pm

Why would there be a voteless townie? It seems as if there were a voteless townie it would be really pointless. UNLESS it went along with a night role like investigation, or bulletproof or something. I will unvote since I think it would be better if no one figured out who the voteless townie was, since the mafia could just target them.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby MeDeFe on Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:34 pm

captainwalrus wrote:Why would there be a voteless townie? It seems as if there were a voteless townie it would be really pointless. UNLESS it went along with a night role like investigation, or bulletproof or something. I will unvote since I think it would be better if no one figured out who the voteless townie was, since the mafia could just target them.

The mafia could do that anyway, couldn't they? And if we (as is probable) have a protecting role or two chances are they wouldn't manage to kill them if they did. Now... who claimed bulletproof bodyguard again?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby cena-rules on Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:43 pm

MeDeFe wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:Why would there be a voteless townie? It seems as if there were a voteless townie it would be really pointless. UNLESS it went along with a night role like investigation, or bulletproof or something. I will unvote since I think it would be better if no one figured out who the voteless townie was, since the mafia could just target them.

The mafia could do that anyway, couldn't they? And if we (as is probable) have a protecting role or two chances are they wouldn't manage to kill them if they did. Now... who claimed bulletproof bodyguard again?


the problem is, a voteless townie doesnt add to the town so there would be no point the mafia targeting him
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby captainwalrus on Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:56 pm

My point was I doubt that there would be somebody that is only a voteles townie. Most likey their votless ness is balanced out by a power role.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:15 pm

cena-rules wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:Why would there be a voteless townie? It seems as if there were a voteless townie it would be really pointless. UNLESS it went along with a night role like investigation, or bulletproof or something. I will unvote since I think it would be better if no one figured out who the voteless townie was, since the mafia could just target them.

The mafia could do that anyway, couldn't they? And if we (as is probable) have a protecting role or two chances are they wouldn't manage to kill them if they did. Now... who claimed bulletproof bodyguard again?


the problem is, a voteless townie doesnt add to the town so there would be no point the mafia targeting him

Cena's right. Although the voteless townie would also have a power role of some sort, the mafia would keep him alive only because it would be a waste of a NK to kill him. He can't vote against them.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby cowboyz on Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:32 pm

captainwalrus wrote:Why would there be a voteless townie? It seems as if there were a voteless townie it would be really pointless. UNLESS it went along with a night role like investigation, or bulletproof or something. I will unvote since I think it would be better if no one figured out who the voteless townie was, since the mafia could just target them.



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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby The Fuzzy Pengui on Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:46 am

captainwalrus wrote:unVote
Vote the fuzzy pengui
to test who is voteless.
What is the point of a voteless townie anyways?

Vote CW

Your reasoning is pretty odd...what are you going to do, go around 1 by 1 trying to see if people will vote back for you? Seems like a pretty big waste of time to me...
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby strokem1257 on Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:23 am

The Fuzzy Pengui wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:unVote
Vote the fuzzy pengui
to test who is voteless.
What is the point of a voteless townie anyways?

Vote CW

Your reasoning is pretty odd...what are you going to do, go around 1 by 1 trying to see if people will vote back for you? Seems like a pretty big waste of time to me...

I see someone hasn't been paying attention to the whole thread. someone suggested we all vote for the person directly below us to test for the voteless townie... and I am pretty sure that is just what CW was doing.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby captainwalrus on Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:34 am

cowboyz wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:Why would there be a voteless townie? It seems as if there were a voteless townie it would be really pointless. UNLESS it went along with a night role like investigation, or bulletproof or something. I will unvote since I think it would be better if no one figured out who the voteless townie was, since the mafia could just target them.



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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby pmchugh on Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:43 am

Vote Count!

Stroop (1) - naxus
CW (5) - Falko, stroke, e_i_pi, Fuzzy
naxus (1) - cowboyz
e_i_pi (1) - MeDeFe
cowboyz (1) - squirrel
fuzzy (1) - CW
MeDeFe (1) - GEQ

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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby strokem1257 on Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:47 am

pmchugh wrote:Vote Count!

Stroop (1) - naxus
CW (5) - Falko, stroke, e_i_pi, Fuzzy
naxus (1) - cowboyz
e_i_pi (1) - MeDeFe
cowboyz (1) - squirrel
fuzzy (1) - CW
MeDeFe (1) - GEQ

Don't blame me if its wrong, but credit me if it's right! :D

uh PMC... this is what I had for a VC

Stroop (1) - naxus
CW (4) - Falko, stroke, e_i_pi, Fuzzy
Crazy (MC vote from cena) (1) - cena
naxus (1) - cowboyz
e_i_pi (1) - MeDeFe
cowboyz (1) - squirrel
fuzzy (1) - CW
MeDeFe (1) - GEQ

what happened to cena's vote and why does CW have 5 now with 4 voters?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby pmchugh on Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:51 am

The vote count is correct, to my knowledge. I removed cena's vote cause masterchief is no longer playing.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby strokem1257 on Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:56 am

pmchugh wrote:The vote count is correct, to my knowledge. I removed cena's vote cause masterchief is no longer playing.

but there is still the fact that there is 5 votes on CW with only 4 voters... who wants to confess to being a double voter if PMC's VC is correct...
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby cowboyz on Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:49 am

strokem1257 wrote:
pmchugh wrote:The vote count is correct, to my knowledge. I removed cena's vote cause masterchief is no longer playing.

but there is still the fact that there is 5 votes on CW with only 4 voters... who wants to confess to being a double voter if PMC's VC is correct...


Pretty obvious that one of them is a double voter, no need to out them
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby naxus on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:04 pm

So now we need to figure who our double voter is.falko, stroke, e_i_pi, or fuzzy?

pmchugh wrote:Vote Count!

Stroop (1) - naxus
CW (5) - Falko, stroke, e_i_pi, Fuzzy
naxus (1) - cowboyz
e_i_pi (1) - MeDeFe
cowboyz (1) - squirrel
fuzzy (1) - CW
MeDeFe (1) - GEQ

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PMChugh wrote:Vote count!
skittles 1- (stroke)
stroop 1- (mr. squirrel)
cowboyz 1- (naxus)

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.


Heres a vote count from page 1 and it proves its not stroke.

PMChugh wrote:Hopefully Correct Vote count!
suspect- 2 (stroop, captain walrus)
cena 1- (falko)
e_i_pi 1- (cena)
strokem 3- (mr squirrel, fuzzy, SEA)
SEA 1- (cowboyz)

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.


Heres one from page 4 that shows that its not falko.

pmchugh wrote:Deadline 7 days from this post!

Not enough vote gives a no lynch. Prods coming to inactives soon.

Vote Count!
strokem 1- (fuzzy)
walrus 2- (falko, mr squirrel)
falko 1- (suspect)

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.


heres one that from page 9 that proves it's not fuzzy

pmchugh wrote:Deadline may be extened for replacements.

Vote Count!
strokem 1- (cena)
walrus 1- (falko)
falko 1- (suspect)
masterchief 1- (naxus)
mr squirrel 1- (skittles)
no lynch 2- (e_i_pi)

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

SEAsportsfan and masterchief are being replaced

Fixed.


and heres the one from the bottom of page 12 which shows that e_i_pi is our double voter
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:34 pm

Good job naxus.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 2.

Postby Stroop on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:34 pm

A double voter almost guarantees that someone else has no vote at all, so Falko is officially not cleared, IMO.

I want to vote either CW or Falko, but I'm not sure which I think is scummier :-k
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:50 pm

Stroop wrote:A double voter almost guarantees that someone else has no vote at all, so Falko is officially not cleared, IMO.

I want to vote either CW or Falko, but I'm not sure which I think is scummier :-k

Alright, I'll try to use naxus's technique to deduce the no-voter.
Here is Falko's original bandwagon:
pmchugh wrote:ACTUALLY THE OFFICIAL AND PROPER Vote Count!

falko 7 - (suspect, skittles, fircoal, stroop, cowboyz, medefe. squirrel, cena)


With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.


The above is correct to the best of my knowledge.

This vote count clears me, medefe, cowboyz, and suspect (since GEQ replaced him).
pmchugh wrote:Vote Count!

Stroop (1) - naxus
CW (5) - Falko, stroke, e_i_pi, Fuzzy
naxus (1) - cowboyz
e_i_pi (1) - MeDeFe
cowboyz (1) - squirrel
fuzzy (1) - CW
MeDeFe (1) - GEQ

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This one clears ficoal:
pmchugh wrote:Vote Count!
walrus 1- (falko)
falko 3- (suspect, fircoal, cowboyz)

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

Deadline is soon so hurry up peeps.

This one clears skittles:
pmchugh wrote:Vote Count!
walrus 1- (falko)
falko 1- (suspect)
masterchief 1- (naxus)
mr squirrel 1- (skittles)

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

DEADLINE 48 HOURS!!!!!!

This one clears cena:
pmchugh wrote:Deadline may be extened for replacements.

Vote Count!
strokem 1- (cena)
walrus 1- (falko)
falko 1- (suspect)
masterchief 1- (naxus)
mr squirrel 1- (skittles)
no lynch 2- (e_i_pi)

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

SEAsportsfan and masterchief are being replaced

Fixed.

And this one clears stroop:
pmchugh wrote:Vote count!
skittles 2- (stroke, SEA)
stroop 1- (mr. squirrel)
cowboyz 1- (naxus)
suspect- 1 (stroop)
cena 1- (fuzzy)

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

Well, thats all 8 players on the bandwagon. So unless Pmc got one of those votes wrong, we can assume that Falko was telling the truth. If there is a voteless townie, he would have to be someone else who didn't jump on the bandwagon. :-k
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